Is JMM still using the same strength coach?

Are you referring to me? I just find it funny that Mayweather and Marquez fans accuse Manny of using because of suspicious circumstances surrounding his strength trainer and performance and ignore this Marquez situation. Im not a fan of either to be honest and I'm not saying that either man is definitely using or not using. I think the reasons for that is because JMM already had two tough fights with Pac before this last one, so it was "believable" this fight was tough too. Also, this is just one fight for JMM with that conditioning coach. Pac has had a lot of success in multiple fights with Ariza. That makes a difference as to how the two situations are viewed, IMO.

well It was a conflict of Interest when Team Pacman initially raised concerns over his PED past.But Marquez said he is willing to do extra Testing to prove he is clean,as long as Manny takes the same Test. So Team Pacman quickly aborted the script once they knew they might be asked to TAKE THE TEST. Its not the first Time there has been a conflict of Interest in Pac's team. They wanted Mosley to take extra Test coz of his PED past,but once Shane said he is willing to Take the Test as long as Pac takes his,they quickly changed the subject. So please wake me up once Team Pacman willfully takes the Test to prove how clean they are. The fight against Bradly could have been used to clear the Air by having both guys Take the Test,but as per usual Pacman does not Take the Test. As they say,where ever there is smoke there is fire. LOL, i remember hearing shane talk about this in a video interview a little while before see'ing any threads about it pacquiao said it jokingly and mosley responded playin along "well if i gotta so do you" and they laughed it off and then came the roger and other reporter articles giving off the wrong impression

Marquez's trainer went on record to say he has no problem with any type of testing, whenever or whatever they want, he'll do. That doesn't mean much coming from a guy like him especially when he knew team Pac wasnt going to call him out on that statement.

Are you referring to me? I just find it funny that Mayweather and Marquez fans accuse Manny of using because of suspicious circumstances surrounding his strength trainer and performance and ignore this Marquez situation. Im not a fan of either to be honest and I'm not saying that either man is definitely using or not using. Marquez's trainer went on record to say he has no problem with any type of testing, whenever or whatever they want, he'll do.

Oh how the boxing boards would be filled with haters if Pacman was caught just having dinner or a photo circulated with Pacman and Conte in the same room.. But here you have Marquez actually working with Angel (Balco) Hernandez during his training for Pac..

Is Marquez still using that shady strength coach from the 3rd Pac fight? Am I the only one who finds this dude suspicious? Marquez + Angel (PED-Balco) Hernandez = No accusations of PED's Pacquiao + No proof of PED's + No association of working with PED experts + Floyd accusing Pac of PED's = Raises a red flag and makes Pacman guilty I just dont get it.

Is Marquez still using that shady strength coach from the 3rd Pac fight? Am I the only one who finds this dude suspicious? marquez is trying to keep quiet on that one and would prefer to keep whining about losing another close one to pacquiao i also find that strength coach suspicious...the guy is a former ped dealer who ratted out other ped dealers....marquez's body look a lot different than it did against floyd...just saying

It was actually Victor Conte was the one who pointed out. Not Ariza or team Pac. It was Conte who made it known. If it wasn't for Conte no one would have known about it. Ariza brought it out minimally around the same time too, but he didn't go hard with the info like Conte did. And Ariza mentioned some information that even Conte admitted he didn't know (like how Memo is behind the success of Usain Bolt and other Jamaican track stars). So I wouldn't go as far as saying if it wasn't for Conte, no one would had known about it... But maybe it wouldn't have gotten half the attention it did without Conte. :)

So your overall point is that one is better than cheating than the other. OK. No, my overall point was that it's a useless discussion since neither Pacquaio nor Marquez are going to demand OSDT. And I was basically mentioning that this issue has already been discussed on the forum.

One of the guys Ariza has brought in as a strength and conditioning consultant on multiple occasions for Pacquiao is Trevor Graham. He is perma-banned from training Olympic athletes for his involvement in BALCO. It should be noted that he was one of the whistle blowers on the whole BALCO thing, however. article? proof?.....i google and find nada takes me to boxingscene and e a s tsideboxing with posters saying it's fake

hopefully........he looked great with him.

Marquez not only worked with Conte for his last fight with Pacquiao, he also had a full team of doctors and nutritionists who were helping him to get into massive shape. He completely changed his diet and improved his habits and we all know that everything went well for him.

I didnt really catch all of the 24/7 episodes but i heard that marquez was able to silence all the allegations by simly saying on an episose "test me" after that there was no noise. But i do agree with one of the posters that said it was only to draw ratings and have more ppl tune into the fight.

Are you referring to me? I just find it funny that Mayweather and Marquez fans accuse Manny of using because of suspicious circumstances surrounding his strength trainer and performance and ignore this Marquez situation. Im not a fan of either to be honest and I'm not saying that either man is definitely using or not using. What are you talkin about? During the Marquez vs. Pacquaio 3 time, there were a lot of folks here discussing it. Where were you? At the end of the day, it's useless to talk about because we all know Pacquaio is not going to demand OSTD for his fights. The Pacquaio camp were well-aware of Memo's history and present history. And despite that, they still did not demand any particular testing. And Marquez seemed not to be bothered about the allegations regarding Pacquaio. And as far as strength and conditioning trainers go -- Memo is superior to Ariza. Memo has his clients winning gold medals with record breaking timing using who knows what. Haha.

JMM wouldnt have no promblem if we go by PAC VS JMM 3 when they where asking JMM to take a test he had no promblem doing them. the ones who had a problem was Pac team it was up to them to agree becauces JMM was willing to do the test Well when he was with Conte he beat the Olympic testers so guess he would have no problem with these little tests.

yeah he is using the same strength and conditioning coach. hes actually like his 2nd coach or something. he was at the presser with marquez too. Conte is dirty as **** too but nobody brings that up either. if u ask me i wld hire marquez's coach over all of them. the dude sounds extremely knowledgable in his interviews.

Is Marquez still using that shady strength coach from the 3rd Pac fight? Am I the only one who finds this dude suspicious? Well being involved with Conte and the whole Balco thing made me a tad suspicious, wasn't he banned as well and used different names. Alarm bells should be ringing. And we all know Marquez will drink anything to give him a edge:peeright:

Ariza's shakes are more suspicious along with his PED link history.

If I was in team Rios I would make the request for the July fight. If Marquez and his team accepts without hesitation than I think suspicion would go away. JMM wouldnt have no promblem if we go by PAC VS JMM 3 when they where asking JMM to take a test he had no promblem doing them. the ones who had a problem was Pac team it was up to them to agree becauces JMM was willing to do the test

but here is the thing that matters when JMM was ask to take a test HE SAID BRING IT YOU FOCKS unlike Pac who back out and shut his mouth real quick. HE knew If JMM took the test he was going to have to take the test also. SO Pac team no longer push the issue If I was in team Rios I would make the request for the July fight. If Marquez and his team accepts without hesitation than I think suspicion would go away.