Who fought better opponents Jones or hopkins

Jones had the ber earlier opponents, the longer Hopkins fought the better his comp became.

I don't think so. Hopkins possibly fought the better fighters overall but I think Roy Jones is the greater fighter. yeah a lot of people do. I agree Jones at his best is probably better then Hopkins at his. I would love to see that fight. But I think overall Hopkins had the much better career given the endings.

Simon Brown was a good talent and top fighter in his day. In 1998? Not so much. Not at all, actually. That win and Jones' win over Trinidad are about the same. It seems you have an obvious bias here. You leave McCallum of Jones' resume (rightfully so) yet have Simon Brown on Hopkins? :thinking: no i only added brown when the other guy added to McCallum. I agree about brown and trinidad.I didn't have Joppy and them on my original list. only added tem when another poster tried adding vinny Paz ect.. My opinion is that Hopkins fought more names an has a better resume. Is that a bias? Its my opinion.

He easily does. He fought more names and Jones been KTFO like 5 times. Plus Hopkins dominated the gys who ko'd him. How is that not a better resume? I don't think so. Hopkins possibly fought the better fighters overall but I think Roy Jones is the greater fighter.

He wasn't shit at the time he lost to Hopkins. He was lightly regarded until he beat Jones years later. That's his only big win. The Tarver win was a gift. Reggie Johnson was a much more legit win for Jones than Glen for Hopkins. Deal with it.

Hey he was past it but he was a top p4p fighter. He beat terry Norris only and Maurice Blocker. He had his day he was definitely a big name fighter. you think he wasn't? that win was at least as good as jones over trinidad if not better. Simon Brown was a good talent and top fighter in his day. In 1998? Not so much. Not at all, actually. That win and Jones' win over Trinidad are about the same. It seems you have an obvious bias here. You leave McCallum of Jones' resume (rightfully so) yet have Simon Brown on Hopkins? :thinking:

Reggie Johnson>Glen Johnson Gonzales went on to be the linear lhw champ. agree gonzales was solid but not a name by any means Glen Johnson was way better. look at who he beat and the fights he got robbed in. its not even close guy. You must be on that good sh1t.

On what planet is Simon Brown a legitimate win for Hopkins? Hey he was past it but he was a top p4p fighter. He beat terry Norris only and Maurice Blocker. He had his day he was definitely a big name fighter. you think he wasn't? that win was at least as good as jones over trinidad if not better.

Reggie Johnson>Glen Johnson Gonzales went on to be the linear lhw champ.

I don't have any Alt's. And even if I did, would an Alt of mine ever claim that Bernard Hopkins has a better resume than Roy Jones? Absolutely not. He easily does. He fought more names and Jones been KTFO like 5 times. Plus Hopkins dominated the gys who ko'd him. How is that not a better resume?

we have a winner..... . Every one of Marvin Haglers big wins and his big loss were against small light weights welter or jr middles. do u run around crying about it saying he didn't beat anyone?

http://static.boxrec.com/wiki/thumb/0/04/Toney_Vs_Holyfield2.jpg/275px-Toney_Vs_Holyfield2.jpg This is a body builder? http://theboxingtribune.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/james-toney.jpg

This is exactly my point so why are you arguing? Winky and Oscar belong you're crazy? listen to yourself. Oscar had many more fights after Hopkins. Winky was coming off a great fight with Taylor and he's just a great fighter period. Trinidad is borderline for both? how the hell does that make sense? Trinidad was in his prime undefeated against Hopkins. He was nearly 40, 1 fight off a 7 year lay off against Jones. How the hell does Hopkins biggest win not count? Your throwing out no names to Jones record. Joppy Brown and Holmes were legitimate names. so was john jackson. were you follow boxing in the late 80's early 90's? On what planet is Simon Brown a legitimate win for Hopkins?

Come off implying that opinion that anyone who picks Jones likes him better. Why make the thread if you're just going to throw accusations at people who don't agree? Hopkins is a one of a kind fighter. His age doesn't affect how good his opponents are or what level they're at in their career. Oscar retired after that fight. Winky took a long lay off then came back and got schooled by Williams who he would never have lost to in his prime. Hopkins however, is still fighting at an elite level at the age of 47. Toney Vs. Jones was a SMW bout, where Toney was ranked #1. He was also #3 P4P a year earlier fighting at the same weight. http://static.boxrec.com/wiki/thumb/0/04/Toney_Vs_Holyfield2.jpg/275px-Toney_Vs_Holyfield2.jpg This is a body builder? but not as many as you're making out he did. Also it was you that started ruling them out based on what point they were at in their career. If you take that into account, then... Chad Dawson 2x --------------- Hopkins 2x Glen Johnson--------------- James Toney Kelly Pavlik --------------- Antonio Tarver 3x Antonio Tarver --------------- Glen Johnson William Joppy --------------- John Ruiz Felix Trinidad --------------- Montell griffin Simon Brown --------------- Virgil Hill Jermain Taylor 2x --------------- Joe Calzaghe Jean Pascal 2x --------------- Felix Trinidad Roy Jones 2x ----------------- Malinga Joe Calzaghe ----------------- Pazienza Kieth Holmes ----------------- Griffin 2x Antonio Tarver De La Hoya and Winky don't belong. Trinidad is borderline for both I'm adding the last three for Jones because you've gone ahead and added Holmes, Brown and Joppy. This is exactly my point so why are you arguing? Winky and Oscar belong you're crazy? listen to yourself. Oscar had many more fights after Hopkins. Winky was coming off a great fight with Taylor and he's just a great fighter period. Trinidad is borderline for both? how the hell does that make sense? Trinidad was in his prime undefeated against Hopkins. He was nearly 40, 1 fight off a 7 year lay off against Jones. How the hell does Hopkins biggest win not count? Your throwing out no names to Jones record. Joppy Brown and Holmes were legitimate names. so was john jackson. were you follow boxing in the late 80's early 90's?

Hopkins has the better names on his resume but most of them were two weights above their best weight class. This right here! Hopkins made almost ALL his opponents move up in weight. Every big name on Hopkins record moved up a weight class or two. Most of his big names were WELTERWEIGHT fighters. Hopkins has also always been a BIG middleweight, now fighting at light heavy. Jones has the better record by a mile.

Hopkins has the better names on his resume but most of them were two weights above their best weight class. we have a winner.....

are you an alt of iron dan hamza? I don't have any Alt's. And even if I did, would an Alt of mine ever claim that Bernard Hopkins has a better resume than Roy Jones? Absolutely not.

Come off what? I think you need to come off it. Come off implying that opinion that anyone who picks Jones likes him better. Why make the thread if you're just going to throw accusations at people who don't agree? Winky and oscar weren't washed up when you look at the age Hopkins was. Hopkins is a one of a kind fighter. His age doesn't affect how good his opponents are or what level they're at in their career. Oscar retired after that fight. Winky took a long lay off then came back and got schooled by Williams who he would never have lost to in his prime. Hopkins however, is still fighting at an elite level at the age of 47. You want to give it to jones because of Toney. Well Toney was not very good at 175. he lost to griffin and a club fighter. He was great at cruiser and heavy but looking at his build against jirov and holyfeild i have to say he was juicing. how does a fat ass like him ll the sudden look like a body builder? Toney Vs. Jones was a SMW bout, where Toney was ranked #1. He was also #3 P4P a year earlier fighting at the same weight. http://static.boxrec.com/wiki/thumb/0/04/Toney_Vs_Holyfield2.jpg/275px-Toney_Vs_Holyfield2.jpg This is a body builder? Can you admit Hopkins fought more name opponents. If not make a list side by side comparison.. Yeah, he fought more bigger names, but not as many as you're making out he did. Also it was you that started ruling them out based on what point they were at in their career. If you take that into account, then... Chad Dawson 2x --------------- Hopkins 2x Glen Johnson--------------- James Toney Kelly Pavlik --------------- Antonio Tarver 3x Antonio Tarver --------------- Glen Johnson William Joppy --------------- John Ruiz Felix Trinidad --------------- Montell griffin Simon Brown --------------- Virgil Hill Jermain Taylor 2x --------------- Joe Calzaghe Jean Pascal 2x --------------- Felix Trinidad Roy Jones 2x ----------------- Malinga Joe Calzaghe ----------------- Pazienza Kieth Holmes ----------------- Griffin 2x Antonio Tarver De La Hoya and Winky don't belong. Trinidad is borderline for both I'm adding the last three for Jones because you've gone ahead and added Holmes, Brown and Joppy.

Jones is the most skilled but Hopkins has the better resume are you an alt of iron dan hamza?

Jones is the most skilled but Hopkins has the better resume