Whats the Differences between Old ATG vs New Greats??

It is easier to protect a fighter today from certain styles and challenges. Also now a fighter wants to move up in weight they can buy a vacant title.

My quetion is this... why do older ppl feel that the fighters of old (Hagler, Hearns, Leonard, Ali ect.) are so much better than the great fighters of recent years (Roy Jones, Mayweather, Pacquiao, Mosley, De La Hoya, Klitschkos ect.) I'm just curious I think u can sum it up with just one example - the two outsatnding guys of their time/divisions Ray Robinson and jake lamotta fought eachother six times ... today the two outstanding guys - pac and Floyd have fought eachother precisely 0 times.

Back then there were way more fighters, so the competition were more stacked at each division.

My quetion is this... why do older ppl feel that the fighters of old (Hagler, Hearns, Leonard, Ali ect.) are so much better than the great fighters of recent years (Roy Jones, Mayweather, Pacquiao, Mosley, De La Hoya, Klitschkos ect.) I'm just curious Consider who they fought. A win over a Prime Foreman is far more impressive than any single win of any of those recent fighters you just named have. That's only the start for Ali. I don't need to touch on Leonard. Hagler and Hearns aren't that far on the ATG rankings from Roy Jones, Mayweather and Pacquiao, in my opinion.

My quetion is this... why do older ppl feel that the fighters of old (Hagler, Hearns, Leonard, Ali ect.) are so much better than the great fighters of recent years (Roy Jones, Mayweather, Pacquiao, Mosley, De La Hoya, Klitschkos ect.) I'm just curious It may be that except for Leonard, they didn't look for hidden advantages before they signed to fight the top guys. They were more dedicated to boxing as a sport and wanting to prove they're the best. The most meaningless phrase in boxing nowadays is "he has nothing left to prove" so he should retire. Today's boxer more than ever, is running a business, for... to make money. And the more successful he is (no matter whom he fights) the more money he makes. So why should he retire when his business is doing well?? A good example is the klitschko brothers. Just think about it. The fools who say or write this, in the next few seconds, are fully capable of saying.."it's all about money" not realising that they're contradicting themselves..

People tend to favor boxers the same age as themselves because those fighters were in their prime when they were in their prime.I've been a boxing fan since 1960. I go by what I see with my own eyes or on film. It helps when comparing old timers with newer fighters to see films of both within minutes or hours of each other rather than relying on memory alone.Some things I miss are 15 round tittle fights and big fights on free tv every weekend. Top fighters fighting 4 or 5 times a year. Same day weigh ins, a much better system. One champ in each weight class. I think the best of today's fighter like Mayweather, Pacquiao and Marquez among others are of simular quality to the best fighters of the past. Who would win when it's prime against prime is a matter of opinion.Boxing is more world wide now with good fighters coming from Russia, Eastern Europe, Africa, almost anywhere.

My quetion is this... why do older ppl feel that the fighters of old (Hagler, Hearns, Leonard, Ali ect.) are so much better than the great fighters of recent years (Roy Jones, Mayweather, Pacquiao, Mosley, De La Hoya, Klitschkos ect.) I'm just curious They fought for the love of the sport and to fight the best and be world champion! Fought with heart! Now it's all about money

Because of their resume will use Floyd and Sugar Ray Leonard as comparators. SRL-Hearns, Duran, Benitez, Hagler. Mayweather- Castillo, Coralles, Hernandez, De La Hoya. Two of those fighters were passed their prime, none of them are in the same ball park as the heads on SRL resume. Ability wise you can present arguments for the present day fighters but the previous greats have been tested more stringently.

It doesn't help the argument for current ATGs that past champions fought against the backdrops of societal changes like WW2 and civil right movements and the like...Fans who grew up during classic fights associate them to their lives and remember where they were and the excitement they felt stayed with them more than now where if a fighter loses at all they are a bum...fighters were alot more respected... But you can't forget about the corruption...fighters taking dives...fighters still ducked there just wasn't as much coverage to it as opposed to now... You should look up and discover fighters for yourself sometime. You'll see similarities between current and past fighters if just in things that current fighters picked up from the fighters they grew up watching.

BECAUSE THEY WERE BETTER! Someone post "People Want To Feel Like Their ERA WAS BETTER"...well that goes hand and hand, the younger boxing fans OVERRATE Mayweather and Pacquiao because they want to feel like their favorite current fighters are fighting in the "BEST ERA" and deep down we all know that is a bunch of BS This current ERA is one of the weakest ERA's EVER, just a bunch of very AVERAGE FIGHTERS being HYPED UP AS THE NEXT BIG THING...they don't EARN THE HYPE, it is handed to them based on everything besides their SKILLS IN THE RING! Not many classic rivalries or matches, fighters don't want to fight each other, promoters don't want to work with each other, way too many titles

Back in the day when there was a question as to who the better fighter was, it was answered in the ring by the fighters. today too often it is argued by fans on a message board.

Skills wise not much. Athletically the Newer Greats are more evolved than the older legends. Career wise though.........it's just ****ing easier in this day and age. You can be "groomed" to be champion you can duck fighters this and that. Legends in the older days fought each other multiple times and the best made it out top point blank period.

Nostalgia. They want to feel they were apart of the best era of whatever it is. I am 21 so what ever happened during the 90's was the best to me, games music movies True, but the 90's actually did have better things in sports, movies, and music going on than many decades around it. And many people still consider people like Willie Mays, Mickey Mantle, Jerry West, and Rocky Marciano legendary, yet were not alive to see them in action. So a counter-argument can be made against the "biased to my era" flaw. there were more fighters venues they fought more often they made less at the top, but they made much more at the local level because they could fight and draw well so often in the 50's there were more pro boxers in the state of new york than there are pros all over the world today many of them were heavyweights (175 lbs or higher in those days,) it's a whole can of worms you're opening, son This. Watch a tape of them. Absolutely!

Everything was harder back then. Far less weight classes & belts. Meaning the way to becoming a champion wasn't easy. Anyway consider this. Right now between 126-147 there are 5 weight classes. Back in the day they were only 3. So a fighter moving up in weight now can break records that never existed back then. A fighter now has 4 world titles to choose from & can pick the weakest champ to win a championship against. That's only scratching the surface.Most of this is true. However many people believe the 130 lb. class and the 140 lb. class have not been around very long, but these two weight classes have been a part of pro boxing for a very long time. Champions of these weights were almost as respected as champions of the 135 and 147 weight classes.The junior lightweight tittle started in November 18,1921 when Johnny Dundee beat George Chaney for the vacant tittle. Famous boxers to win this tittle include Benny Bass in 1929 and Kid Chocolate who KOed Bass in 1931. This weight class was dropped from pro boxing at the end of 1933. It was brought back in 1949 with Sandy Saddler winning the vacant tittle. The weight class was again dropped for 10 years but came back to stay in 1959. The 140 lb. class started in 1925 and it was also dropped from time to time. It was here to stay when Carlos Ortiz KOed Kenny Lane for the Vacant tittle in 1959. Famous fighters Barney Ross and Tony Canzoneri fought for this tittle in 1933 with Ross winning a decision. The WBC and the WBA showed up in the late 1960s to screw things up. The IBF showed up in the mid 1980s to screw things up even more. The fact that these two weight classes were dropped from time to time is proof alot of people think they are unnecessary because the weights are to close together. How about 105, 108, 112, 115, 118, and 122 ? Do we need all those? Sorry about all the history. I got carried away.

Nostalgia. They want to feel they were apart of the best era of whatever it is. I am 21 so what ever happened during the 90's was the best to me, games music movies This..... edit: now that I think about it I dont want to get in this debate again

there were more fighters venues they fought more often they made less at the top, but they made much more at the local level because they could fight and draw well so often in the 50's there were more pro boxers in the state of new york than there are pros all over the world today many of them were heavyweights (175 lbs or higher in those days,) it's a whole can of worms you're opening, son

My quetion is this... why do older ppl feel that the fighters of old (Hagler, Hearns, Leonard, Ali ect.) are so much better than the great fighters of recent years (Roy Jones, Mayweather, Pacquiao, Mosley, De La Hoya, Klitschkos ect.) I'm just curious Watch a tape of them.

Nostalgia. They want to feel they were apart of the best era of whatever it is. I am 21 so what ever happened during the 90's was the best to me, games music movies

There is no difference in terms of specific fighters. Just because your a modern fighter doesn't mean you can't be as great as an older great. There are older ATG's who are between the 50-100 mark and there are newer aren't who are in the 1-50 mark. And vice versa. A lot of older fighters get more praise because a lot of the fighters with the best resumes of all time happen to be from the older generation. But again, that doesn't mean a modern fighter can't be as great as them.

back then we had many more chavez sr/jr's and canelo alvarez's