Is Arum Responsible For Making Mayweather, Dela Hoya and Pacquiao Stars?

how do you spell YES!!!

The question isn't if Arum made them stars. That's his job. The question is why did Dlh and Floyd leave Top Rank if Arum made them stars. It goes both ways. Arum puts them in position, and the fighters do the rest. Maybe I can rephrase the question. Did Arum contribute to those three becoming not just stars but the BIG STARS that they became? The question why they left Arum can be for another thread.

The question isn't if Arum made them stars. That's his job. The question is why did Dlh and Floyd leave Top Rank if Arum made them stars. It goes both ways. Arum puts them in position, and the fighters do the rest. Because they knew they had built their star power up enough to thrive on their own (or in Floyd's case, star power in the future by fighting DLH). They knew they could make more money without Top Rank in the picture, and loyalty went out the window. Make no doubt about it though, Top Rank definitely helped their careers a significant amount.

Remember Arum preserved Mayweathers 0. CASTILLO beat him 115-111. If not for Top Ranks power that 0 would be and 1.Only a loser could think up such a thought, lmao.

The question isn't if Arum made them stars. That's his job. The question is why did Dlh and Floyd leave Top Rank if Arum made them stars. It goes both ways. Arum puts them in position, and the fighters do the rest.

At first I was going to say no, because Oscar De La Hoya and Pacquiao are exciting fighters, and then I saw Floyds name. So yes, Arums responsible for them becoming stars.

Top Rank made DLH a star, Pacquiao and Floyd became stars when they beat DLH. Oscar was actually already a start coming out of the Olympics, coming fromm East LA, he had the look (no homo), and the story about his mother pasing and promising her a Gold Medal. He was labeled the Golden Boy from the beginning. Floyd and Pac were groomed by Top Rank, and were catapulted taking over Oscars spot when he left the sport and the exposure they got fighting him

I will give him credit for Pacquiao 100%, perfect match making by Arum no question help make him what he is today and I give him a lot for Oscar as well...make no mistake, Arum is good at building up boxing stars with prop match ups and then CONVINCING CASUAL FANS THAT HIS FIGHTERS ARE THE BEST Mayweather though became a bigger star...AFTER LEAVING ARUM and creating his MONEY persona and becoming the Villain In Boxing and turning all of the HATE into a lot of $$$

I would say HBO played just as large a role as Bob Arum, in fact they were in the Pacquiao business before Arum was, Oscarwere both Olympic stars Oscar much more so than Floyd but Floyd got the advantage of his Olmpics being the the US. All three had their whole rise covered and made a big deal about by HBO. Arum did play a role also but it is not like he did it on his own~ HBO still have to deal with the promoters, which still have to market their product. Pacquiao was with Murad at the beginning. He was with Shaw for one fight on HBO. Then signed with Top Rank, and it snow balled from there. Obviously the fighters still have to perform and do their parts.

De La Hoya was already a star since the amateurs. Mayweather had the Mayweather name, he was a boxer when he was born. His father and uncles were known, they were in high profile fights against Chavez and Leonard respectively. Pacquiao, wasn't he known before joining Top Rank? His name really blew up after defeating De La Hoya. Before that, I only knew him for losing to Marquez and Morales. I think Top Rank knew how to promote, they were big time compared to others. They were willing to put in the hard work to promote a fighter and willing to spend big money to advertise an event. That was the difference. Like I said if those guys were promoted by someone else like Shaw or DiBella, they may make it as big as a Martinez or a Darchinyan. Those promoters either do not have the money or just not willing to spend. That has always been Arum's contention regarding Martinez, DiBella should spend the money promoting the guy. Here's another question, if Martinez signed with Top Rank instead of re-signing with DiBella, could he had been made into a big star like the other three?

De La Hoya was already a star since the amateurs. Mayweather had the Mayweather name, he was a boxer when he was born. His father and uncles were known, they were in high profile fights against Chavez and Leonard respectively. Pacquiao, wasn't he known before joining Top Rank? His name really blew up after defeating De La Hoya. Before that, I only knew him for losing to Marquez and Morales.

I would say HBO played just as large a role as Bob Arum, in fact they were in the Pacquiao business before Arum was, Oscarwere both Olympic stars Oscar much more so than Floyd but Floyd got the advantage of his Olmpics being the the US. All three had their whole rise covered and made a big deal about by HBO. Arum did play a role also but it is not like he did it on his own~

Arima helped but their talent is the real reason. It's more of these guys talent made Arum a lot of money.

Again it was Arum that got them those fights. Their promotion is also always a big time event. If it was Shaw or DiBella they would have had those fights in some indian casino in some small time place somewhere. I don't think they're capable of the same kind of promotions.[/QUO Arum did not get Floyd the Oscar fight...

Pacman is the 2nd biggest draw in the sport & arum robs him blind. Cotto just had a career payday that is after he left bob. The minute Pacman leaves bob, he'll get the same. Pacman fights bob pockets the lion share. You see I'm not asking about Arum robbing them. The question is, would these three have become as big as they are if Arum did not get involved with their careers? Hypothetically, if Arum and Top Rank did not exist. If it was someone like Shaw or DiBella promoting them. The question is, would they have become as big as they did? What I'm trying to ask is, was there any other promoter that was capable of doing something like that?

There's a lot of hate on Arum. But I've been thinking, that Mayweather and Dela Hoya should be thanking this guy for making them stars. I don't think there's another promoter that have the kind of abilities and resources to take someone like these two and Pacquiao and make them the big stars that they are now. If Mayweather and Dela Hoya were with Gary Shaw or DiBella, do you think they would have made it this big? The same for Pacquiao, he was under Gary Shaw and Murad, but he didn't make it big until he was with Arum. What's your take on this? Top rank brilliantly built floyd and ODH. They were both olympic stars. ODH was a star since the olympic gold with the story about his mom dying and winning the gold for her. Floyd had the robbery of the gold. TR deserves credit for building them. Floyd became a star when he left TR. Manny was a huge name when he was with Murad Muhammad. But TR took him to the next level. SO TR deserves credit for all 3.

I don't pay money to watch Bob glove up. End

I remember Arum had De La Hoya and promos for his fights on massive billboards in Times Square and got Oscar appearances on shows such as Letterman. Guy knows how to promote a superstar. What he's done with Pac in a few short years, now that Pac has more PPV sales than Oscar had at the same age is simply incredible. However he could never promote Floyd to his maximum potential, as he was able to do DLH and Pacquiao. Then again Floyd was playing up alot outside the ring, always conflicting with Arum and never fit the good guy image that DLH and Pac easily did. I wouldn't totally blame Arum for that, they just were not a good fit. For Mayweather to become so massive he had to beat DLH and come up with such an awful arrogant and trash-talking persona, total antithesis to the type Arum was used to, which the then new 24/7 concept helped push out to the world.

Delahoya was a star before he even turned pro. Arum helped all three by getting them fights of course, but to become a star, you have to capture the imagination of the masses. Floyd is a brilliant self promoter and one of the most naturally gifted fighters the sport has ever seen. He can play the villain very well. In fact he can play any role he wants, he is quite complex. Manny is a fireball in the ring, exciting and has an incredible story behind him. The masses eat that stuff up also. With all my rambling above, what I am basically saying is that Arum paved the way for them, but to become "STARS", they had to do that themselves.

Top Rank made DLH a star, Pacquiao and Floyd became stars when they beat DLH. This is the correct answer.