How many clinches can a boxer do before he gets DQ?????

He still out landed Kirkland in power punches and total punches, so even when he was clinching all the time he was still landing more punches than Kirkland. He was suppose to, the way he was fighting, he was suppose to. His way of neutralizing Kirkland's offense, 80% of it was through illegal means.

He still out landed Kirkland in power punches and total punches, so even when he was clinching all the time he was still landing more punches than Kirkland. Because Kirkland is an inside fighter. Anytime Molina came withen 5 feet of him, he held for dear life not allowing Kirkland to do anything

It only bothers me depending on the way it's employed. If he's throwing then tying up (Mosley) then I can cope with it. If he's also able to fight in the clinches, work some hooks and uppercuts inside (Ward, Hopkins, Floyd) the better. Now when he's mostly looking to clinch, not run his offense first, spoiling/ running the clock...don't expect me to enjoy that. I liked Molina's performance against Lara and Cintron by the way, but the Kirkland fight was godawful. He still out landed Kirkland in power punches and total punches, so even when he was clinching all the time he was still landing more punches than Kirkland.

Then comparing today's fighters to past greats will be even harder, I say leave it alone, it's all about quality refs really. That's true. The ref should know when to warn and take a point away.

If they really wanted to impliment a new rule to stop it, they should do this.... Use a COMPUCLINCH counter. When a fighter holds or clinches more than 10 times in a round, that's a point deduction. If a fighter holds/clinches more than 10 times a round in more than 3 rounds, automatic DQ. It would stop if that happened. There's natural clinching and holding and then there's the Akinwande, Molina, Ruiz excessive holding. And if you are going to hold and clinch, at least try to work the body and fight on the inside to fight your way out of the clinch. Don't hold the others arm underneath your armpit and hit him, let go and punch, and than hold again. Then comparing today's fighters to past greats will be even harder, I say leave it alone, it's all about quality refs really.

It depends ultimately on the ref pretty much. Each state has a difference tolerance for it but it comes down to if the ref likes them or not. Fokk hopkins, fokk floydina joyce, fokk Molina and all the clinching hugger chickens in the world. This is killing our sport period. please tell me when Floyd clinches habitually

If they really wanted to impliment a new rule to stop it, they should do this.... Use a COMPUCLINCH counter. When a fighter holds or clinches more than 10 times in a round, that's a point deduction. If a fighter holds/clinches more than 10 times a round in more than 3 rounds, automatic DQ. It would stop if that happened. There's natural clinching and holding and then there's the Akinwande, Molina, Ruiz excessive holding. And if you are going to hold and clinch, at least try to work the body and fight on the inside to fight your way out of the clinch. Don't hold the others arm underneath your armpit and hit him, let go and punch, and than hold again.

Watch Lennox Lewis-Henry Akinwande you will have your answer~

I think referees should have the option of just deducting points in a way that wouldn't lead to the fighter getting disqualified. As things stand I think refs are reluctant to penalise fighters for clinching because it would be a horrible contributing factor for a stoppage.

I don't think i've seen any other fighters clinches more than Hopkins and Holyfield. If I'm not mistaken, they haven't been disqualified for overly utilized clinches in any of their professional career bouts.

It only bothers me depending on the way it's employed. If he's throwing then tying up (Mosley) then I can cope with it. If he's also able to fight in the clinches, work some hooks and uppercuts inside (Ward, Hopkins, Floyd) the better. Now when he's mostly looking to clinch, not run his offense first, spoiling/ running the clock...don't expect me to enjoy that. I liked Molina's performance against Lara and Cintron by the way, but the Kirkland fight was godawful.

molina should have at least been deducted a point or two for the holding he was doing...he was also lunging in a lot of times using his head like a spear..

It depends ultimately on the ref pretty much. Each state has a difference tolerance for it but it comes down to if the ref likes them or not. Fokk hopkins, fokk floydina joyce, fokk Molina and all the clinching hugger chickens in the world. This is killing our sport period.

I guess everybody likes hugging lol