Can someone explain how Mayweather is past it?

His legs aren't quite as quick as they used to be, that's about it. He's still the best and most talented fighter in the sport.

Its very clear his legs are not as they used to be. And i agree his balance is declining a tad, but its not going to stop him from winning fights. 35 years old. Enough said really. Hand speed is still there though. His legs are and he showed it, he just doesnt use them as much with his new style. I did notice his balance isnt the same as it was though, but nothing detrimental Sure hes not as he was when he was 28. But it's like he was a 10 back then and now a 9.5 - hate the fact some people are putting him in the same category as mosley...

Its very clear his legs are not as they used to be. And i agree his balance is declining a tad, but its not going to stop him from winning fights. 35 years old. Enough said really. Hand speed is still there though.

No one is calling him shot. That's the problem, too many people think past prime means shot. Past prime just means he isn't as good as he was at his absolute best, which is inevitable when talking about a 35 year old fighter. Let's put it this way for you guys: Floyd was not fighting at his best for Cotto. Didn't have to. Floyd was performing at his C+ Game at best. Now you put him in with a trash talker looking to knock his head off, then you'll see Floyd in top surgical form leaving no doubt as to who's the king of the ring. Floyd can turn it on and off at will. Remember that.

I thought he looked great in all of those fights. I think his peak was 06-07. In 09-10 he was passed his peak but still close to prime. I think after the 16th month lay off, he's clearly not the fighter he was in 2006. It's just obvious. A fighter who's been a pro for 16 years and heading toward 36 just simply isn't going to be in his prime. It depends Wladimir is in his prime

My first post here been lurking for years. Cotto was tough for sure but he lost no doubt. I will say that IMO floyd has lost a step maybe. His reaction time is slower and his defense and raw speed has decreased. But with that said he is still the #1 p4p until proven otherwise, if Pac-Man can beat him then he gets the crown. I feel Floyd what he said Cotto was his toughest fight, but i remember Zab Judah gave him a tough fight early too. I just hope they sign the contracts for MAY-PAC, i will be in Vegas at the MGM for that to witness history. Either guy win or lose will go down as the greatest two boxers ever IMO. That's what Money needs to understand even if he loses to Manny, all the fans that hate him will gain a world of respect at the same time. Yeah, he really does never get credit though... He gets criticised for being defensive and just boxing in a boxing match Then they are either, too old, too young, too small, or not in the same league as him. Then he comes up to 154lbs with 10oz gloves against a strong cotto, has a hand injury, and gets hit with a few jabs, and suddenly he is past his prime

My first post here been lurking for years. Cotto was tough for sure but he lost no doubt. I will say that IMO floyd has lost a step maybe. His reaction time is slower and his defense and raw speed has decreased. But with that said he is still the #1 p4p until proven otherwise, if Pac-Man can beat him then he gets the crown. I feel Floyd what he said Cotto was his toughest fight, but i remember Zab Judah gave him a tough fight early too. I just hope they sign the contracts for MAY-PAC, i will be in Vegas at the MGM for that to witness history. Either guy win or lose will go down as the greatest two boxers ever IMO. That's what Money needs to understand even if he loses to Manny, all the fans that hate him will gain a world of respect at the same time.

he's obviously past prime..... no reason to deny it or pretend like he's not getting slower or that he's reflexes aren't as sharp as they once were. But it's like theres a HUGE difference and he's now similar to Baldomir.

He's not old, but he's declining. In the face even, he looks older. Compare his argument with Brian Kenny in 2009 with his interview with him in 2011 about the Ortiz fight. You can see how much he's aged in the last 2-3 years. I think 06 Mayweather beats 2012 Mayweather. But that would be a strange fight to watch. :lol1: Simultaneous pull counter, 2006 Floyd's hits .3 seconds before 2012 Floyd's, KO win in the first round.

Ive said the same.. Its a great comparison... Both are still the best in the league, both are not quite what they used to be. Kobe has changed his game too, hes a lot smarter, but physically hes not the same. and both have been professional athletes for 16 years

he's obviously past prime..... no reason to deny it or pretend like he's not getting slower or that his reflexes aren't as sharp as they once were.

The Mayweather vs. Corrales fight was in January 2001 for the WBC 130 lb. tittle. He is past prime but still the best pfp.

Ive said the same.. Its a great comparison... Both are still the best in the league, both are not quite what they used to be. Kobe has changed his game too, hes a lot smarter, but physically hes not the same. He looks the same post interview in 2009 and 2012 lol

if floyd is still in his prime, then kobe is still in his prime. Ive said the same.. Its a great comparison... Both are still the best in the league, both are not quite what they used to be. Kobe has changed his game too, hes a lot smarter, but physically hes not the same.

if floyd is still in his prime, then kobe is still in his prime.

Maybe you are right..Physically slightly past it but for him to be called old I thought was a joke.. Roach said it and a few others have. You think a 2006 Mayweather beats a 2012 one? Score cards? :P He's not old, but he's declining. In the face even, he looks older. Compare his argument with Brian Kenny in 2009 with his interview with him in 2011 about the Ortiz fight. You can see how much he's aged in the last 2-3 years. I think 06 Mayweather beats 2012 Mayweather. But that would be a strange fight to watch. :lol1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfKoJ1iGtO4 Watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehMQiwxamJI Then watch this To me he looks aloooot better against cotto. I think he looks much sharper against Shane. Round 4 of the Shane fight is one of the best rounds of Mayweather's career IMO.

Training from the age of 3-35 will take a toll on your body. Just because you don't take much punishment in your career doesn't mean you don't decline. I'm sure Wilfred Benitez can attest to that. He still has his skills, and is sharp mentally but physically it's obvious he's passed his best. He's still fast, he's still got fast reflexes and good footwork and he's still the best fighter in the world. But, it's obvious that he's not in his prime anymore. Maybe you are right..Physically slightly past it but for him to be called old I thought was a joke.. Roach said it and a few others have. You think a 2006 Mayweather beats a 2012 one? Score cards? :P

Floyd is not past it.. Cotto just showed us how that the defense is not impenetrable as most of his fans think..

Against mosley I thought his legs really did look shot, he was flat footed and slow to react. I think the 16 month lay off probably did affect him physically, but with the recent activity I really do think he's improved since the Mayweather that fought Mosley he looked to have his legs back and was as quick as I've ever saw him, apart from the 135lbs division. He's just turned 35 and he's always trained hard and kept himself in shape, I think he's defintely a better boxer than he was, he relies on his brain more than his natural athleticism more nowadays. Training from the age of 3-35 will take a toll on your body. Just because you don't take much punishment in your career doesn't mean you don't decline. I'm sure Wilfred Benitez can attest to that. He still has his skills, and is sharp mentally but physically it's obvious he's passed his best. He's still fast, he's still got fast reflexes and good footwork and he's still the best fighter in the world. But, it's obvious that he's not in his prime anymore.