I haven't really been on here for several years, and I've been following boxing on and off, but just recently got back to it hardcore but no one around me seems to care about boxing
I visit other boxing forums and Boxing Scene is the most active, but even when it is active it's still slow compared to other sport oriented websites.
The internet is used a lot by the youth, yet boxing doesn't seem to have the youth market behind it like other sports and the traffic only seems to ****e when a fight is on. After that the traffic dies down.
I can visit Tennis, MMA, NBA, MLB, NFL, forums and they all have more activity than most boxing forums.
Internet should make it easier for boxing fans to gain more info, yet the younger generation doesn't seem to care about it. Should they market boxing with punk music, and hip hop, and other trendy things to get the interested of the mainstream and teens?
The slow but steady Pussification of the North American Public will cause most contact sports to dwindle into nothing over time. Enjoy what is left of the sport for now as in 10-15 years it might be gone.
PPV is killing boxing. All those old Muhammad Ali fights were on regular TV, anyone could watch them. The cable came out and all the big fights in the 80's were on cable. Not everyone has cable. I first got into boxing when I saw Mike Tyson fighting on ABC wide world of sports on public TV. We didn't have cable back then. If it wasn't for seeing him on public TV, I never would have had the chance to know who he was, at least not early on.
The fans are to busy watching the fights ....dont got time to be on forums
That just shows how old the boxing fan base many of them don't even know how to use computers :(
Why haven't boxing been able to build up that "NEXT BIG THING" or create a buzz for that next big thing in boxing, even with them trying to HYPE Canelo...only boxing fans know Canelo, if you don't follow boxing you have no clue who he is
That's true in america but Canelo is all over mexican TV. People who don't follow boxing over there know who he is.
james toney got $750000 to fight couture while randy got $250000 purse & $200000 win bonus...to think people laughed at toney.LOL! he was the only one laughing all the way to the bank!
Yeah he got paid more money than the two main event fighters combined. Crazy.
It's a niche sport, where you have to pay to watch the best fighters. There is little promotion or exposure to non-existing fans, though 24/7 has helped improve this. If the sport didn't have the great history behind it, it's doubtful whether it would be considered a top sport today
I haven't really been on here for several years, and I've been following boxing on and off, but just recently got back to it hardcore but no one around me seems to care about boxing
I visit other boxing forums and Boxing Scene is the most active, but even when it is active it's still slow compared to other sport oriented websites.
The internet is used a lot by the youth, yet boxing doesn't seem to have the youth market behind it like other sports and the traffic only seems to ****e when a fight is on. After that the traffic dies down.
I can visit Tennis, MMA, NBA, MLB, NFL, forums and they all have more activity than most boxing forums.
Internet should make it easier for boxing fans to gain more info, yet the younger generation doesn't seem to care about it. Should they market boxing with punk music, and hip hop, and other trendy things to get the interested of the mainstream and teens?
honestly boxing blows with all the duck weathers involved. Im waiting for a 47 year old to take the best available comp and thats it. bhop might be the last real fighter left. guys half his age wont do it.
Most NFL forums have super low activity, even during the season yet it produces some of the highest ratings in the world.
The internet usually shows how popular it is with the young crowd. Remember, UFC has always targeted that 18-24 demographic. Boxing doesn't target that demo.
Casual Sports fans don't care about boxing, unless it includes Mayweather or Pacquiao
Boxing will be in trouble once Mayweather and Pacquiao step away though, it will be a "DOWN PERIOD" but somebody new will emerge...HOPEFULLY, I don't see that next athlete consistently doing 1 Million PPV Buys like Mayweather and Pacquiao though
Networks and Promoters need step up how the promote fighters, UFC fighters are becoming more Popular then Boxers, UFC has Jon Jones as the face of their Brand and he is only 24 years old which means he is going to be around for a VERY LONG TIME and will continue to grow into a Superstar and a HUGE DRAW
Why haven't boxing been able to build up that "NEXT BIG THING" or create a buzz for that next big thing in boxing, even with them trying to HYPE Canelo...only boxing fans know Canelo, if you don't follow boxing you have no clue who he is
He says no new stars being built .
Dont argue with him that alone tells you hes a clueless idiot that does not follow this sport
Yeah, I don't get that statement. Even if you want to focus on just American stars, you still have guys like Broner and Andre Ward who draw good crowds in their hometowns. When/if Ward ever switches to HBO I think he'll become a legit star. I can see him being marketed as a Sugar Ray Leonard type fighter. Clean cut, patriotic, and well spoken.
Hmmm the average boxing champion makes more money than the average MMA champion. A guy like Bradley who is virtually unknown to mainstream sport fans made 2.5 mil in his last fight, correct me if I'm wrong but I think that's higher than any fight purse in the history of MMA.
You say no new stars are created well look at the crowds Saul Alvarez and Julio Cesar Chavez Jr draw in mexico when they fight. And they're both in their early 20s.
james toney got $750000 to fight couture while randy got $250000 purse & $200000 win bonus...to think people laughed at toney.LOL! he was the only one laughing all the way to the bank!
no the issue is all the klitschko fanboys with 5 alts who answer their own threads & posts are banned. i think it's funny. that is why the threads are slow these days. there isn't 1700007578384754884 threads about the klitschkos anymore.
I remember when I was on here back in 2005 and 06 and people were saying watch how big boxing grows because the internet just starting booming as a social hub with Myspace and other things, I remember people were saying back in 05 that boxing will be back on mainstream TV before MMA, and now UFC is on FOX :(. and now its 2012 and there has been no significant growth at all. No new stars are being built, and it seems the only way a fighter can make money is if they fight Floyd or Manny, that shows you how horrible a business model boxing is.
Hmmm the average boxing champion makes more money than the average MMA champion. A guy like Bradley who is virtually unknown to mainstream sport fans made 2.5 mil in his last fight, correct me if I'm wrong but I think that's higher than any fight purse in the history of MMA.
You say no new stars are created well look at the crowds Saul Alvarez and Julio Cesar Chavez Jr draw in mexico when they fight. And they're both in their early 20s.
It's not like it was in the 70's and 80's, but just look at the PPV numbers for boxing vs. MMA........Boxing still makes way more money than the MMA/UFC does.
That's because NBA is the only one american league more popular than boxing globally. No way MBL and NFL are more popular than boxing on the internet (=worlwide) In the US are more popular though, but I cant say the name of a NFL star, and I'm no joking. My friends know pacquiao, mayweather, maravilla and nonito, but they can't say the name of a MBL player, and I think this is usual all over europe.
I remember when I was on here back in 2005 and 06 and people were saying watch how big boxing grows because the internet just starting booming as a social hub with Myspace and other things, I remember people were saying back in 05 that boxing will be back on mainstream TV before MMA, and now UFC is on FOX :(. and now its 2012 and there has been no significant growth at all. No new stars are being built, and it seems the only way a fighter can make money is if they fight Floyd or Manny, that shows you how horrible a business model boxing is.
Those people must not have been hip to boxing history, if boxing is anything it is slow to embrace change. The internet is a useful tool but only if properly taken advantage of, just look at the top two companies what do they do to really market online or even the smaller fries which you would figure would be keen on the medium you hear even less from them online than the big two.
It is funny UFC got on network TV, now you see their new commercials pumping up PPV as the purest way to watch UFC. That shows me they didn't fully think things through before going on network TV not relizing how it would effect their bread and butter money maker.
ugggh, which NFL / Baseball forums are more popular than NSB?
The only sports forum is RealGM where Basketball is #1
NFL and MLB have ******rtsdaily but 90% of the subforums are dead and main forums only get used during playoffs and big games
The forums do kind of reflect the popularity of the sport overall, the internet makes it much easier to follow and keep track of the sport as a whole, but truly following boxing still takes a ton of effort and most people don't want to invest the time. New people can come but most people don't like to look like tools or idiots, and it is real easy to get made a fool of coming to talk boxing without proper knowledge.
Some people will use this as motivation to learn more about the sport but most I would figure would be like screw it and either leave or just lurk.
Still though this site always used to crash when there was a big fight so there is/was a ton of traffic.
I remember when I was on here back in 2005 and 06 and people were saying watch how big boxing grows because the internet just starting booming as a social hub with Myspace and other things, I remember people were saying back in 05 that boxing will be back on mainstream TV before MMA, and now UFC is on FOX :(. and now its 2012 and there has been no significant growth at all. No new stars are being built, and it seems the only way a fighter can make money is if they fight Floyd or Manny, that shows you how horrible a business model boxing is.
i think it would do better ratings if fights weren't restricted to friday and saturday NIGHTS. it doesn't help the situation that if you want to see a good fight you have to make a vacation out of it. people go to basketball/baseball/hockey games on random weeknights, what would be the difference with going to see some boxing? they just need to take the show on the road and bring it to the people instead of making the people come to vegas etc.