I find it very telling how quick Cotto-Floyd was signed.
Im thinking maybe a week or two longer than it took for Cotto-Floyd. Thats it.
Pac and Floyd arent afraid of each other. Hell I even know that Pac would take a lesser split without Bobby.
When is Mannys contract up with Arum?
You guys lie all the time.
EXAMPLE: There were many threads/posts that went along the lines of:
You Floyd fans said "Manny should call Floyd on it and state that he would agree to testing with no cutoff dates. If Floyd puts out another roadblock, we will all know who is ducking"
About a year ago, there were rumors that Floyd wanted $100 million to fight Manny. Everyone was disgusted but Floyd fans protected Floyd by saying that "YOU HAVE NO PROOF .... Floyd would never ask for something that crazy ... just tell you hero Manny to TAKE THE TEST AND WE HAVE A FIGHT"
Now that Manny agreed to testing, Floyd and his fans are protecting the "Floyd deserves all PPV money .... and Manny deserves what Floyd is giving him."
If Floyd doesn't come down from the clouds with his demands, Manny needs to fight someone. Right? So whoever Manny fights, it better be someone that will expect it to be challenging/ competitive as he only has a few fights left anyways.Isn't there something deep down inside you that makes you feel guilty about lying, lmao. Money wasn't the issue, money became an issue.
Stop lying to the masses. Your hero wanted a cutoff date the first time, already had a fight made during the second negotiations, and in the last go around demanded 50/50 knowing he never deserved 50/50.
You Pacquiao clowns wanted Marquez Pacquiao 4 because you know Pacquiao can't beat Floyd, and second that you, along with Arum, thought that Floyd had no opponent. After last night, I expect lies coming from you mofos, lmao!
You guys lie all the time.
EXAMPLE: There were many threads/posts that went along the lines of:
You Floyd fans said "Manny should call Floyd on it and state that he would agree to testing with no cutoff dates. If Floyd puts out another roadblock, we will all know who is ducking"
About a year ago, there were rumors that Floyd wanted $100 million to fight Manny. Everyone was disgusted but Floyd fans protected Floyd by saying that "YOU HAVE NO PROOF .... Floyd would never ask for something that crazy ... just tell you hero Manny to TAKE THE TEST AND WE HAVE A FIGHT"
Now that Manny agreed to testing, Floyd and his fans are protecting the "Floyd deserves all PPV money .... and Manny deserves what Floyd is giving him."
If Floyd doesn't come down from the clouds with his demands, Manny needs to fight someone. Right? So whoever Manny fights, it better be someone that will expect it to be challenging/ competitive as he only has a few fights left anyways.
But he is happy to give a percentage to GBP. What a wanker.:nonono: This was a stupid, clueless answer, lmao! Floyd doesn't seem to think that gpb cheated him out of money.
No body is saying too Floyd but Manny agreed to be tested , maybe officially he hasnt agreed !
Floyd offered Manny 50% and Manny took off , lets see what the figures do for Cotto fight and Bradley fight , I doubt Manny is worth 50/50 based on generated money from both guys , but Im sure a legit deal could be made if Arum would piss off !
Floyd and his team had said that testing is no longer an issue .... only now that he gets questioned about his "I want all PPV money" has Floyd went back to testing.
Let's say we believe Floyd's latest statement which is very doubtful, the only way I can see Manny changing his stance on testing is to tell Floyd, if you want better than 50/50 then drug testing is off the table. So it's a negotiation stance so that Floyd backs off from his "I want all PPV money"
PEDs testing was a big compromise for Manny. Manny could have said, who do you think you are Floyd that you want all the money plus expect me to go along with your testing rules.
what a mess pbf did to this sport. fans don't know what issue to tackle. some defend his a55 about the drug testing issue. some defend him by saying 80/20 split is justified. some say it's arum that's causing the problem. which is it? they seem not ready to admit that fear is the real issue. fear of losing.
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Floyd doesn't want Arum to make any money off of his and Pacquiaos blood. He wants Pacquiao to pay Arum out of his pocket. Floyd doesn't want Arum to make a penny off of the percentage of this possible super fight.
But he is happy to give a percentage to GBP. What a wanker.:nonono:
Probably one week. Floyd just wants Todd duBoef to take over negotiations for Pacquiao. The problem with Arum is that he still feels slighted because Floyd left Top Rank. Look at the animosity with Bob and Oscar. It's all because Oscar left to start his own promotional company. Instead of compromising with Al Haymon, Arum lets his emotions take over negotiations. Arum is just pissed that Floyd made all this money without Top Rank. Floyd and Todd have a great relationship according to Floyd himself.
I remember Floyd saying that Manny saying he agreed to take the test was a lie. He said that Manny "agreed" but he still wanted cut-off dates and he still didn't want to take the test all the way up into the fight. He then went on about how Arum is a liar and this and that and he would give Manny a 60-40 if he leaves Arum. I'll try and find the video of the interview.
Floyd doesn't want Arum to make any money off of his and Pacquiaos blood. He wants Pacquiao to pay Arum out of his pocket. Floyd doesn't want Arum to make a penny off of the percentage of this possible super fight.
Stop lying to the masses. Your hero wanted a cutoff date the first time, already had a fight made during the second negotiations, and in the last go around demanded 50/50 knowing he never deserved 50/50.
You Pacquiao clowns wanted Marquez Pacquiao 4 because you know Pacquiao can't beat Floyd, and second that you, along with Arum, thought that Floyd had no opponent. After last night, I expect lies coming from you mofos, lmao!
ohw and stop lying to yourself..:lol1:
Another completely pointless floydiot thread. Talk about attention whoring! they create a master thread so idiots can ask dumb questions like this if they must, but the little retards have to make thread to ask it. Bumsniffs and morons :nonono:
They already tried. Arum was not the main reason the last time. Mayweather and pac talked offline and still didn't come to an agreement. It will only happen if one side accept to be the b side of the equation. Else all we will ever get in the bickering of both camps.
That is the problem with some Floyd fans ... they believe everything that Floyd tells them.
Larry Merchant asked Floyd, "Floyd are you willing to come down from your demand" That is, Floyd wants all PPV money).
Floyd responded with "Manny doesn't want to be tested" instead of answer Merchant's direct question.
Even Lampley laughed and said the drug testing was resolved a long time ago .... laughing at Floyd not responding to Merchants question.
Remember that it's Floyd that is demanding "I want all the PPV money" NOT ARUM. That is the latest roadblock
Stop lying to the masses. Your hero wanted a cutoff date the first time, already had a fight made during the second negotiations, and in the last go around demanded 50/50 knowing he never deserved 50/50.
You Pacquiao clowns wanted Marquez Pacquiao 4 because you know Pacquiao can't beat Floyd, and second that you, along with Arum, thought that Floyd had no opponent. After last night, I expect lies coming from you mofos, lmao!
yep. fight is not happening. you folks should celebrate. let pbf be called a chicken for the rest of his life. i have no problem with that.
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You have never really wanted it because you know Pac will be schooled ala JMM style , its a shame when the world can be conned by CWs and cherry picking to duck Floyd , the Pac scam is so obviuos Manny is the Politition and hides behind BS like all Polititions do .
No body is saying too Floyd but Manny agreed to be tested , maybe officially he hasnt agreed !
Floyd offered Manny 50% and Manny took off , lets see what the figures do for Cotto fight and Bradley fight , I doubt Manny is worth 50/50 based on generated money from both guys , but Im sure a legit deal could be made if Arum would piss off !
yep. fight is not happening. you folks should celebrate. let pbf be called a chicken for the rest of his life. i have no problem with that.
:bigeyes:
That is the problem with some Floyd fans ... they believe everything that Floyd tells them.
Larry Merchant asked Floyd, "Floyd are you willing to come down from your demand" That is, Floyd wants all PPV money).
Floyd responded with "Manny doesn't want to be tested" instead of answer Merchant's direct question.
Even Lampley laughed and said the drug testing was resolved a long time ago .... laughing at Floyd not responding to Merchants question.
Remember that it's Floyd that is demanding "I want all the PPV money" NOT ARUM. That is the latest roadblock
No body is saying too Floyd but Manny agreed to be tested , maybe officially he hasnt agreed !
Floyd offered Manny 50% and Manny took off , lets see what the figures do for Cotto fight and Bradley fight , I doubt Manny is worth 50/50 based on generated money from both guys , but Im sure a legit deal could be made if Arum would piss off !
I find it very telling how quick Cotto-Floyd was signed.
Im thinking maybe a week or two longer than it took for Cotto-Floyd. Thats it.
Pac and Floyd arent afraid of each other. Hell I even know that Pac would take a lesser split without Bobby.
When is Mannys contract up with Arum?
That is the problem with some Floyd fans ... they believe everything that Floyd tells them.
Larry Merchant asked Floyd, "Floyd are you willing to come down from your demand" That is, Floyd wants all PPV money).
Floyd responded with "Manny doesn't want to be tested" instead of answer Merchant's direct question.
Even Lampley laughed and said the drug testing was resolved a long time ago .... laughing at Floyd not responding to Merchants question.
Remember that it's Floyd that is demanding "I want all the PPV money" NOT ARUM. That is the latest roadblock
You mean " Manny is on the decline", or Floyd waited until Manny got old:rofl:
That too. Either way Mayweather ain't getting credit for beating Pacquiao.
I'd say it happens in less than 2-3 weeks. Fight gets signed, and then everyone starts saying that Pacquiao is "too small" and that he is shot, but just before the fight is signed he is scared of Pacquiao.
You mean " Manny is on the decline", or Floyd waited until Manny got old:rofl:
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