I just rewatch the fight again, and Miguel landed so many clean body shots is not even funny. In the 3rd round floyd landed about 8 good punches, and Cotto killed him to the body landed like 12 body shots alone, and a couple of jabs too.
When they are doing the reply of the 3rd round highlights Cotto landed like 4 body shots cleanly and Emmanuel Steward was talking about how floyd wasnt getting hit and shiiitt, same with Merchant in the rest of the fight. It was disgusting watching replay's of Cotto landing and the HBO comentators talking about jerking off and how Floyd walks on water.
Cotto landed more that 80 body shots in that fight and landed way more overall that what compubox counted. And Floyd landed way less than what they said, most them punches where cought by Cotto's gloves.
I Had Floyd winning 116-112 cuz Miguel lost the last 3 rounds, by doing nothing, but after 8 rounds that was a very even fight. Most rounds where close and very competitive, the only round Miguel looked out of it was the 12th. People Saying Floyd dominated dont know shiiit on how to score or what they where watching. Floyd did man up, fought his heart out and won a very competitive well deserve descision.
What the hell do you care about my scorecard? Does it affect you personally? I score whatever I see and that's that. Am I saying Cotto won? Seriously, talk about a waste of time and energy.
Disregard him. He's a twat. BS P4P top three douche bag.
let it go cotto lost...he wasn't dominated though if that makes you feel good. it was a wide UD but it wasn't domination because a lot of rounds that floyd won were close.
It makes me laugh at how people could get overly excited and score the fight a lot closer because of a fighter they love.
Doesn't affect me personally one bit. Just find it funny.
The way you sound is if I were to of say Margarito won 3-4 Rounds vs Cotto in the rematch. :lol1: Just not possible.
The truth is you don't know me and, seems to me, you either think I'm another poster or have not paid attention to my posts in the past. Cotto is not even one of my favorite fighters of all time. Hell, Erik Morales, a Mexican, ranks much higher on my list than Cotto ever will. I admire Cotto as a fighter. Personally, I don't care about his life just like he does not care about mine since he does not even know I exist. Why would I have to "love" a fighter after all?
This is boxing, which is a great sport to me and one that has given me moments of entertainment and sports satisfaction. It does not affect my life or the way I view it after a win or loss of a fighter. That's all.
I agree
I thought I was the only one who saw this because nobody has really touched on this. I don't know what the ****k steward was talking about...
Nevertheless, I didn't expect anything but bullsh1t from the HBO analyst, and overall broadcast. Did you not see Pac-Marquez 3?
that was spot on
I haven't really criticized any till you came up with your bullshit score and this thread with his crybabies.
What the hell do you care about my scorecard? Does it affect you personally? I score whatever I see and that's that. Am I saying Cotto won? Seriously, talk about a waste of time and energy.
:rofl: Cotto stan!!
Sure, I guess you have amnesia and have forgotten other stuff I posted around the Cotto vs. Margarito II fight which you even agreed to, so yeah, I'm a Cotto stan, whatever. At least, I'm not a certified hater who jumps on any chance to criticize Cotto or his fans even if no one cares about it anymore. Battle on.
This thread and all of it's posts of scorecards and what Cotto "really" landed, is ridiculous.
HBO needs to hire some of you to work in the compubox computers, since you feel they are so incompetent and you can do a better job.
I watched the fight three times and scored the last two. I saw it much closer than the majority but I still think Mayweather took a 115-113 win. To me, that's about as close as it could get.
I gave Cotto 3 rounds and there was one round where he did enough to made it an even round. But to say that at any point during the fight that Cotto was up in the scorecards is really a desperate way of reaching big time.
It was abit cringe worthy at times watching the fight on Box Nation. There was times when Cotto was landing some decent shots and Col Bob Sheridan would laugh and say 'this guy cannot land anything on Mayweather' or would be rambling on and not even mention a good shot that had clearly landed. The UK BoxNation team in the studio were critical of fight commentators and rightly so I thought.
Don't get me wrong, Mayweather was great and clearly won the fight but the BoxNation commentators didn't give Cotto much credit for making it a competitive fight I felt.
Yes but you are missing my point. I said after 8 rounds, one could argue that the fight was 6-2 or 5-3 which means that if Cotto had continued the same momentun he had going for him in rounds 6-8, he might have had a better chance at winning this or making it a very close fight on the cards. I had Floyd winning 9-3 on the cards but I'm trying to point out that through 2/3 of the fight, the fight was actually close. I had Floyd winning the final 4 rounds which help make the decision a wide UD but the fight was there for Cotto to take IMO. Floyd just outworked him in the championship rounds. Thats all I'm saying.
Fighters are human beings. They get tired. They can succumb to others with greater skill, will and/or conditioning. It's real easy to understand that Floyd might simply have better stamina than Cotto. Maybe Miguel wanted to finish strong but simply couldn't. In the twelfth, it appeared that Mayweather could've taken Cotto out. The thought crossed my mind that, if this were the old days, with fifteen round championship fights, Miguel wouldn't have seen the final round.
eventhough the fight.was competitive, floyd won.10 rounds pretty clearly. Even.if I'm generous all I can give cotto is 3 rounds
Yes but you are missing my point. I said after 8 rounds, one could argue that the fight was 6-2 or 5-3 which means that if Cotto had continued the same momentun he had going for him in rounds 6-8, he might have had a better chance at winning this or making it a very close fight on the cards. I had Floyd winning 9-3 on the cards but I'm trying to point out that through 2/3 of the fight, the fight was actually close. I had Floyd winning the final 4 rounds which help make the decision a wide UD but the fight was there for Cotto to take IMO. Floyd just outworked him in the championship rounds. Thats all I'm saying.
I Had Floyd winning 116-112 cuz Miguel lost the last 3 rounds, by doing nothing, but after 8 rounds that was a very even fight. Most rounds where close and very competitive, the only round Miguel looked out of it was the 12th. People Saying Floyd dominated dont know shiiit on how to score or what they where watching. Floyd did man up, fought his heart out and won a very competitive well deserve descision.
I only watched the fight once, the night of the PPV. I didn't keep score, but it was clear that Mayweather won. I think Cotto won three, possibly four, rounds. I agree that Miguel was very competitive; he was in every round but the last.
In theory, a boxer can lose every single round of a fight and still be very competitive. It's possible that every round can be close, but with the same fighter winning all the rounds. That's why some people get crazy when a fight seems to be scored "too wide." In Mayweather-Cotto, a score of 117-111 seems on-point to me. 116-112 is reasonable, in my opinion.
I haven't seen too many people call Floyd's performance "dominant," and I wouldn't agree with them if they did. Miguel did a great job; he just lost to the better boxer.
(By the way -- I don't know if you caught it -- but me and my peeps got a real laugh when Diaz yelled between rounds 8 and 9, "Vamos cojones!" Funny shit. Maaad Cuban. :lol1:)
I agree fight was even if you like after 8. I had Cotto up by a point. But all the momentum he gained, he just let Floyd take it right back like a boss. Pissed me the fvck off.
Cotto lost rounds 9-12 and that cost him the fight IMO. for the first 8 rounds, one could argue the fight was even or very close. I had it 5-3 Floyd after 8, which means the fight was within reach for Cotto. If he had continued that same momentum he had going for him in the 8th, he might have had a stronger and better chance. Like I said before, fight was close but Floyd won the championship rounds and that made the difference. This fight was competative for 12 rounds.
I hate to say it but i agree with this