Bradley will have to KO Pac to win

Unfortunately the fans can't alter what's on the books. 50 years from now, the W over Abril will just look like a W. Arum, best promoter in the game. Soon enough, people will start mentioning Abril as a win for Rios, when mentioning who he's beaten. Post of the decade.

We have seen many questionable calls recently under different promoters. Recently I remember some blaming Arum even when the winner is not an Arum fighter. Some people will go out and call Arum on making the fix but STOP criticizing (calling it a fix)as soon as someone corrects them that this was a Golden Boy fight! Looking at history, Top Rank is not any more crooked than any other promoter .... example GB and King. but I would be the first one against Arum if he gets caught doing it .... we need real proof because I don't like cheats! It kills boxing with all these bad scores. I usually just blame the (bad) judges. Arum HAS been caught paying off officials for favorable treatment back in the 90s if I recall. You mean to tell me that isn't a giant red flag with the questionable decisions coming his fighter's ways recently? JCCJR, Pac (although close, Arum seemed to imply he had something to do with it with the "Its just business" comment and the way Marquez looked directly at Arum after the decision as if to say "I thought it would be a fair shake") and now, not surprisingly, this Rios fight..where we should add one of the judges who had it by a wider Margin in the Pac-JMM 3 fight was also judging. Lets not forget the acting in Likar Ramos vs JMM. :P I remember JMM looking at him like "wtf" lol

After watching that catastrophic robbery tonight, I have realized something. Bradley will have to KO pac to win, and we know that won't happen. People might have thought before that if he schools pac and scores what should be a clear decision that he would get the win, but now I am sure Bob is shameless enough to do it. Makes me wonder: Is Mayweather scared to fight Pacquiao because he is afraid to get robbed? Exactly, I don't understand why people are picking Bradley to win. The man has literally no chance. I don't think Floyd would get robbed against Pac because he got slightly more star power. Actually he might not have to, Bradley has signed with Top Rank and still has 6-8 years left in the tank. Pacquiao has stated numerous times that he intends to retire soon. From a business point of view it makes more sense to rob Pacquiao. Not with a very lucrative 4th JMM fight or a possible Floyd megafight in the horizon. As long as these options are on the table Pac's winning streak will continue (although I think he'll beat Bradley fair and square because he's several leagues above).

Marquez vs Manny was a close fight no matter who you thought won the fight. You just have an opinion on who won the fight and I have another. It was too close to call a robbery, if you are objective about it. Several rounds could have gone either way as it was that close ..... a fight can be close but clear but this was not one of them. Rios was a clear robbery. Even a majority of the die hard Rios fans are not coming out in favor of Rios. Not too hard to comprehend! Good post. But are you really judging that fight subjectively? I agree it was a close fight, and that Marquez should have done more down the stretch. But it's not like Pac was really coming on hard at the end to take the fight back. He didn't hurt Marquez at all really which he did many times in the first two fights, and to me Marquez was just more effective. But you are right, it was a close fight and not an outrageous decision (although, I still think it was a close BUT clear enough victory for Marquez)

What about anyone who fights a Al haymon fighter? He fixes more fights than Arum ever could and that includes Cotto vs floyd. So Cotto will have to KO floyd also but i don't hear any of yall sayin that Cotto would have to KO Floyd regardless of any potential fixing. Why? Because there is 0% chance he could outbox Floyd to a decision. Only way Cotto wins is to KO Floyd or at least knock him down a few times + win the majority of rounds (shouldn't be the case, but its true)

What about anyone who fights a Al haymon fighter? He fixes more fights than Arum ever could and that includes Cotto vs floyd. So Cotto will have to KO floyd also but i don't hear any of yall sayin that thats just not true, not suprising your biased ass would make things up though, just like its not suprising you try to change the subject to floyds fight even though the thread has nothing to do with that. arum is a promoter, he hires the judges and writes their checks. make him happy and you will get more jobs in the future, make him pissed and you wont. haymon is an advisor, he has leverage on hbo bcuz of the amount of top fighters he has under contract. he puts his best fighters on hbo and they give his up and coming fighters a chance to prove themselves on hbo as well, one hand washes the other. however he has very little if any leverage with the judges and isnt in a position to sway them. haymon doesnt fix fights, he isnt a promoter so he doesnt run the show. im not saying he doesnt have influence just not like that. haymon gets his fighters the best matchups and dates on hbo, but thats as far as it goes. nobody in boxing can match arums record of corruption and fixing fights is method of choice. to say haymon fixes more fights than arum is not only wrong but retarded beyond belief.

I doubt a KO happens from Bradley in this fight.

of course he is not going to get the Decision, they already talking about a 4th fight with JMM so we already know what the next fight will be Manny may have 3 fights left in him. If Manny loses to Bradley, that fight with Marquez can still happen. The only thing in jeopardy would be a fight with Floyd but that one may not happen anyways.

No, I would rather see the appropriate fighter get the decision when they deserve it. Like last night, and in the Marquez/Pacquiao fight. Judging is not easy and while they may see things live that we don't, they don't have access to replays and all the angles that we may have looking at it from the vantage point of a TV. So a close fight is hard to blame the judges some of the time but yesterday's Rios fight was really bad. I hate when that happens. I think with Manny, you clearly have an agenda. No doubt about that. Yes, I can respect someone's opinion that Marquez won but to say that it was a robbery was in my opinion, way out in left field.

of course he is not going to get the Decision, they already talking about a 4th fight with JMM so we already know what the next fight will be nobody is talking about what will happen "IF BRADLEY WINS"

What about anyone who fights a Al haymon fighter? He fixes more fights than Arum ever could and that includes Cotto vs floyd. So Cotto will have to KO floyd also but i don't hear any of yall sayin that We have seen many questionable calls recently under different promoters. Recently I remember some blaming Arum even when the winner is not an Arum fighter. Some people will go out and call Arum on making the fix but STOP criticizing (calling it a fix)as soon as someone corrects them that this was a Golden Boy fight! Looking at history, Top Rank is not any more crooked than any other promoter .... example GB and King. but I would be the first one against Arum if he gets caught doing it .... we need real proof because I don't like cheats! It kills boxing with all these bad scores. I usually just blame the (bad) judges.

What about anyone who fights a Al haymon fighter? He fixes more fights than Arum ever could and that includes Cotto vs floyd. So Cotto will have to KO floyd also but i don't hear any of yall sayin that

He can't even win by knockout if it's going to be this blatant. If Pac can get up and complain ala Cintron..good luck. Martinez has proved that you can't win by KO, DQ, or decision all in one fight lol

A lot of diehard Paqturds came out and said they felt bad that Marquez was robbed, so I guess it was like the Rios robbery. Sure they were ..... the only ones that said it from my recollection were the ones that were surrounded by mad Marquez fans at the fight. A few posts back I told you how I and my wife felt when we thought Marquez won. I know you don't believe but that was how we felt. Manny shouldn't get a win if he didn't deserve the win .... but Manny did win .... it was our opinion, yes but it was close not a robbery! Manny has lost before and may lose again. It's part of any sport .... its only you Floyd fans that have that "0" mentality. I would rather see my fighter fight the best and lose a few wars along the way than hear him say "self-preservation", "I'm getting older so don't expect me to fight the best"

A fighters control or not still gets disqualified if your cornerman steps in the ring know the rules before you post it makes you look stupid, Were talking about the first fight not the second fight and if you believe Floyd had a rotator cuff tear that would have continued to worsen num nuts. Where are his surgery scars for the torn Rotator ? It's just an excuse I know that are the rules you idiot, but how about thinking for yourself as a fan and not as a cheerleader. Should we all be demanded that Manny be DQ for hitting Marquez while he was down? Ofcourse not cause that wouldn't be a honorable way to win a fight on a technicality. A fighter and fans would much rather have the best man win. Floyd rematched a close fight with Castillo and proved to be better then Castillo regardless what happened in there first fight. Rematches are made to remove doubt and Floyd proved his case against Castillo, but you cheerleaders can't accept that. Floyd was walking Judah down and was on his way of stoping if not completely dominating him. Would any respecting objective fan want a win go to Judah by a technicality? Absolutely not cause Floyd was winning and better so the rule wouldn't have benefited the sport cause it would not be honoring the better fighter that was dominate in the fight. But again you cheerleader would rather discriminate the better fighter who dominates and have him lose cause of your pity cheerleading agenda. GTFO with that b!!tcha$$ attitude.

It will be Bradley's own fault for dealing with the devil (Bob "I Have No Soul" Arum). Your literally asking to get screwed over (in the ring and financially) when you sign with Bob Arum. Bradley made a stupid decision. He could have signed with Golden Boy and got the Mayweather fight with much more money and much more recognition being available to him in the process, and even if he had lost to Floyd he still would have had the option of fighting Pacquiao later down the line in his career. By signing with Arum he has put himself in a terrible situation. He is making only a percentage of what he could make, he will need to KO Pacquiao to get a draw and he now has zero chance of ever getting the Mayweather fight. I guess he just figured that he has virtually no chance of beating Mayweather and signed with Arum because he thought Pacquiao was easy pickings after being dominated by Marquez. It's still a terrible move regardless of how you look at it.

Nope, I checked every round and tried to objectively say, could this round be given to Marquez or Manny... I had some rounds different than Ledderman. but the point was that it was a close fight not a robbery .... I guess being objective is hard for you when your wearing your Pacman PJs.........:lol1:

Whenever the wrong fighter gets the decision, the other fighter is robbed of a win. Arum managed to get Pac a win and Rios a win last night. Not too hard to comperehend. Marquez vs Manny was a close fight no matter who you thought won the fight. You just have an opinion on who won the fight and I have another. It was too close to call a robbery, if you are objective about it. Several rounds could have gone either way as it was that close ..... a fight can be close but clear but this was not one of them. Rios was a clear robbery. Even a majority of the die hard Rios fans are not coming out in favor of Rios. Not too hard to comprehend!

Nope, I had to listen to Lampley's slurping of Pacquiao, you probably beat off to that telecast. Even with all that cheerleading I scored it a clear Marquez win. Nope, I checked every round and tried to objectively say, could this round be given to Marquez or Manny... I had some rounds different than Ledderman. but the point was that it was a close fight not a robbery ....

I'm not sure what you mean exactly, by saying Floyd can't lose under Arum. Are you referring to when he was with Arum for the first Castillo fight? That was a very close fight, those who claim that it was a robbery I think are off base and probably Floyd haters. All of Manny's wins beside the 3rd Marquez fight in my opinion are legitimate wins (because he didn't need any help from Arums judges). So I am not a Manny hater, I'm a fan actually, of him and Floyd. Marquez vs Manny was close .... there were many complaints with the Castillo fight so if you question the Marquez fight was suspicious then the Castillo fight deserves to be placed in the same boat!