Comments Thread For: Froch Believes His Legacy is Better Than That of Calzaghe

Beating Bute means jack, Bute hasn't beating anybody and is a paper champ himself, and timing, well how come Hopkins is 46 and still whupping everyone's ass including Pascal - your best win. Froch got embarrassingly dominated by Ward - end of. Joe was no1 in 2 divisions with a legend on his record and unifications and an unbeating kessler who Froch lost to. Froch lost to the two other best fighters in the division - arguably no 3 not no 1. This must be a JOKE. Having blown up Middleweights and drained LH's on your record doesn't count for all that much, especially when you lose the two fight against genuine SM"s. What does beating Bute prove - he's fought no one and already lost to Andrade

This comment is from Froch is frankly laughable. He's never unified - lost to Kessler their only common opponent. Got dominated by Ward and has never beaten a genuine former SM Champ. The only two Froch's fought he's lost to. All his wins are against blown up Middle's or Light Heavy's. Pascal - LH Champ, struggled with the weight and moved straight up after the fight. Taylor - Former middle, win of his last 8 fights before Froch, well past his best Dirrell - Never been champ, most think he beat Froch, a green 18 fight novice AA - Former Middleweight, lost 3 in a row at SM Johnson - lost and drew with Clinton Woods ffs That's just not a great record when you break it down. A tough run of fights but so has Glen Johnson, it doesn't matter if you lose the most important ones. Calzaghe - two weight undisputed Champ, united twice at SM, held every belt at SM and became undisputed when he beat Kessler. Before stepping up and beating Hopkins the main man at LH for the Ring to become the man at 2 weights.

Calzaghe is an ATG, a true baller...Froch is a wanna be froch might not be the most explosive dynamic player but he's at least in the league most of his career earning the respect of his peers. calzaghe made it to the league on a 6 day contract and did pretty good, but he retired because he was "afraid he might miss his next shot"

calzaghe is like a guy who plays 16 seasons for a team in turkey against bums, then plays 2 games in the nba and retires. Calzaghe is an ATG, a true baller...Froch is a wanna be

Calzaghe is like Kobe and Froch is like Iverson calzaghe is like a guy who plays 16 seasons for a team in turkey against bums, then plays 2 games in the nba and retires.

remember when calzaghe ducked glen johnson a bunch of times. jesus that guy was hilarious.

Calzaghe is like Kobe and Froch is like Iverson

Hatton had every fight barring 1 on sky and the other was on setanta! Froch would of got beat a few times going through joes resume but joe would go through frochs with he's 0 and shut out the cobra. People tripe on about calzaghe been overated and then underate him in the process Froch had more ball`s then Calzage though,Calzage would have never fought Ward,Dirrel or Lucien Bute.

Calzaghe was one of the most overrated fighters ever. He had a protected career only fighting in his home town against nobodies and his claim to fame was beating Hopkins and Roy Jones Jr. in their 40's. Froch is right as far as looking at Calzaghe's record and seeing whose fought and when he fought them.

Everyone on here is nuts, Froch is an overrated BUM. Calzaghe would box circles around Froch and embarass him. The only legit true win for Froch was over Abraham. Froch got a gift decision over Dirrell and Pascal, lost every rd against Taylor and won with 17 seconds left because Taylor gassed, got embarrased by Ward and barely won a decision against Johnson. Froch has a chin NOTHING more...he is pathetically slow, has terrible footwork, no defense, garbage fundamentals, no coordination and he fights like a caveman. I hope Bute KO's this bum. Calzaghe beat a PRIME undefeated Kessler and Froch lost to an older Kessler. Joe beat Bhop more convincingly than anyone other than prime RJJ has, and after that Bhop embarassed a prime Pavlik and beat Pascal twice basically. Joe beat Bika who went on the give Ward and Bute 12 rounds of hell even though he lost. Joe hardly even lost any rounds in his career, much less a fight. Froch is garbage. WAR Bute!

Calzaghe is overrated and fought Roy Jones and Hopkins past their prime. Froch isn't very skilled but is a true champion that fights everyone. Froch>Calzaghe

They're pretty close at this point. I give the edge to Froch who is the more galant champion in my overall view.

My last comment. JCs legacy is that people thought he was the best supermiddlweight of all times and nations. Froch has faced lots of tough competion in the tail end of his career, but after all is said and done, he hasnt earnt himself the reputation as the greatest supermiddle of all time with his good wins and his losses as well. So his legacy on paper isnt better. calzaghe never earned the reputation of greatest supermiddle either. he just had it by default because the division was a wasteland until the super 6. calzaghe was the best supermiddle of his era but calzaghe's era was garbage. froch was the 2nd best of his era but froch's era was much better with more elite fighters that fought each other so froch is better.

My last comment. JCs legacy is that people thought he was the best supermiddlweight of all times and nations. Froch has faced lots of tough competion in the tail end of his career, but after all is said and done, he hasnt earnt himself the reputation as the greatest supermiddle of all time with his good wins and his losses as well. So his legacy on paper isnt better.

This is ludicrous. The only good name on Froch's list is Jermaine Taylor He lost to Kessler, Ward, and Direll (but was gifted with a home decision) and will probably lose to Bute given that he is one of the slowest super-middleweights in existence. How does that compare to an undefeated record which boasts 18 more wins including two over Hopkins and Roy Jones. Its funny to see this sort of conceit from a guy whose career is practically on the line in his next fight. undefeated records with a lot of wins don't mean s-hit. chris john, chavez jr, canelo all have undefeated records with more wins than froch but they are frauds. roy jones was shot and hopkins clearly beat him so not much to brag about there either.

Froch has no legacy and Froch will only be remembered for having a beautiful girlfriend when he is extremely ugly and eagle beaked nosed. Froch was a slow plodding fighter with a big mouth and a bigger snoz. Froch's honker will be remembered not froch. How many times are you going to post the same sh1t?

This thread still going on? So i'll have my last say. JC has been called the best super middlweight of all time, some critics sarcasticly argue "wow considering the super middle division is relatively new its not that great an achievement". But Froch will never be the best super middlweight so its pointless to discuss any further, Frochs legacy isnt better. Hes fought some tough competition back to back which deserves respect, but unless those performances in the fights make you think Froch is the best fighter to come of of England let alone the world the debate cannot go further. Just fighting hard competition doesnt make the legacy like Froch is trying to imply. What happens in the actual fights does count beleive it or not.

This is ludicrous. The only good name on Froch's list is Jermaine Taylor He lost to Kessler, Ward, and Direll (but was gifted with a home decision) and will probably lose to Bute given that he is one of the slowest super-middleweights in existence. How does that compare to an undefeated record which boasts 18 more wins including two over Hopkins and Roy Jones. Its funny to see this sort of conceit from a guy whose career is practically on the line in his next fight.

frochs legacy is way better than calzaghes. i dont really see how you can argue otherwise considering how vast the diffrence in competition is. the way they responded to hard fights alone makes froch a better champion. the only thing calzaghe got on froch is that hes undefeated, which he shouldnt be after the bhop fight. if he fought frochs competition he wouldve had far more losses too. and their respective kessler fights, joe won convincingly while froch won a much closer fight and got robbed. still frochs career overall is clearly more impressive than calzaghes.

umm how bout no?