Pacquiao doesn't get enough credit for Marquez fights

they only fougth JMM becaues they thougth he was old look at the video 53 mark i give him no credit plus i had Pac loseing anyway. He got a gif he should be happy they saved his big payday with Floyd Mayweather CHERRY PICKING AT ITS FINEST.... STARTING AT 0:53 MARK TRANSLATION " We thought his age caught up to him, but just in case that wasnt enough, we had him come up x2 divisions to fight pac..... I mean we all know PAC can make 140 easily, so we had him come to 147 so we could murder him. You know Pac has been talking with God a lot lately and in all honesty even ARIZA will tell ya, not even God can save Marquez." Ariza: " IT'S TRUE!!!! Not even God can save Marquez from what Pac is gonna do to him.... I know I havent been really doing my job,a nd manny has been cramping and looking bad in fights, but hey, we have this one rigged to make PAC look like a goddamn MONSTA!!!" POST FIGHT: DRAW YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS...LMAO

Pacquiao got his ass handed to him by a slow 40 year old, pudgy lightweight who had to move up 2 divisions just so Pacquiao would be convinced that there'd be no chance in hell he'd lose a round and possibly win by KO. Team Pacquaio predicted a knockout win, Ariza even had the nerve to say god himself couldn't help JMM this time around. Talk about cherry pick gone horribly wrong.:lol1: LMAO, PRETTY MUCH. The win was questionable, and thats not what you expect from the P4P best in boxing. Especially the P4P best having a fighter come up x2 divisions to fight you and this time you dont even knock him down.... I honestly think Marquez is about to look bad in his next fight. Mark my words...... But people still wont put 2 and 2 together.

Pacquiao got his ass handed to him by a slow 40 year old, pudgy lightweight who had to move up 2 divisions just so Pacquiao would be convinced that there'd be no chance in hell he'd lose a round and possibly win by KO. Team Pacquaio predicted a knockout win, Ariza even had the nerve to say god himself couldn't help JMM this time around. Talk about cherry pick gone horribly wrong.:lol1:

yes, this is so true... pac fought a guy who is a nightmare for his style, pac is tailor made for marquez, and if marquez is that great then it would have been easy work for him already.. im not saying this to discredit marquez also, but it is true that eventhough pac is tailor made for marquez he was able to manage to make the fights close and even convincing the judges, fans may interpret it whatever they want but the truth it is close, some guys who are tailor made for the other guy just get KOed easily, and that is what amaze me because pac made it close and make it exciting wars.... marquez is great, but pac deserves a lot of credit for these, and not get bashed because pretty boy just toyed marquez whom he has all the advantage... they only fougth JMM becaues they thougth he was old look at the video 53 mark i give him no credit plus i had Pac loseing anyway. He got a gif he should be happy they saved his big payday with Floyd Mayweather

Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Wales Posts: 9,856 Rep Power: 27 Points: 314,255,648.76 Bank: 10,326,813,273.46 Total Points: 10,641,068,922.22 Donate Pacquiao doesn't get enough credit for Marquez fights It was quite clear after the 1st fight that Marquez had solved his style and would always give him hell of a fight no matter what but he went on to fight him 2 more times despite being a much bigger draw than him. Pacquiao gets hated a lot because Arum has given him undesirable fights but he deserves credit for taking on his biggest rival 3 times despite always being at a technical disadvantage. A lot of big stars have gone through their careers without giving someone who they beat in a close fight a rematch e.g De La Hoya with Whitaker, Quartey, Sturm. yes, this is so true... pac fought a guy who is a nightmare for his style, pac is tailor made for marquez, and if marquez is that great then it would have been easy work for him already.. im not saying this to discredit marquez also, but it is true that eventhough pac is tailor made for marquez he was able to manage to make the fights close and even convincing the judges, fans may interpret it whatever they want but the truth it is close, some guys who are tailor made for the other guy just get KOed easily, and that is what amaze me because pac made it close and make it exciting wars.... marquez is great, but pac deserves a lot of credit for these, and not get bashed because pretty boy just toyed marquez whom he has all the advantage...

FREDDIE ROACH ADMITS he thought JMM age was going to cacth up to him. so the only reason they fought him was becaues they thought he was past it CHERRYPICK GONE WRONG skip to 53 mark on the the video

9-3 or 8-4 every single time i watch it pretty horrible fight, too. making a fight like that exciting is the responsibility of the aggressor. marquez winning a pacquiao fight? probably not a barnburner. 38 year old counterpuncher without any of the physical advantages That is still crazy to me. I can't fathom scoring that fight that one sided for either guy. No matter how many times I see someone say they had it that way, I never come close to scoring it like that.

Did you watch the fights BEFORE OR AFTER you heard both sides of the controversy? If its after, do you think you really weren't affected by the politics? If you two times had it for Marquez, it says more about you for flip-flopping than it does about the one performance that Marquez gave. In boxing like politics, you only get one vote. You voted twice for Marquez and then thought about it for a while and then gave it to Pacquiao after considering what was said. Hmmm ... You've never done that with a fight, where you had it scored one way, but scored it differently when you went back later? I've done that a few times, sometimes you are watching with a bias one time, and not later. Doesn't mean you're flip flopping or thinking of what others thought, just means you saw something looking at it a different way. Sometimes you're biased the first time, sometimes you aren't really scoring it the first time, stuff like that.

lol he gave a split decision for marquez single handedly. when you aren't trolling you're a good poster. tell me, are you sctrojans? I swear sometimes he's like a professor while other times he leaves you scratching your head!!

Actually I didn't, he's an idiot. I stopped reading anything he says awhile back. Just like you and Brother Jay. If I see one of your post is more than 2 sentences, I won't waste my time reading it. You did read it, and you do realize that it doesnt matter if you read what I state or not right??? Im an adult not a teenager like you. I dont get mad because some guy I dont really even know says I dont read what you post...LMAO.... You guys kill me with that. i dont know you guys. I could careless if you logged onto boxingscene this morning, or if you were late for work.... I think you talk a lot of sh@t but I still read everyones posts on here. Its nothing to get upset about. I do hope that you are a youngster though and not a butthurt adult... That is just sad as hell if you are over 18 years of age. AND YOU KNOW WHAT??? http://www.80stees.com/images/products/Rocky_Clubber_Lang_Dont_Give_Me_No_Backtalk_Sucka-T-link.jpg You did read it, and you responded SUCKA!!!

You do realize that JMM was trying to get a rematch immediately, right? Does anyone think its a coincidence that the last fighter rated in the top 3 of any division that Pacquiao fought was JMM in 2008 .. and then the next top 3 rated fighter Manny faced AFTER that was JMM in 2011? Its doesn't sound like Manny just avoided Juan Manuel Marquez ... it appears that Pacquiao avoided ANY top 3 rated fighter PERIOD! Wow. And if that wasn't bad enough, every fighter that Pacquiao faced since Diaz was coming off of a huge loss excluding meaningless tune ups .. until he fought JMM in 2011!!! If you have the education, do the math. Wow, wasnt cotto top 3 WW? Wasnt hatton no1 LWW? So i think your trolling troll? DLH, Cotto, Hatton, Clottey are a far more dangerous quartet than Floyds wife who seems to be only Floyds opponent in that space of time. So your stretching it a bit with your beliefs on Pac. JMM begged Pac for a fight your right, and thats why Pac took JMM as Floyd ducked Pac. So Pac could fit JMM into his scedule.

Did you watch the fights BEFORE OR AFTER you heard both sides of the controversy? If its after, do you think you really weren't affected by the politics? If you two times had it for Marquez, it says more about you for flip-flopping than it does about the one performance that Marquez gave. In boxing like politics, you only get one vote. You voted twice for Marquez and then thought about it for a while and then gave it to Pacquiao after considering what was said. Hmmm ... lol he gave a split decision for marquez single handedly. when you aren't trolling you're a good poster. tell me, are you sctrojans?

Most of the boxing world, including boxers and writers, had Marquez winning the 3rd fight. Guess they don't know anything about scoring fights either? 9-3 or 8-4 every single time i watch it pretty horrible fight, too. making a fight like that exciting is the responsibility of the aggressor. marquez winning a pacquiao fight? probably not a barnburner. 38 year old counterpuncher without any of the physical advantages

These Pac haters write their own script. They make out as if Pac waited 3 years and then called JMM out? When the reality is we know it is JMM was like a fly around a cows backside around manny calling Pac out. Wearing t ****s with i beat Pac twice, similar to haye wearing t shirt of klitscho head in his hands. Pac beat JMM twice and didnt want him again. JMM should have wore "floyd bloated me up tshirts" to try and get a rematch with floyd. JMM wouldnt go away. We know JMM trained for Pac for years, like Floyd trained for JMM for 2 years, whereas Pac was sidetracked didnt expect to be fighting JMM. But thought he could just turn up on the night and hit JMM and hed sleep.

FREDDIE ROACH ADMITS he thought JMM age was going to cacth up to him. so the only reason they fought him was becaues they thought he was past it CHERRYPICK GONE WRONG skip to 53 mark on the the video

Its hard to get credit while loosing a fight and getting a gift split D again. Credit needs to be earned.

You don't need a rematch when you beat someone decisively, like Floyd-JMM or the fight was scripted like Clottey-Manny. You dont need a rematch when you beat someone decisively? Is that a new rule in the floyd fanatic rulebook? Even if a fight is close there is no NEED to have a rematch, but you have one as you want one! Many fighters have lost convincly but were given rematches as they wanted another chance to redeem themselves. So Pac didnt beat Barrera convincly, yet gave him a rematch? Didnt morales beat Pac unanimous decision, yet gave Pac a rematch? Pac improved and won. JMM can improve and hed win against Floyd. Thats how it works. Floyd has got an empty diary most of the times so why no rematch if he isnt fighting anyone else dangerous, or even fighting anyone. Rematches make sense, a whole load of sense.

that was more marquez's choice than the other way around marquez ducked the immediate rematch The first time he did, yes. But they could've got it done another time and Pacquiao ducked the immediate rematch after the 2nd fight.

Floyd wont give JMM a rematch as hes scared hed lose the rematch. Floyd knows just cos he had a great night, and JMM had an off bloated night having had 2 great nights against Pac, it doesnt garantee victory. Floyd knows this, but his fans dont seem to. Floyd could potentially have 2 wins over JMM which is better than one win but he wont risk it. One win a piece is too scary for floyd. You don't need a rematch when you beat someone decisively, like Floyd-JMM or the fight was scripted like Clottey-Manny.

He fought him 4 years apart each time thinking Marquez was old and easy pickings :lol1: that was more marquez's choice than the other way around marquez ducked the immediate rematch