118-109 Al Haymon has to stop.

Terrible card, García won but not by a very large margin, for me it was a close but clear fight. The KD ended Morales aspirations of getting the win. 118-109 is just stupid.

Morales clearly lost whether it was scored close or wide doesn't really matter. . Anyone *****ing about Marquez losing to Pacquiao in their 3rd fight doesn't know anything about boxing, or probably mexicans who could not accept that their best current fighters only claim to fame is a draw and 2 losses against the p4p best fighter in the world. All Marquez did was counterpunch all night and just tried to equalize Pacquiao's offense but Pacquiao is clearly the aggressor, notwithstanding that he is the champion and therefore the one who has the luxury to do just enough to retain the belt.

I had a UK stream but it wasn't Watt. They had a panel of athletes talking after the fights and throughout but they had Molina up. You mentioned the UK stream, as in Skysports, that is what would be shown in the UK. Jim Watt had Kirkland up on the scorecards.

Not the stream I was watching, they had Molina ahead and said Molina was out-boxing kirkland. It's so funny how you assume I was watching what you watched. You mentioned the UK stream, as in Skysports, that is what would be shown in the UK. Jim Watt had Kirkland up on the scorecards.

Not the stream I was watching, they had Molina ahead and said Molina was out-boxing kirkland. It's so funny how you assume I was watching what you watched. It is funny that you mention the UK score score cards they had Kirkland beating Monila.

I am sure you had kirkland ahead of molina also. That makes you irrelevant to my thread so sir I ask of you to leave. Morales won 3 of the first 4. So after the 4th he won 0 rounds? I was watching the UK stream they had morales ahead on the 10th. After the knockdown and winning the 12th round garcia was up by 1 point. This is what the UK scorecards read but I was not taking score all I know is it was close. Seems like you agree with a 118-109 card.. It is funny that you mention the UK score score cards they had Kirkland beating Monila.

Morales won 3 of the first 4. So after the 4th he won 0 rounds? I was watching the UK stream they had morales ahead on the 10th. After the knockdown and winning the 12th round garcia was up by 1 point. This is what the UK scorecards read but I was not taking score all I know is it was close. Seems like you agree with a 118-109 card.. Nope. I had Molina up 88-83. How do you get out landed in most all rounds and have your opponent land the harder punches, but it was a really close fight???? Objectivity, learn it. Morales lost and if you're being objective and not giving him the benefit of the doubt for being an ATG and a future HOF, he lost 9-3/8-4. Garcia landed more punches and the harder punches for most of the rounds. How did Morales win more than 3 rounds convincingly???

I am sure you had kirkland ahead of molina also. That makes you irrelevant to my thread so sir I ask of you to leave. Nope. I had Molina up 88-83. How do you get out landed in most all rounds and have your opponent land the harder punches, but it was a really close fight???? Objectivity, learn it. Morales lost and if you're being objective and not giving him the benefit of the doubt for being an ATG and a future HOF, he lost 9-3/8-4. Garcia landed more punches and the harder punches for most of the rounds. How did Morales win more than 3 rounds convincingly???

And you know so much about boxing right? That is why you are on red.... shame For the idiots that don't know **** about boxing Al Haymon is a financial advisor not a promoter.

He acts innocent when we all know he is guilty. I think they were now what? A sacrificial lamb is an innocent victim.........Haymon is nothing like that,more like the Grey Eminence.... But I personally don't think that judges are tampered with today.

No one does it so blatantly like Haymon and he just doesn't care that people know. King and Arum atleast try to hide it. He will be the sacrificial lamb for the sport of boxing. Al-Haymon it's your time to go. A sacrificial lamb is an innocent victim.........Haymon is nothing like that,more like the Grey Eminence.... But I personally don't think that judges are tampered with today.

That sounds reasonable. I was more in line with Harold Lederman's score card. Much closer but I give the nod to the younger guy. I can't even remember his name now. But he won't be remembered much if an old man can make him look this bad. Not while there's so much better talent at 140 at the moment.

Read all my responses I clearly stated that it's not only about this fight it's about past fights like campillo vs cloud and that's not the worst part the worst part is about to begin if someone does not put a stop to it. Go back and read it I clearly posted that. so them scoring the fight closer does what for you exactly? bottom line is that Morales LOST THE FIGHT!

Yes he will and we know it. One judge had Ortiz winning by 1 point in his first fight against berto.. Get ready for it this time they won't miss. I'm telling you guys now...victor ortiz will get robbed against berto this time..last time they were not expecting ortiz to win...this time they will be prepared Ortiz needs to knock him out

I didn't see no gift decision. Marquez vs Pacman 2 and 3 I saw those gift decisions. If you want to start with the name calling I suggest you just get out this is a forum I don't get offended by simplicity. Goodnight it's past your bed time. :bottle: Sorry to tell you this but Pacman is done like I have said before stick a fork in him his career is as dead as morales' career. Its not one or the other. Morales getting a gift decision in the first fight was without a doubt one of the best things to have ever happened to PAC in his career. It made him into a more complete fighter and put him into even bigger superstar status when he avenged his loss by two devastating KO's. Your a dumbass and theres no one or the other about that. Its a fact.

I'm telling you guys now...victor ortiz will get robbed against berto this time..last time they were not expecting ortiz to win...this time they will be prepared Ortiz needs to knock him out

No robbery should not be acceptable but some people are just blinded by nationalism and other factors so there will always be difference of opinions in rounds won by certain fighter. I saw Marquez win 9-3. so them scoring the fight closer does what for you exactly? bottom line is that Morales LOST THE FIGHT!

No robbery should not be acceptable but some people are just blinded by nationalism and other factors so there will always be difference of opinions in rounds won by certain fighter. I saw Marquez win 9-3. Oh so basically your saying Robbery Is Ok As Long As They Hide It? lol :nonono: Robbery is Robbery...this fight was "ROBBERY" because the right fighter won, I would be more upset if Morales was clearly winning and then they presented those score cards

I find it hard to believe you can be a Morales fan when you are in love with Pacquiao.. It's one or the other. Pacman fans take to heart all of Pacman's opponents and wish to see them dead just for even putting a hand on pacman. Its not one or the other. Morales getting a gift decision in the first fight was without a doubt one of the best things to have ever happened to PAC in his career. It made him into a more complete fighter and put him into even bigger superstar status when he avenged his loss by two devastating KO's. I like Morales because he likes to stand and trade and is a true warrior. Your a dumbass and theres no one or the other about that. Its a fact.

Judging the fight objectively you will probably get those results. I had Garcia up by a couple of rounds giving Morales the benefit of the doubt in a few of the close rounds so for someone that doesn't care about an ATG last good performance wide margin is understandable.