THE FLURRY: After Saturday, I Feel Confident Manny Beats Floyd
By Blake Hochberger , The Sweet Science, Thu, 10 May 2012
Floyd Mayweather-Miguel Cotto Takeaways: -First off, what an awesome fight! Nice to see Floyd actually be in a real fight. He definitely won, but I had it awfully close. I scored the fight 6-4-2 for Mayweather. If you score the two even rounds (3 and 9) for Cotto, you’re looking at a draw potenti Read Full Story >>>http://www.thesweetscience.com/news/articles/14552-the-flurry-after-saturday-i-feel-confident-manny-beats-floyd
Again your being a keyboard warriror and fantasing FLOYD will be able to do all this amazing stuff when he steps in the ring with Pac.
When Foreman was favourite against Ali, did people have to eloquently explain why Foreman would win with scientific theories?No, Ali barely beat Frasier and Foreman wrecked Frasier thats all the explanation you needed.
Foreman beat Frasier better than Ali and was a wrecking ball end of story, nuff said. Stop fantasing about Floyd can apparently do.
keyboard warrior rofl.....have you ever been in the ring boxing? I have and when they say its the loneliest place in the world its no lie....you dont even believe Pac can beat floyd end thread
that string of floyd-pac / ali-foreman analogies made me legitimately upset that our beloved sport actually has people like this that claim to be "fans" and spread they're triangle theory bullshlt to casual fans and give the sport of boxing a bad name.
you are clearly a fan of ONE fighters and do not understand how boxing works, and by ducking a simple question (HOW would manny beat floyd?) you clearly prove therealpugilist's point that you merely HOPE that manny can beat floyd, just how you hope that everyone he faces does, and cause manny beat the guys that floyd beat in more dominating fashion, that somehow equates that manny would then beat floyd too, because pac beat his leftovers (his drained, old, or coming of a loss leftovers) and somehow you actually believe the bullshlt you post to be true. you sir, are an absolute joke.
you try to make yourself sound smart when you post, but thats only cause there are many on here like you, that are clueless about boxing. oh well...:Flush:
damn couldnt have said it better myself
that string of floyd-pac / ali-foreman analogies made me legitimately upset that our beloved sport actually has people like this that claim to be "fans" and spread they're triangle theory bullshlt to casual fans and give the sport of boxing a bad name.
you are clearly a fan of ONE fighters and do not understand how boxing works, and by ducking a simple question (HOW would manny beat floyd?) you clearly prove therealpugilist's point that you merely HOPE that manny can beat floyd, just how you hope that everyone he faces does, and cause manny beat the guys that floyd beat in more dominating fashion, that somehow equates that manny would then beat floyd too, because pac beat his leftovers (his drained, old, or coming of a loss leftovers) and somehow you actually believe the bullshlt you post to be true. you sir, are an absolute joke.
you try to make yourself sound smart when you post, but thats only cause there are many on here like you, that are clueless about boxing. oh well...:Flush:
Green K for one of the best posts I have ever read on here!!!
Good job!!
Pac will be the best FLoyod has ever shared a ring with. They style match up will be bad for Floyd you could claim easily as well.
Foreman was favourtie against Ali as he destroyed Frasier. You could claim Ali was a bad style match up for Foreman whos footwork resembled the mummy and Ali floated like a butterfly, yet was underdog.
I think people are just a bit deluded when they put their money on floyd. By all means its up to you who you think will win, but the reasons are a bit weak.
Wrong. It doesn't go both ways.
Again your being a keyboard warriror and fantasing FLOYD will be able to do all this amazing stuff when he steps in the ring with Pac.
When Foreman was favourite against Ali, did people have to eloquently explain why Foreman would win with scientific theories?No, Ali barely beat Frasier and Foreman wrecked Frasier thats all the explanation you needed.
Foreman beat Frasier better than Ali and was a wrecking ball end of story, nuff said. Stop fantasing about Floyd can apparently do.
that string of floyd-pac / ali-foreman analogies made me legitimately upset that our beloved sport actually has people like this that claim to be "fans" and spread they're triangle theory bullshlt to casual fans and give the sport of boxing a bad name.
you are clearly a fan of ONE fighters and do not understand how boxing works, and by ducking a simple question (HOW would manny beat floyd?) you clearly prove therealpugilist's point that you merely HOPE that manny can beat floyd, just how you hope that everyone he faces does, and cause manny beat the guys that floyd beat in more dominating fashion, that somehow equates that manny would then beat floyd too, because pac beat his leftovers (his drained, old, or coming of a loss leftovers) and somehow you actually believe the bullshlt you post to be true. you sir, are an absolute joke.
you try to make yourself sound smart when you post, but thats only cause there are many on here like you, that are clueless about boxing. oh well...:Flush:
exactly what I expected...a fan boy that know nothing about boxing , at least he could give a reason why hia guy would win....Mayweather is number one in my p4p list but IMO I would be shocked if he could beat Martinez, Paul Williams, or Lara...im a boxing fan not a fighters fan
Again your being a keyboard warriror and fantasing FLOYD will be able to do all this amazing stuff when he steps in the ring with Pac.
When Foreman was favourite against Ali, did people have to eloquently explain why Foreman would win with scientific theories?No, Ali barely beat Frasier and Foreman wrecked Frasier thats all the explanation you needed.
Foreman beat Frasier better than Ali and was a wrecking ball end of story, nuff said. Stop fantasing about Floyd can apparently do.
exactly what I expected...a fan boy that know nothing about boxing , at least he could give a reason why hia guy would win....he doesnt even believe Manny can beat Floyd
Mayweather is number one in my p4p list but IMO I would be shocked if he could beat Martinez, Paul Williams, or Lara...im a boxing fan not a fighters fan
You say Pac cant do this and cant do that, yet he wins. So Pacs not going to do this and not going to do that against Floyd, because he cant according to you, yet will win, its worked for him so far.
How will Floyd deal with what Pac throws though with his southpaw stance and power in both hands. Pac will nail Floyd with his straight left all night and if that dont land, then his right hooks will im sure. Can Floyd deal with the speed and power and combinations and angles.
you must have reading comprehension problems you were the one that brought upp Ali and Foreman since you are too lazy to read I will copy and past
Ok let me explain...Manny has no jab....doesnt set up his power shots well which make him vulnerable to counters which he is too straight rights and right hooks...Mayweather's best punch....he doesnt defend the jab well, which Mayweather does throws well....
Also Manny isnt very good fighting on the inside or fighting backwards....Mayweather can do more in the ring, he can take the fight anywhere and have success, Manny cant....he is a bit more one dimensional....when he cant cut of the ring or hurt his opponent his doesnt know how to adjust...watch the first Morales fight, the Marquez fights, and he couldnt even cut the ring off on a 39 year old Mosley...Manny fights one way he is a mid range fighter...
.Also Mayweather is physically stronger and has shown in the past that he can up his punch output depending on the fighter in front of him...Mayweather has more options, I go with the more versatile guy
If anything you gotta at least acknowledge Mayweather adjust better on the fly than any fighter mid fight and on the top level its all about adjustments
ok so why and how do you think Manny wins? anything you post other than that Im not even gonna entertain because im so tired of talking in circles with you
whats up with this common stuff? hugh grant is gone lmao
You havent answered how Floyd beats Pac! You just had a dream where Floyd beats Pac and hope it comes true. Floyd has a great defense you say, yet Castillo beat him and anyone better offensively than JMM gives FLoyd troubles, from DLH, to Cotto to SSM who nearly ko'ed Floyd. If SSM nearly kos floyd why cant Pac go one step further?
You say Ali is no floyd, and Pac is no foreman? Ali is better than Floyd, and Pac is better than Foreman. Pacs footwork, stamina, speed combinations is all superior to Foreman with the exception of power.
Morales beat Pac, and primeMorales would beat Floyd as well.
you must have reading comprehension problems you were the one that brought upp Ali and Foreman since you are too lazy to read I will copy and past
Ok let me explain...Manny has no jab....doesnt set up his power shots well which make him vulnerable to counters which he is too straight rights and right hooks...Mayweather's best punch....he doesnt defend the jab well, which Mayweather does throws well....
Also Manny isnt very good fighting on the inside or fighting backwards....Mayweather can do more in the ring, he can take the fight anywhere and have success, Manny cant....he is a bit more one dimensional....when he cant cut of the ring or hurt his opponent his doesnt know how to adjust...watch the first Morales fight, the Marquez fights, and he couldnt even cut the ring off on a 39 year old Mosley...Manny fights one way he is a mid range fighter...
.Also Mayweather is physically stronger and has shown in the past that he can up his punch output depending on the fighter in front of him...Mayweather has more options, I go with the more versatile guy
If anything you gotta at least acknowledge Mayweather adjust better on the fly than any fighter mid fight and on the top level its all about adjustments
ok so why and how do you think Manny wins? anything you post other than that Im not even gonna entertain because im so tired of talking in circles with you
You havent answered how Floyd beats Pac! You just had a dream where Floyd beats Pac and hope it comes true. Floyd has a great defense you say, yet Castillo beat him and anyone better offensively than JMM gives FLoyd troubles, from DLH, to Cotto to SSM who nearly ko'ed Floyd. If SSM nearly kos floyd why cant Pac go one step further?
You say Ali is no floyd, and Pac is no foreman? Ali is better than Floyd, and Pac is better than Foreman. Pacs footwork, stamina, speed combinations is all superior to Foreman with the exception of power.
Morales beat Pac, and primeMorales would beat Floyd as well.
Pac beats Floyd cos common opponents always outperforms Floyds. Foreman was favourite against Ali, so Pac is favourite against Floyd.
But triangle theories dont always come true, even though Pac has outtriangled Floyd on no other than four occasions, from DLH, Hatton, SSM, Cotto.
So even though anyone in their right sense expects Pac to beat Floyd, Floyd could beat Pac as triangle theories dont always work.
Floyd can prove you shouldnt use triangle theories, just like Ali proved it.
You havent answered how Floyd beats Pac! You just had a dream where Floyd beats Pac and hope it comes true. Floyd has a great defense you say, yet Castillo beat him and anyone better offensively than JMM gives FLoyd troubles, from DLH, to Cotto to SSM who nearly ko'ed Floyd. If SSM nearly kos floyd why cant Pac go one step further?
Morales beat Pac, and primeMorales would beat Floyd as well.
can you read...i doubt it...it was about a page ago, you are blind or in denail...lol if you think prime Morales beats Floyd you're on something...when they were at 126 they werent moving up to face em
grow some balls and answer the question dude
you still dont know how manny can beat Floyd...you just hope does....
so again, how do you feel Manny beats Mayweather until you can answer that question, you just a troll cuz honestly i dont think you even believe he can you just hope he does.....Face it
You havent answered how Floyd beats Pac! You just had a dream where Floyd beats Pac and hope it comes true. Floyd has a great defense you say, yet Castillo beat him and anyone better offensively than JMM gives FLoyd troubles, from DLH, to Cotto to SSM who nearly ko'ed Floyd. If SSM nearly kos floyd why cant Pac go one step further?
You say Ali is no floyd, and Pac is no foreman? Ali is better than Floyd, and Pac is better than Foreman. Pacs footwork, stamina, speed combinations is all superior to Foreman with the exception of power.
Morales beat Pac, and primeMorales would beat Floyd as well.
you still dont know how manny can beat Floyd...you just hope does....Manny aint even a big puncher past 140 the only person he dropped at those weights were Cotto
I aint say nothing about no shoulder roll, and when he fights southpaws he doesnt even use it as much, you just sound like an avid fan for one fighter that dont know much about boxing
Labours to victory rofl....people do numbers dont lie Floyd is 43-0...out of those fight he has had 2 close fights, how many has yo boy had...he cant even clearly beat a past prime near 40 year Marquez clearly and most people think he lost...Manny lost to a past prime Morales and has 3 loses and 2 draws
so again, how do you feel Manny beats Mayweather until you can answer that question, you just a troll cuz honestly i dont think you even believe he can you just hope he does.....Face it
Great reply but expect a none answer
You cant compare Foreman and Ali to Pacman and Mayweather. Its simply not feasible. Firstly there heavyweights. Secondly Ali's defence was not as good as Mayweathers. Thirdly Manny is no Foreman! The only guy he has hit of note that has stayed down is Hatton. Dont get me wrong i was a Hatton fan but he was begging to be knocked out.
Manny never beats Floyd. I admit the Manny that beat cotto and Hatton had a chance but he has aged faster than Mayweather. Or simply Mayweather altered his fighting style to accomodate his ageing legs, something Manny hasnt. He is ageing and still trying to be massivly explosive. I believe Bradley might expose some weaknesses in Pacman. I dont believe Bradley will win as his style is similar to Hopkins, he likes to spoil fighters instead of punching clean. If the fight happens then it will be Mayweathers hand raised barring a knockout shot from manny like he did against hatton.
Dont give me that. You describing how pretty a boxer is with his jabs and shoulder rolls etc etc. When Floyd feels the punches of Pacs, he will go into his shell like anyone who fights Floyd.
Doing all that spoiling like Floyd works against limited fighters hes fought, and it is you who HOPE floyd can do it when he faces his stiffest test to date. But when anyone decent faces Floyd, he labours to victory. Castillo, DLH, Cotto, hatton etc etc.
you still dont know how manny can beat Floyd...you just hope does....Manny aint even a big puncher past 140 the only person he dropped at those weights were Cotto
I aint say nothing about no shoulder roll, and when he fights southpaws he doesnt even use it as much, you just sound like an avid fan for one fighter that dont know much about boxing
Labours to victory rofl....people do numbers dont lie Floyd is 43-0...out of those fight he has had 2 close fights, how many has yo boy had...he cant even clearly beat a past prime near 40 year Marquez clearly and most people think he lost...Manny lost to a past prime Morales and has 3 loses and 2 draws
so again, how do you feel Manny beats Mayweather until you can answer that question, you just a troll cuz honestly i dont think you even believe he can you just hope he does.....Face it
what does common opponents have to do with them fighting each other? They are two different fighters and not even going to begin that continuous circle of bs
Ali and Foreman aint got nothing to do with Mayweather and Pac-Man...you cant even explain why you think Manny would beat Floyd or how...you just hope he does...there is a difference....
I think Pacquiao fans stick by their man but dont believe he can win:no:
so I will ask you again, how will Manny deal with Mayweather to beat him?:Flush:
Dont give me that. You describing how pretty a boxer is with his jabs and shoulder rolls etc etc. When Floyd feels the punches of Pacs, he will go into his shell like anyone who fights pac.
Doing all that spoiling like Floyd works against limited fighters hes fought, and it is you who HOPE floyd can do it when he faces his stiffest test to date. But when anyone decent faces Floyd, he labours to victory. Castillo, DLH, Cotto, hatton etc etc.
Floyd can do all these amazing things, yet somehow makes harder work and labours when it comes to common opponents with pac?
Foreman was favourite against Ali, cos when Foreman hit you you fell down as simple as that. Ali still could do amazing things, dance, jab, amazing chin etc.
I think Floyd fans think too much and fantasize is how they come to conclusions.
what does common opponents have to do with them fighting each other? They are two different fighters and not even going to begin that continuous circle of bs
Ali and Foreman aint got nothing to do with Mayweather and Pac-Man...you cant even explain why you think Manny would beat Floyd or how...you just hope he does...there is a difference....
I think Pacquiao fans stick by their man but dont believe he can win:no:
so I will ask you again, how will Manny deal with Mayweather to beat him?:Flush:
Manny keeps his hands down alot Floyd should have a field day.Cotto keep a tight guard and still adjusted by looping the right hand. amazing this guy can throw every punch in the book to perfection.But floyd always has to have constant movment and feinting thats wat JMM did to manny and it confuses him.Foreman Knocked out Frazier easy everyone said he will kill Ali cause Ali struggled with Frazier then Ali Knoked Foreman out triangle theories dont mean ****.but Manny does have trouble with pure boxers.Floyd can also tie manny up easy because he is stronger.Cotto weight maybe was 160 plus vs floyd while floyd was around 150 thats a huge diff the way the fight went.Manny not go try to bully.
Floyd can do all these amazing things, yet somehow makes harder work and labours when it comes to common opponents with pac?
Foreman was favourite against Ali, cos when Foreman hit you you fell down as simple as that. Ali still could do amazing things, dance, jab, amazing chin etc.
I think Floyd fans think too much and fantasize is how they come to conclusions.
You cant compare Foreman and Ali to Pacman and Mayweather. Its simply not feasible. Firstly there heavyweights. Secondly Ali's defence was not as good as Mayweathers. Thirdly Manny is no Foreman! The only guy he has hit of note that has stayed down is Hatton. Dont get me wrong i was a Hatton fan but he was begging to be knocked out.