Chavez jr vs Vanes Martirosyan?????

Chavez Jr wins via UD. He would weight in 160 at the scales but looking like complete crap, but then the next day he's going to be 180+ and is going to have good stamina. The guy is losing over 10% of his body weight, and those 20 pounds are of water. Losing over 7 - 8% of the body weight by dehydration is terrible and can even cause brain damage.

Yo when was this??? Chavez Jr. has improved quite a bit over the last couple of years, and I'm not high on either guy but I think if they fight and it's anything like their sparring session it should be a solid bout. Was getting heated in there :boxing: I think that was before the Zbik fight. He hasn't improved much imho, he still has the same tendencies, and is still susceptible to getting hit. Somebody is gonna catch him with such a hard left hook one of these days that's gonna shake him to his foundation. His chin/resiliency/punch resistance is truly gonna be tested sooner rather than later.

It'll go like this. I see a zbik/chavez situation where Vanes will land a ton more punches, but the judges will give Chavez the benefit of the doubt because he wont' look hurt and his size will give the impression that he's landing more powerful punches. Yo when was this??? Chavez Jr. has improved quite a bit over the last couple of years, and I'm not high on either guy but I think if they fight and it's anything like their sparring session it should be a solid bout. Was getting heated in there :boxing:

Lol Thanks for the video, it made me realize how bad JCC Jr is. Look at his hook to the body at 1:20 what would Martinez do to him if he threw that bullsh1t. I also couldn't stop laughing at his 2 punch combos when he had Vanes against the ropes compared to vanes 3-4+ combos. :rofl:

It'll go like this. I see a zbik/chavez situation where Vanes will land a ton more punches, but the judges will give Chavez the benefit of the doubt because he wont' look hurt and his size will give the impression that he's landing more powerful punches.

He's on something that's for sure. How could you put on 20 lbs overnight and not look like Rios did in his fight vs Murray, all gassed out.

co-sign (diuretic). This is exactly what I think he's on. I don't think he's juicing, but it's obvious he has very bad weight problems and he's been popped for it before. The whole texas "forgetting" to drug test was all I needed to see for me to suspect he's still doing it. i agree carnal.I bet he does it in mexico as well.

This fight would be a waste of time.

Does anyone believe Chavez Jr is on PED's, a simple yes or no??? Diarltyics or whatever that **** is for weight loss... yea.

Does anyone believe Chavez Jr is on PED's, a simple yes or no???

Vanes hasn't used roach recently and doesn't show up at wild card anymore. He's been trainig with a new up and coming trainer out Glendale Fighting Club gym (Edmond tarverdyan), so that won't be an issue. I see vanes clearly winning the fight but getting robbed in Texas by that corrupt ass commission and the paid off judges

Chavez will outweigh him by 20lbs and get a decision.

how will this fight played out ??? I mean who will train Vanes since the both share Roach.. What is roach going to do switch corners every other round ???lol I hope the fight happens. Roach will go with JCCJR. and Vanes will get another Trainer. I see Vanes being very competitive with Jr maybe even win the fight in veiwers eyes but to decision Jr. he needs a shutout. I just dont believe Top Rank is going to make that fight.