What does Floyd Mayweather need to do to be in the 10 top Greatest of all time?

Point Blank. It will never be enough. People romanticize the past a great deal. Yeah basically this is the correct answer... But if u would ask for my opinion then i would say skill wise he is, but to crack it in the matters of legacy then the Pac fight needs to be made.

What does Floyd Mayweather need to do to be in the 10 top Greatest of all time? A miracle!

no current fighter is gonna finish their career ranked that highly Floyd hasn't done nearly enough and he won't be around long enough to add more there's nothing for him that will boost him that high even if he beat Pac and unified at JMW, he's not reaching top 10 GOAT

not even close. a past prime coked out sweet pea was freaking on murderous prime welterweights like oscar and trinidad while floyd was getting almost KTFO by past prime inactive fighters like shane mosley and getting bloodied by pacquiao leftovers. Sweet Pea>Floyd by a country mile. Just look at the fighters sweet pea faced and compare them to floyd's opponents. IT'S LAUGHABLE the talent gap. I disagree. Pernell lost to De La Hoya and Trinidad and had a draw with Julio Caesar Chavez (although I thought he won hat fight). Pernell might have fought the bigger names but he came up short in many of his biggest fights. By the time he was Floyd's age he was CLEARLY out of his prime while Floyd at 35 is still going strong. Floyd has more wins in more weight classes while defeating more champions.

Ralph Jones had a record of 32 wins 12 loses and 3 draws when he fought Robinson. The official scorecards for that fight were 99 to 94, 98 to 89, and 100 to 88, all in favor of Jones.

They wouldn't have to be "tall, healthy" etc. With today's kind of training, and weighing in 30-36 hours before the fight, they'd be a whole division lower. I mean a 145 lb welterweight of the 1950's could be a 137 lb lightweight, never mind a light-welter. Many of the welter champions were no more than 5'6", or 5'7". For example, Benny Leonard, possibly the best lightweight ever, and definitely a top 3, was only 5'5'. This was average, yet he was able to fight welterweight champions with ease, and had over 200 fights, losing less than a handful...............including his first fight. According to his bio, he didn't officially lose a fight for 22 years.......except when he was DQ against Jack Britton, the welterweight champ, for hitting him wnen he was taking a knee. It was a late rd and had him well beaten. it was boasted that he could go through a whole fight without even having his hair disarranged. And he fought in the toughest era. Britton is famous for the 20 fight series that he had with Ted "Kid" Lewis in which the title went back and forth several times. Kid Lewis was voted unanimously to have been the best British fighter of the 20th century. (just a little history-apologies). Hey, that was his second fight after a nearly 3 year retirement, when he never thought he'd ever fight again. I saw that fight, his timing was way off and he didn't lose by that much. Although he was the middleweight champ when he fought Joey Maxim the Light-heavy champ he went into the ring weighing 156, and came out weighing 146, collapsing after the 13th rd when well ahead. He retired after this, and Jones was his 1st or 2nd fight in his come-back. He was 35 and already on the slide, although he re-won the title again a few times. Read up on the history of that Maxim fight. The ref collapsed from heat exhaustion in the 10th and had to be replaced. I think it was Ruby Goldstein ? Ringside temp was 105 or 110 degrees. Under the lights it was more. Tiger Jones beat a few champions, and fought many more. He was always a tough competitor for anybody, very highly regarded. He was built like Dick Tiger. I Robinson was born May 3rd 1921 and he fought Jones on January 19th 1955 making him 33 years old so I am sorry to be a year off but you are 2 years off yourself. He was 33 years old when he lost to Jones and he never fought Jones again. That's all I said and it's the truth. I never said Jones was not a good fighter, the point was Robinson never rematched him. I'll check to see how they scored that fight. The Jones fight was his 2nd comeback fight. The weights for the Maxim fight were Robinson 157.5 and Maxim 173. I am famillar with the details of the Maxim fight. Robinson was ahead on points when he could not continue after round 13. It was a fine effort by Robinson.

Floyd aint all about legacy, so the top 10 ATg status is out of the question.

not even close. a past prime coked out sweet pea was freaking on murderous prime welterweights like oscar and trinidad while floyd was getting almost KTFO by past prime inactive fighters like shane mosley and getting bloodied by pacquiao leftovers. Sweet Pea>Floyd by a country mile. Just look at the fighters sweet pea faced and compare them to floyd's opponents. IT'S LAUGHABLE the talent gap. yeah, that Pea-Trinidad fight really showed that Pea was better. And it's not Pea's fault that he was doing coke instead of training like Floyd.

wtf is this stupid crap? Floyd has yet to defeat a bona fide hall of famer in their prime yet this question is being asked? He's not even the most decorated/accomplished fighter of his generation let alone top 10 all time. let let floyd beat a prime legit hall of famer first FFS..... ^^^^this Floyd is not even the greatest fighter in one decade...let alone these dummy are talking about him being a top 10 ATG :lol1:.

They wouldn't have to be "tall, healthy" etc. With today's kind of training, and weighing in 30-36 hours before the fight, they'd be a whole division lower. I mean a 145 lb welterweight of the 1950's could be a 137 lb lightweight, never mind a light-welter. Many of the welter champions were no more than 5'6", or 5'7". For example, Benny Leonard, possibly the best lightweight ever, and definitely a top 3, was only 5'5'. This was average, yet he was able to fight welterweight champions with ease, and had over 200 fights, losing less than a handful...............including his first fight. According to his bio, he didn't officially lose a fight for 22 years.......except when he was DQ against Jack Britton, the welterweight champ, for hitting him wnen he was taking a knee. It was a late rd and had him well beaten. it was boasted that he could go through a whole fight without even having his hair disarranged. And he fought in the toughest era. Once again you are correct. Most of the fighters from the same day weigh-in days could fight a division lower today.Hagler probably could have fought at 147 with the 36 hour BS. Duran might have fought at 126.You have guys weighing 20 lbs. more on fight night than they did at the weigh in. Britton is famous for the 20 fight series that he had with Ted "Kid" Lewis in which the title went back and forth several times. Kid Lewis was voted unanimously to have been the best British fighter of the 20th century. (just a little history-apologies).You are right, fighters from the same day weigh in days could compete in a lower divition today.

fight Pacquiao, Canelo, and Martinez. I think those wins would boost his career somewhat.

I think he is alot better than Sweet Pea and I've seen them both fight at least 15 times each. Just my opinion. not even close. a past prime coked out sweet pea was freaking on murderous prime welterweights like oscar and trinidad while floyd was getting almost KTFO by past prime inactive fighters like shane mosley and getting bloodied by pacquiao leftovers. Sweet Pea>Floyd by a country mile. Just look at the fighters sweet pea faced and compare them to floyd's opponents. IT'S LAUGHABLE the talent gap.

ya i was thinking the same thing, Canelo really? (his best win is a 40 year old shot Mosley there for the paycheck). in my opinion, the best looking wins for floyds resume would be 1. pacquiao 2. martinez 3. khan (he might not be great, but he is very popular and many think he will be or is great) i think all of those are winnable fights for floyd but each one of them would be harder for him than any fight he has currently had. and we all know the chances of him fighting these 3 before he retires are crazy low I think a win over Cotto is better than a win over Khan or Martinez. Cotto has a better resume and doesn't get near as much unwarranted hype as Martinez or Khan.

IT IS NOTHING HE CAN DO! His ERA and this current ERA is too WEAK to move up any higher and that is certainly not a knock to him, Mayweather is a great fighter but he was TOO TALENTED AND TOO GOOD FOR HIS ERA and now this Current ERA, this current ERA is just a bunch of OVER HYPED, PROTECTED fighters who are GIVEN STARDOM, they don't earn it! If your a good looking guy and can box just a little...you can become a star in boxing today hahaha :nonono:

Does anybody have Floyd ranked higher than Sweet Pea? There have been oodles of "best middleweight in the world". Every few years one comes along. You are dreaming. Having held several division titles is easy to do these days, with a new division every 4-6 lbs. A fighter can wake up in obe division, and by the time he gets down to the weigh-in he's already in the lower division. Fighters these days possibly spend more time losing weight to artificially be eliglble for a lower division, to get height, weight and reach advantages, than they do actually training. Same day weigh-in would clean out every division except Cruiser and Heavy.Same day weigh-in is the way to go. Weighing in 36 hours before fight time is a terrible idea.

wtf is this stupid crap? Floyd has yet to defeat a bona fide hall of famer in their prime yet this question is being asked? He's not even the most decorated/accomplished fighter of his generation let alone top 10 all time. let let floyd beat a prime legit hall of famer first FFS.....

Does anybody have Floyd ranked higher than Sweet Pea?I think he is alot better than Sweet Pea and I've seen them both fight at least 15 times each. Just my opinion.

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he's right bro you have no clue. Evolution doesnt happen in 50 years thats basic. Not to mention its a fact men have less testosterone now then they did 50 years ago because of sh1tty food. you are ignorant. If you dont call the advancements in nutrition and training in the last 50 years anything but REVOLUTIONARY than it is indeed you who is clueless. No one is talking about guys growing extra muscles or shedding more body hair as a sign of evolution...What is meant is the knowledge of sport and body that is the result of the last few decades. When people ask me to rank someone...I think about it this way....If I was to take Floyd and pin him against historic 147lbers, how many does he loose to? I really do not care about who beat who or who reigned as champ for X amount of years etc etc...

At age 32 Ray Robinson lost every round of a 10 round fight to a journeyman fighter named Ralph Jones and even though he fought for another 15 years he never fought Jones again.Even the young Robinson had 2 draws and numerous split decision wins that were not popular with the fans. He fought some guys he had already KOed 3 or 4 times. He sometimes went over a year without defending his tittle. He would sometimes have 10 to 15 non tittle fights between tittle defenses. Yet the oldtimers have so solidly established him as the #1 pound for pound of all time that anyone that disputes his #1 spot is going to piss off alot of people. Hey, that was his second fight after a nearly 3 year retirement, when he never thought he'd ever fight again. I saw that fight, his timing was way off and he didn't lose by that much. Although he was the middleweight champ when he fought Joey Maxim the Light-heavy champ he went into the ring weighing 156, and came out weighing 146, collapsing after the 13th rd when well ahead. He retired after this, and Jones was his 1st or 2nd fight in his come-back. He was 35 and already on the slide, although he re-won the title again a few times. Read up on the history of that Maxim fight. The ref collapsed from heat exhaustion in the 10th and had to be replaced. I think it was Ruby Goldstein ? Ringside temp was 105 or 110 degrees. Under the lights it was more. Tiger Jones beat a few champions, and fought many more. He was always a tough competitor for anybody, very highly regarded. He was built like Dick Tiger.