Let's break this down for a second here. Cotto beat Margarito 9 rounds to 0, some could argue 8 rounds to 1. BUT that doesn't mean much if a fight is stopped prematurely.
The thing is, the ring doc/ref stopped the fight not because of what damage Cotto had done on Margarito's eye, but because of the damaged state of his eye itself. They assumed that because his eye was already previously damaged, it would cause more harm to let him continue. Now some would say this should NOT have been the case, because why would you stop a fight based on previous injuries? You're supposed to stop a fight based on what is happening right then and there in the ring of the fight date, not because of something that happened months ago. That's like a ref saying, "hey Pacquiao has been knocked out before so I'm gonna stop the fight a little sooner than I should because of previous damage." It just shouldn't work that way if you ask me. Pacquiao damaged Margarito's eye way worse than what Cotto did, where was the ring doc then?
Cotto fans will say well Cotto was beating him 9 rounds 0 (some could say 8-1) but what was the breaking point? Were Cotto's legs starting to gas? Could it have turned into a copy of Cotto-Marg I? This is something that we will never know due to a poor, premature stoppage in my books.
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Not to mention, at anytime, was Cotto in any danger during the fight. There were a couple difficult moments for him, but he nullified that effectivelly. His face easily bruises up now because of the beatings he took from their first fight and the Pac fight.
His chin is still ok.
call me crazy, but why do i get the stinky feeling that this is another dig at floyd--another roadblock to taint his legacy---subliminals even exist in boxingscene.com/forums-lol
Except against Mosely, Pacquiao and Tony in the first fight, right?
Mosley was the typical take a couple rounds off, come back strong the 11th and 12th to win the fight. The pacquiao fight wasnt an issue of stamina, just bad gameplanning/pac being too much.
With margarito he did run out of gas, but mainly from it being plastered out of him, him constantly moving and constant pressure from a much bigger man. Did i mention plaster yet?
Lettuce b real, margarito is 1-3 since his plaster was taken from him, his only win being against a nobody and 3 beatdowns. Im not saying he isnt dangerous, or cant punch hard, but his offensive attack was pretty much rendered useless against cotto, nothing like the first fight. He wasnt able to get extension, no uppercuts or body work, etc. There is nothing to suggest he was gonna beat cotto down in the last 3 rounds.
Im not saying he wasnt tired, or cant get tired, anybody can/will get tired if you've been in a fight for 12 rounds, but its fairly audacious for you to suggest he couldnt close the show. He's made a career out of closing the show. And with this fight, above all, he was a man on a mission.
Cotto was winning that fight from the beginning, and still would have won if they didn't stop the fight. Even a wounded margo can throw volume. But look at the punchstats.
Cotto was outlanding him (jabs included) in the 9th round by 50% to Margo's 26%. And it takes more energy to swing and miss than to swing and hit. In the 8th, Tony was practically swinging at air, landing at a pathetic 16% to Cotto's 43%, Cotto landing twice as much. The 7th was similar, Cotto-50%, Margo23%.
That's not even mentioning Cotto's powerful jab, 31% to Margo's 8%. 8%!!!! Lol.
In the 8th round, Cotto landed 18 power punches, in the 9th, he landed more, 23. Overall, he landed 43% in the 8th, and more, 50% in the 9th. Yeah, of course Cotto was getting a little tired in the last rounds. He was busy beating the dogsh1t out of Margo.
He would have won that fight that night if Margo's eye wasn't damaged. He had an excellent trainer, a great game plan and avoided getting trapped, like he did last time, getting caught with uppercuts early in their 1st fight.
Cotto fought a great game plan, stuck to it and was even pressuring Margo back. Persoanlly, i love the way the fight ended. Even though Cotto looked disappointed when they stopped it, (i was too), it left doubt in Margo's foolish pride thinking he could have won that fight if he was allowed to continue.
Now he has that to ponder the rest of his life. Cotto's victory couldn't have been sweeter, unless he ktfo, but i really didn't see him able to do that. The most he was going to get was the UD, that he did get. Tony was still a tuff fight stylewise for Cotto.
We all know now that Cotto has trouble with bigger, pressure fighters, but it looks like he might have found the blueprint on how to deal with pressure, volume throwers. He fought a great fight, and nobody can take that away from him.
So i post the punchstats....argue with this. http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/view.php?pg=cotto-margarito-rematch-compubox
Let this topic die already. Margarita was gettin his azz whooped in every round. To say the cheater was starting to make a comeback is idiotic. IF margarita won the last 2 or 3 rounds before the fight was stopped then I would agree that he could have possibly did something if the the fight continued, but since Miguel won those rounds in which the 9th was one of his better rounds then the arguement that margarita was 'turning things around' isnt vallied IMO and doesnt make any sense. Let it go already.
Never mind, you worded it weirdly. You made it sound as if Cotto was taunting Margarito
The wording was a lil off.
We can agree to dis agree without calling each other names
it was a pity win for Cotto as soon as news broke that there was an extra DR at ring side everybody knew who was going to win that fight. when vegas gambers got word of the news bettings odds change . in other words you have to be really stupid not to beable to guess how the fight would end
Dude Margo was doing the taunting. Cotto almost never changes his expression on a fight.
Never mind, you worded it weirdly. You made it sound as if Cotto was taunting Margarito
How was Cotto taunting him? During fights a lot of times I watch the fighter's mouths to see if they are talking to each other and I didn't see Cotto's lips move at all. I saw Margarito talk a bit though.
Dude Margo was doing the taunting. Cotto almost never changes his expression on a fight.
Margo was doing a lot of yapping as they fought. You probably are going to call me a liar again.
How was Cotto taunting him? During fights a lot of times I watch the fighter's mouths to see if they are talking to each other and I didn't see Cotto's lips move at all. I saw Margarito talk a bit though.
I do agree with that but my point is that Margo smiles when he gets hit. It is very normal of him doing so.
He was bullying Cotto and they both speak spanish. While he was fighting Cotto he was taunting him also
lol what :thinking:
Well the difference is he was hurt against Mosley where as Cotto has never been able to hurt him.
I do agree with that but my point is that Margo smiles when he gets hit. It is very normal of him doing so.
He was bullying Cotto and they both speak spanish. While he was fighting Cotto he was taunting him also
his demeanor was "wow I got fucked up"
he wasn't smiling nor laughing, now we can move on.
He was smiling on the floor after Mosley knocked him down the final time. Why deny whats right in front of your eyes?
Wow I'm in the red. That holds a lot of bearing on an argument here. So what was Margo's demeanor when he was on the floor getting stopped?
By the way I voted Yes it should had not been stopped by the way
his demeanor was "wow I got fucked up"
he wasn't smiling nor laughing, now we can move on.
He was never laughing when he got KO'd by Mosley.
Feel free to live in your own little fantasy world, it doesn't bother me. I guess that's why you're in the red
Wow I'm in the red. That holds a lot of bearing on an argument here. So what was Margo's demeanor when he was on the floor getting stopped?
By the way I voted Yes it should had not been stopped by the way
I showed you two videos with him smiling when he gets hit. If you want to down play it and try to pretend that you were right then let it be.
Margo always smiles when he gets hit hard by any fighter.
The only one embarrassing themself is you here.
Well the difference is he was hurt against Mosley where as Cotto has never been able to hurt him.
Lolwut?
If anything, he takes a round or two off, then comes back strong to close the show. Thats what he has shown during his career.
Except against Mosely, Pacquiao and Tony in the first fight, right?
I showed you two videos with him smiling when he gets hit. If you want to down play it and try to pretend that you were right then let it be.
Margo always smiles when he gets hit hard by any fighter.
The only one embarrassing themself is you here.
The same way he was laughing when he got KOed by Mosley.
He was never laughing when he got KO'd by Mosley.
Feel free to live in your own little fantasy world, it doesn't bother me. I guess that's why you're in the red
You edited your post. You clearly stated that Margarito was laughing when he got KO'd by Mosley, which is 100% incorrect as shown in the video.
Don't try to argue when you're the one who had to resort to editing your own posts to avoid embarrassment.
I showed you two videos with him smiling when he gets hit. If you want to down play it and try to pretend that you were right then let it be.
Margo always smiles when he gets hit hard by any fighter.
The only one embarrassing themself is you here.