The media, fans, Freddie Roach and even Bob Arum had all said that that Mosley no longer had it, that he was Shot.
So why didn't Pacquiao take that chance to go after a young hungry lion like Andre Berto or someone else?
Can't be money, because Berto has 10 times as big of a following as Bradley could even dream of.
And show me where Floyd admitted he cherry picks?Last time i checked it was Pac who is the one that cherry picked his way to 8 championships.
He never fought Juan Guzman.After Zahir Raheem beat a past his prime Morales Pacquiao chose Morales instead of Raheem and Made him drain himself to come down to 130.When Pac jumped to 135 he avoided Nate Campbell who had 3 belts and who was the best 135 pounder in favor of Diaz who had one belt and a was a mediocre boxer.
When Hatton Jumped up to 140 he fought Hatton for a bs title as opposed to Timothy bradley who had a major title and was terrorizing the division and undefeated.Pac fought a weight drained Oscar instead of going up to his weight class,He also weight drained Cotto instead of meeting him at 147,Pac avoided the beltholder Yuri Foreman cause he `s not a stupid straight forward fighter and fought the stupid bum Margarito for a vacant wbc junior middleweight belt at a catchweight of 150.And Margarito came off a knockout loss to Mosley and a win over over a bum.Sergio Martinez called Pac out and and said he will meet Pac at 150 but Pac avoided him.
What?
- Manny's had just moved up and lost to Morales yet you wanted him to move up again to 135 to fight Raheem? Really?
- Manny fought once at 135lbs and beat a champ who also beat Morales .... so if Manny didn't fight Diaz, you probably would be saying that Manny was scared to take on the fighter that beat Morales just like you said about Raheem. Again, Manny moved up and fought a champ who beat Morales in his FIRST fight at 135!!! Not too shabby!
- Oscar called out Manny so who can blame him for not fighting those who you named?
- You said, "Manny fought a Hatton who jumped to 140 for a BS title instead of Bradley?"
Man you have all this wrong!!! 140 was Hatton's career weight and was KING there and was well established .... Bradley hadn't fought a lot of his big fights yet when Manny fought a Hatton that had just fought Floyd" What you talking about?
- Cotto was not weight drained when he fought Manny .... Cotto came in on his own at 146 the previous fight .... but what does that have to do with cherry picking?
- Fighting a career 147lb Margarito at 150 gave him a bonus of 3lbs ... the only thing to question there was the title.
- Besides Manny saying he will not fight over 147 against anyone .... Sergio at 150lbs is bull and you know it so why even bring that joke up? Either you are OK with CWs or you are not .... but Sergio and 150 is more bull than Margarito at 150 but you brought it up to make a point ... that is crazy stuff right there!
Floyd admitting to Cherry picking? Floyd said it several times .... to Costas and when he said he doesn't need to fight the best now because he is getting older ...
And show me where Floyd admitted he cherry picks?Last time i checked it was Pac who is the one that cherry picked his way to 8 championships.
He never fought Juan Guzman.After Zahir Raheem beat a past his prime Morales Pacquiao chose Morales instead of Raheem and Made him drain himself to come down to 130.When Pac jumped to 135 he avoided Nate Campbell who had 3 belts and who was the best 135 pounder in favor of Diaz who had one belt and a was a mediocre boxer.
When Hatton Jumped up to 140 he fought Hatton for a bs title as opposed to Timothy bradley who had a major title and was terrorizing the division and undefeated.Pac fought a weight drained Oscar instead of going up to his weight class,He also weight drained Cotto instead of meeting him at 147,Pac avoided the beltholder Yuri Foreman cause he `s not a stupid straight forward fighter and fought the stupid bum Margarito for a vacant wbc junior middleweight belt at a catchweight of 150.And Margarito came off a knockout loss to Mosley and a win over over a bum.Sergio Martinez called Pac out and and said he will meet Pac at 150 but Pac avoided him.
The fact you expected Pacquiao to move up to 154 after having fought at 130 a few months before he signed to fight Oscar says you probably only started following boxing very recently and your knowledge needs alot of work. And Bradley over the lineal champ Hatton, that's a laugh. Honestly, you should shut up and stop embarrassing yourself.
Here's a history lesson for you, did you know Oscar De La Hoya was scheduled to fight Floyd Mayweather in September 2008 at 147 before Mayweather retired and Oscar went looking elsewhere and so chose the 130lber P4P #1 instead of Cotto or Margarito thinking it would be the easiest fight? Did you know Oscar was planning on fighting Ricky Hatton at 140 or a 147 catchweight after Pacquiao?
Here it is from De La Hoya's mouth:
http://cointry.blogspot.com.au/2008/11/de-la-hoya-to-weigh-less-than-pacquiao.html
Next time do some research before you spout your garbage. Fanboys like you investing boxing boards is why I hardly visit them anymore.
At least you had a comment on this one .....
but
Floyd called out Mosley when he was moving up ..... but Floyd calling out people's name doesn't mean anything .... "MANNY YOU ARE NEXT" .... "YOU TAKE THE TEST AND WE HAVE A FIGHT"
I wasn't overwhelmed with Manny picking Mosley either .... but I do remember that until Manny picked Mosley, Floyd fans were calling him scared ... but I said, no point now ... Mosley was old against Floyd so .... he is still old.
I call it the way I see it .... FACTS BABY! I admit things even when its Manny but after Floyd admitted to cherry picking how can Floyd fans defend that? That is just too hilarious!!! :boxing:
And show me where Floyd admitted he cherry picks?Last time i checked it was Pac who is the one that cherry picked his way to 8 championships.
He never fought Juan Guzman.After Zahir Raheem beat a past his prime Morales Pacquiao chose Morales instead of Raheem and Made him drain himself to come down to 130.When Pac jumped to 135 he avoided Nate Campbell who had 3 belts and who was the best 135 pounder in favor of Diaz who had one belt and a was a mediocre boxer.
When Hatton Jumped up to 140 he fought Hatton for a bs title as opposed to Timothy bradley who had a major title and was terrorizing the division and undefeated.Pac fought a weight drained Oscar instead of going up to his weight class,He also weight drained Cotto instead of meeting him at 147,Pac avoided the beltholder Yuri Foreman cause he `s not a stupid straight forward fighter and fought the stupid bum Margarito for a vacant wbc junior middleweight belt at a catchweight of 150.And Margarito came off a knockout loss to Mosley and a win over over a bum.Sergio Martinez called Pac out and and said he will meet Pac at 150 but Pac avoided him.
So if We are saying Mosley was shot for the Floyd fight then was he shot for margarito?
and with the way he beat margarito can we assume that Margarito was shot too?
And if Margarito beat cotto should we then assume that cotto was shot when him and margarito fought? Or that this one fight made cotto shot?
wouldnt this make all three of these guys shot before Manny faced them so then should we not count these wins for floyd or Manny?
Bottom line is you can't argue this one way or the other they were either shot for both floyd and Manny or live for both with the only exception being the mora fight for Mosley showing serious drop off.
Do you see how ridiculous this can get?
The old Margarito? Do you mean the one that got caught cheating? Also i remember reading where Cotto said these fights were all that was offered to him by Arum. But now Arum gone and this fight is made. Food for thought
Perhaps Margarito was cheating ... but we will never know for sure ... but Margarito was way more healthy in the previous fight ... Margarito was still able to take everything that Cotto gave and more .... and connected on Cotto much more and walked him down better ...... he did everything way better in that fight than the one that they just fought .... some I credit Cotto for making some adjustments but if one is being objective about it, Margarito from old would have presented a different fight.
I was cheering Cotto all the way in both fights ... but you have to admit, Margarito vs Cotto I, was not the same as Margarito vs Cotto II .... and I will cheer for Cotto against Floyd but I just haven't seen enough of a turnaround from Cotto to say this will be competitive ....
This is B.S, Mosley looked way slower in the Pacquiao fight then he did the Floyd fight.
Also Floyd called out Mosley when he was in his prime and Mosley avoided him.Pacquiao called out Mosley when he was completely shot.
At least you had a comment on this one .....
but
Floyd called out Mosley when he was moving up ..... but Floyd calling out people's name doesn't mean anything .... "MANNY YOU ARE NEXT" .... "YOU TAKE THE TEST AND WE HAVE A FIGHT"
I wasn't overwhelmed with Manny picking Mosley either .... but I do remember that until Manny picked Mosley, Floyd fans were calling him scared ... but I said, no point now ... Mosley was old against Floyd so .... he is still old.
I call it the way I see it .... FACTS BABY! I admit things even when its Manny but after Floyd admitted to cherry picking how can Floyd fans defend that? That is just too hilarious!!! :boxing:
You are full of donkey doo that`s why non *******s don`t take you serious on here.
Nice try .... that's what Floyd fans do when they are presented with FACTS ... they either name call, state that your English is bad or shoot out some off topic comments but never back up their comment with facts of their own ...
because YOU'RE gay
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i already answered all these questions, it's because the TS is gay
you joined in 06 but dont know the answer to this?
pfft
I really pity posters like this.
"shane mosley" is a great name to have under anyone's resume...
like it was for tszyu when he had "julio cesar chavez" under his...
it is not the first time this has occured... this cycle / thing has been happening in boxing a long time...
The media, fans, Freddie Roach and even Bob Arum had all said that that Mosley no longer had it, that he was Shot.
So why didn't Pacquiao take that chance to go after a young hungry lion like Andre Berto or someone else?
Can't be money, because Berto has 10 times as big of a following as Bradley could even dream of.
of course its money. money is the reason for every fight
Pacquiao saw the eye of the tiger in a rejuvenated and dangerous Mosley, so because of Pac's warrior mentality, Pac looked for the best competition he could offer his people.
These guys never get tired of the same arguments. Pac is overrated. Floyd is da best. The solution is obvious. Make them fight. Floyd stans would rather engage in useless debates than call out their idol for being a pu55y. It's a misdirected energy. I for one can agree with you if that will make you happy; Pac is amateurish. He's one-dimensional. He fought washed-up opponents. Okay, I agree.
But what is Floyd waiting for? Make him fight, man, make him fight, so we can end these endless debates.
That's the biggest hole in their argument. No matter what they say it still doesn't resonate when Pac's still being ducked by the best fighter in the world.
Floyd-da-best is still scared of the one-dimensional midget who fought over-the-hill opponents.
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The media, fans, Freddie Roach and even Bob Arum had all said that that Mosley no longer had it, that he was Shot.
So why didn't Pacquiao take that chance to go after a young hungry lion like Andre Berto or someone else?
Can't be money, because Berto has 10 times as big of a following as Bradley could even dream of.
hes fighting bradley now quit crying :bottle:
Remember when they ducked Mosley after Mosley wrecked Margarito? :lol1:
This is an excellent comment because after Mosley destroyed Margarito, Roach and Arum wouldnt let there cash cow fight Mosley anywhere near 147. Check out the roach video called cherry picking and he says it straight on the camera.
because he fought The best IBO jrWW Hatton. And because he fought The best WBO WW,Cotto...a much tougher fighter than Mosley!
Why didnt SSM fight only once in 09? hmmmmm Why did he wait 16 mths to fight Floyd? Oh and shane lost to Cotto..in 07. being shane fights once a year...he fought Mayorga then Margarito. then he had to fight Clottey due to the fact that the Cotto Clottey fight was sooo close and could have gone either way...MaNNY HAD TO FIGHT and beat...both! HEHEHE WHere was Floyd! clucking like a chickinshlt! Waiting on everyone to get old!
No that`s Pac r o i d style and even if a fighter is old and is a threat Pac still wont fight him until he`s completely shot.Example when Pac turned down Mosley after Mosley destroyed Margarito.
These guys never get tired of the same arguments. Pac is overrated. Floyd is da best. The solution is obvious. Make them fight. Floyd stans would rather engage in useless debates than call out their idol for being a pu55y. It's a misdirected energy. I for one can agree with you if that will make you happy; Pac is amateurish. He's one-dimensional. He fought washed-up opponents. Okay, I agree.
But what is Floyd waiting for? Make him fight, man, make him fight, so we can end these endless debates.