Roy Jones Jr. was another if not a bigger boxing virtuoso than Floyd, everyone thought he was unbeatable, a boxing GOD. But age caught up to him all of a sudden against Tarver(who was an ever bigger mismatch than Cotto/Floyd).
I wouldn't be surprised if Saturday night Cotto shocks the world and KO's Floyd.
RJJ was fighter of the decade
floyd never even came close
Having said that, Cotto has a very real chance of not just beating floyd, but destroying him
Fighter of the Decade? Really? You do know outside-of-boxing accomplishments have considerable stock in that "award"?
Floyd has been considered one of the greatest ever to lace gloves for several years now. Cotto destroying Floyd? Don't be ridiculous, Cotto couldn't destroy fighters more than twice as slow and significantly less technically and fundamentally sound than Floyd, he won't even come close.
OP, you and the rest of the world know that cotto is not gonna KO floyd, he'll be lucky if he comes close to winning.
and no I dont think floyd would go down the roy jones jr road
This.
Roy went to far up in weight and than tried to go to far down. It's not like Floyd is going to 160 or 168 and than going down trying to fight at 147 or something. And though Roy is one of the greatest ever H2H/skills hands down, Floyd has much more pure ability and boxing skill to fall back n than Roy did. That's why you see Floyd at 35 years old still able to beat anyone.
He's more likely to go down the Hopkins road than the RJJ one. Roy was a "virtuoso" in terms of reflexes and athleticism, and the skills he displayed were wholly based upon them. The two are not similar, Mayweather is much more fundamentally sound.
More like B-Hop road
Agree...
Maybe not mid 40s but late 30s and early 40s, all depends.
The rapid weight loss killed Jones also Jones was kinda like Naseem Hamed didn't have a solid skill set to go with his amazing physical gifts Mayweather is much more skilled
Utter nonsense.
He's more likely to go down the Hopkins road than the RJJ one. Roy was a "virtuoso" in terms of reflexes and athleticism, and the skills he displayed were wholly based upon them. The two are not similar, Mayweather is much more fundamentally sound.
Roy Jones Jr. was another if not a bigger boxing virtuoso than Floyd, everyone thought he was unbeatable, a boxing GOD. But age caught up to him all of a sudden against Tarver(who was an ever bigger mismatch than Cotto/Floyd).
I wouldn't be surprised if Saturday night Cotto shocks the world and KO's Floyd.
More like B-Hop road
I'm with Reed as far as moving back down for the Tarver fight being very important for Roy. Winning the light heavyweight title back is huge, as was the actual fight, since people loved to pretend Roy couldn't pull out a tough fight. So I'm good with the move back down. After Tarver 2 though, it would have been great if Roy had realized he was about done and walked away. Hard to watch my favorite fighter become the laughing stock he is now in the ring.
Agreed on the weight. I do, however, believe he was aged. And agree on him retiring ages ago. Although I say he should have done it Lennox Lewis style, taken a hint from Tarver I and walking away before the beatdowns commenced.
The move back down in weight, in retrospect, was just dumb. Most fighters who tried that, like Chris Byrd, got their sh*t rocked too. But, Roy actually won his first fight back at 175 against Tarver, although I think that fight took a lot out of him.
That said, I think age played as much of a factor. He had been slipping for a long time and taking more punches. And cutting corners in the gym. Easy to think you're giving 100% in the gym once you've reached that stature. It can definitely happen to Floyd too, as hard as he works. He's been slipping. And I do remember a rare real moment from Floyd, during 24/7 Mayweather-Ortiz, him shaking his head and saying "I can't bullsh*t with this" as they wrapped his hands. It's a hard demon to shake, especially when you're getting a little older and have plenty in the bank. I love fights like this.
I'm with Reed as far as moving back down for the Tarver fight being very important for Roy. Winning the light heavyweight title back is huge, as was the actual fight, since people loved to pretend Roy couldn't pull out a tough fight. So I'm good with the move back down. After Tarver 2 though, it would have been great if Roy had realized he was about done and walked away. Hard to watch my favorite fighter become the laughing stock he is now in the ring.
I don't remember that. In what context was that?
But, I don't think he'll go down the Jones Jr road.
Mayweather's relies on reflexes but Roy is just a different animal in that regard.
As soon as Mayweather has a Tarver 1 like fight. He's packing his bags, I think.
Aww man, it still stands out to me. He is clearly referring to training. And he's getting his hands wrapped. Looks down, is talking to himself in a way, and says in a low voice while shaking his head, "I can't bullsh*t with this, man." I remember it well because it struck me as some real sh*t :lol1:. Even the hardest working man in showbiz wants a break or two. Hell, Mayweather's taken a couple years off before. It'll be a miracle if, at this age and with so much cash, that doesn't seep into training.
The move back down in weight, in retrospect, was just dumb. Most fighters who tried that, like Chris Byrd, got their sh*t rocked too. But, Roy actually won his first fight back at 175 against Tarver, although I think that fight took a lot out of him.
That said, I think age played as much of a factor. He had been slipping for a long time and taking more punches. And cutting corners in the gym. Easy to think you're giving 100% in the gym once you've reached that stature. It can definitely happen to Floyd too, as hard as he works. He's been slipping. And I do remember a rare real moment from Floyd, during 24/7 Mayweather-Ortiz, him shaking his head and saying "I can't bullsh*t with this" as they wrapped his hands. It's a hard demon to shake, especially when you're getting a little older and have plenty in the bank. I love fights like this.
I don't remember that. In what context was that?
But, I don't think he'll go down the Jones Jr road.
Mayweather's relies on reflexes but Roy is just a different animal in that regard.
As soon as Mayweather has a Tarver 1 like fight. He's packing his bags, I think.
I don't think it was the age nearly as much as the move back down in weight with Roy.
The move back down in weight, in retrospect, was just dumb. Most fighters who tried that, like Chris Byrd, got their sh*t rocked too. But, Roy actually won his first fight back at 175 against Tarver, although I think that fight took a lot out of him.
That said, I think age played as much of a factor. He had been slipping for a long time and taking more punches. And cutting corners in the gym. Easy to think you're giving 100% in the gym once you've reached that stature. It can definitely happen to Floyd too, as hard as he works. He's been slipping. And I do remember a rare real moment from Floyd, during 24/7 Mayweather-Ortiz, him shaking his head and saying "I can't bullsh*t with this" as they wrapped his hands. It's a hard demon to shake, especially when you're getting a little older and have plenty in the bank. I love fights like this.
OP, you and the rest of the world know that cotto is not gonna KO floyd, he'll be lucky if he comes close to winning.
and no I dont think floyd would go down the roy jones jr road
The difference is the style of fighter Jones was compared to Floyd.
Floyd is so fundamentally sound that he will survive even when his physical abilities slip.