In the 2009 negotiations with Pac, Floyd reportedly wanted to use 10 oz gloves in a division where 8 oz is the norm. Now, at 154 against Cotto where 10 oz gloves is the standard, Floyd asked for 8 oz gloves.
Can someone explain and give a rational reason for this strange turnabout?
It's Nevada State wants WW's wear 10oz unless both fighters agree to 8oz gloves... Floyd never wanted 10oz gloves in fact he agreed with the 8oz gloves request by Pacquiao.
End of story.
The TS is ignorant
I think he wanted 10 ounce gloves for Pac to reduce Pac's punching power since it was unlikely that he would KO Pac but Pac might hurt him.I think he wants to KO Cotto either by cuts or lots of clean punches. The 8 ounce gloves should help Cotto's power too, as he has a very hard jab and left hook to the body and head. Floyd reminds me of Leonard, wanting every edge possible.
BINGO!! Another WINNER!!
You nailed it, "wanting every edge possible".
I think he wanted 10 ounce gloves for Pac to reduce Pac's punching power since it was unlikely that he would KO Pac but Pac might hurt him.I think he wants to KO Cotto either by cuts or lots of clean punches. The 8 ounce gloves should help Cotto's power too, as he has a very hard jab and left hook to the body and head. Floyd reminds me of Leonard, wanting every edge possible.
You god damn idiot. Floyd agreed to 8oz gloves with Pacquiao, and he wants 8oz gloves with Cotto as well.
That's all there is to it.
Stop with the stupid threads.
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Enz know whats up!!!....we call that being a "step ahead" where I'm from....make the other dude THINK he's getting what he want....but in REALITY their wants are the same...8 oz hand warmers a phone booth and half and a weight limit of 147.....the testing request was the ONLY request...everyting else was common fukin sense imo
I can see alot of cats never sat down and politiced a deal...it was OBVIOUS Floyd was playing chess....he got away with that because his opposition are stuck on checkers....NOW it looks like Floyd agreed to all MANNY'S demands and innocent Floyd had one lousy request :lol1:....yea ok!!....Floyd's request was the ONLY request....just come up outta the matrix and read between the lines...you'll see!!
now thats been established, I still don't know how Floyd KNEW Manny was gonna decline!!....I mean, like seriously...if the tests had gotten accepted by Team Pac the fight would've popped off imo
A request can be negotiated. The ost was a demand, it was either ost or no fight>
Incorrect!! Inform yourself a bit better
In Nevada, WW's wear 10oz unless both fighters agree to 8oz gloves
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=3365846
You are right, but when I used the word norm I actually meant the usual.
How would you interpret this report from Ben Thompson?
It said: " As for the weight, although there were initial reports that team Mayweather wanted the bout to take place at 154, both fighters will indeed meet at the WW limit...."
Did Thompson say 'rumors' or did he say reports?
http://www.boxingscene.com/mayweather-wants-pacquiao-154-wants-10oz-gloves--23910
So in the haters union. I assume you get retirement credits for every lying hateful post?
That COULD be true, but we don't KNOW that to be the factual reason, now do we kind sir? Speculation. I rest my case. The same principal applies for your question(s).
How would you interpret this report from Ben Thompson?
It said: " As for the weight, although there were initial reports that team Mayweather wanted the bout to take place at 154, both fighters will indeed meet at the WW limit...."
Did Thompson say 'rumors' or did he say reports?
http://www.boxingscene.com/mayweather-wants-pacquiao-154-wants-10oz-gloves--23910
Floyd reportedly wanted to use 10 oz gloves in a division where 8 oz is the norm.
Incorrect!! Inform yourself a bit better
In Nevada, WW's wear 10oz unless both fighters agree to 8oz gloves
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=3365846
I think 154 and 10oz gloves was a starting point for negotiations. I don't think Floyd ever really expected to get those things. I don't know why he's gone for 8oz gloves, given his brittle hands and that Cotto is supposedly the puncher. Maybe he's planning on beating Cotto up like he did Gatti.
Enz know whats up!!!....we call that being a "step ahead" where I'm from....make the other dude THINK he's getting what he want....but in REALITY their wants are the same...8 oz hand warmers a phone booth and half and a weight limit of 147.....the testing request was the ONLY request...everyting else was common fukin sense imo
I can see alot of cats never sat down and politiced a deal...it was OBVIOUS Floyd was playing chess....he got away with that because his opposition are stuck on checkers....NOW it looks like Floyd agreed to all MANNY'S demands and innocent Floyd had one lousy request :lol1:....yea ok!!....Floyd's request was the ONLY request....just come up outta the matrix and read between the lines...you'll see!!
now thats been established, I still don't know how Floyd KNEW Manny was gonna decline!!....I mean, like seriously...if the tests had gotten accepted by Team Pac the fight would've popped off imo
You know that Pac's fight with Cotto was his first real fight with a WW and the champion at that, right? And Clottey was his second after proving to himself that he can mix it up with the big guys, right?That COULD be true, but we don't KNOW that to be the factual reason, now do we kind sir? Speculation. I rest my case. The same principal applies for your question(s).
I remember when the article/audio interview of Ariza bashing Arum came out and Tatangb45 didn't believe the source of the article to be credible. Then when Tatang heard Ariza's voice on audio bashing Arum, he thought it was someone "acting" to be Ariza, but not really him.
Now as soon as he see's an article bashing Floyd, all of a sudden it's quoted for truth.
The nerve of this guy.
Are you sure that was me? Show me the link so I can be reminded.
I've read all 15 pages surprisingly, Haha! Anyway, TS....You're question does NOT even have a definitive answer, and that's even IF it's true, which given the FACT we don't KNOW it's true, doesn't mean you go on and believe everything you read and/or hear, OR COMPLETELY dismiss it as non-truth.
The average individual with COMMON SENSE would generally just dismiss the whole claim all together, based on 0 proof, END OF STORY. Someone could raise the SAME questions regarding Pacquiao man! Why did Pacquiao ask for a catchweight of 145 against Cotto, but then in his very next fight be okay with the full 147 limit against Clottey?! s-p-e-c-u-l-a-t-i-o-n.
Just 'cause Victor Conte said in a radio show interview that the fact Pacquiao has come up in weight and seemed to of increased in his overall performance and workrate is, and I quote "Yes, it is at the VERY least, HIGHLY suspicious". So, I say AGAIN, SPECULATION, cut and dried.
As I always say, believe Nothing of what you hear, and only half of what you see. Just stop with these gymnastic stunts in trying to degrade Mayweather. The FACT is in his most recent fights against Mosley AND Ortiz, who are huge punchers, were both fought with 8oz gloves, with ZERO reports of Mayweather EVER asking for 10oz gloves in pre-fight negotiations for those fights, period. Just drop it, man. There is virtually no answer to your question due to the fact it is all SPECULATION, period. Now, just drop it for Christ's sake.
You know that Pac's fight with Cotto was his first real fight with a WW and the champion at that, right? And Clottey was his second after proving to himself that he can mix it up with the big guys, right?
Action speaks louder than words.
A rumour comes out saying Floyd wants 10 oz, yet he agrees to 8oz gloves. (A case of action speaking louder than baseless words)
A rumour comes out that Pac is juicing in '09. Pac denies, refuses to take a test for 2 years. Says he'll take a test now. But still hasn't. He still hasn't demonstrated action speaks louder than his words.
How come you believe Pac when he says that he's clean. But still to undergoe random drug testing. Yet when Roach allegedly claims Floyd wanted 10 oz, you'll take fully on the chin. Even though, Floyd agreed to using 8 oz gloves. And has said a 100 times over after the De La Hoya fight, he hated using 10 oz gloves because they felt like pillows. Why not judge fairly? Why the extra nitpicking? What good does it serve you?
Destroyed.
What a silly question. So he denied hitting his girlfriend, then why did he not deny the reports of 2009?
So you choose to believe what you want to believe lol
Good luck with that :fing02:
:rofl:
Is that all you can come back with now?!
Is this what you've been reduced to?!
He's scared, she's scared..
Haha!
You're done son!
You're done!
I'm out.
Floyd himself made it very clear.
SELF PRESERVATION first and foremost! He does not want to end up like Ali.