If Juan Manuel Marquez retires this year, how will you remember him?

Will also remember him for exposing the myth of Manny is a new and improved fighter.

He's the absolute pinnacle of combination counter punching, a true wizard in the ring. A fighter with a huge heart and an impeccable resolve, definitely top 3 most resilient fighter of this era. Only lost decisively and was outclassed by one fighter, Mayweather. Always found him to be exciting even his early fights in the Barrera/Morales era where people scrutinized him for not having an exciting style.

Will always remember him as a man with great courage and determination. He has given us some really exciting fights in his career. You just have to think if he weren't in the same age as Barerra and Morales how big he would've been in Mexico. Even though he is an excellent technician, he is never afraid to mix it up and go toe-to-toe and that's what makes him exciting.

As a glass chinned, piss drinking, elephant man looking crybaby Barrera and Morales both blow him out of the water legacy wise and he doesn't even deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as Chavez Sr or Manny Pacquiao

Perserverance for sure. There have been a lot of setbacks, missed opportunities, bad management decisions, etc. He started well behind his other two contemporaries in Barrera and Morales as far as hype, fans and exposure but he has outlasted and vaulted past them in many ways. IMO, the toughest battle of JMM career has been to FINALLY reach this level of notoriety and respect within the boxing community and Mexicans in general and be considered amongst the BEST in the sport. Not the best Mexican, but amongst the best P4P. He mentions this constantly, he's even been a little bitter about it in the past...but I am sure it's been a source of motivation. He is one of the last guys out there who I have followed almost his whole career outside of his first 9-10 fights. Seen him fight a couple of times in person when I was like 14 he was coming up on the old KCAL 9 fights that were only televised in southern CA, as far as I know. I can still seeing him throw this uppercut KO he on one of those cards, picture perfect....delayed reaction KO and the guy was out. It's like he never missed when he decided to throw (which wasn't often at those times lol). His fights weren't always barn burners, his skill was too good to risk fighting, AND it looked like he was going to fall off into oblivion after blowing his opportunity against Norwood. But he slowly worked his way back. The announcement of Pac/JMM 1 was HUGE to me, a true super fight as far I was concerned....seeing him lying on the canvas 3 times in the first round was one of the lowest points I've ever been as a fan in boxing lol. To go from THAT to getting a draw, to losing to John, to where he is today is amazing. It's one of the biggest payoffs to me as a his fan to see all the respect he gets from all u other fellow fans. He even got a stab at the P4P guy and we got a boxing purists fight with Mayweather....who ever thought that fight would be made?? Yeah, size (among other things) was a factor but it was still awesome to see those two match up. Also awesome to see him and Barrera finally get in there too (I won't opine on the scores of that fight). After watching him for like 15ys I'm completely satisfied as a fan and it was worth all the time or money I spent to see him....but without that Pac victory I don't know if he ever will be

Marquez will be remembered as a great fighter, one of the best mexicans ever I would say. Katsidis is an amazing warrior, Juan Díaz was undisputed lightweight champion and Casamayor another great fighter, olympic gold medalist and world champion in two weights. I´m going to bed because I´m tired of your absolut disrespect for the great boxers of this era, all YDNSAB

I could never figure out why Marquez went life and death with Diaz (1st fight), Cassamayor and Katsidis though, but clearly beat Pac in the 3rd fight. I know styles make fights, but all and all, I think Marquez was just a weird fighter. Meaning guys he should blow out the water end up being competitive and guys that should blow him out of the water (i.e Pac-JMM 3), he ends up really winning. marquez needed his legs against ring shrinkers and swarmers in diaz and katsidis. they weren't there because of his age. it forced him into a gunfight. by the end of those fights they were very much one sided as well. both guys hurt him badly early in the fight. and casamayor wakes up in the morning thinking about how to make his opponent look bad. pacquiao tried to box against marquez. he really didnt turn up the heat. marquez was able to pick him apart and play the counterpuncher. a bit more like the second diaz fight. he finished the fight and stayed strong, though, did pacquiao, whereas when diaz and katsidis hurt marquez and wore him down some they did it at too great a cost and they could not finish the fight. marquez ended up overwhelming them because of the risks they had been taking.

Above all, Mannys Papi.

One greatest mexican fighter out of Mexico ever IMO, JMM>Chavez. Love Marquez!!! he is an absolute pleasure to watch in the ring.

He's already one of the most accurate combination punchers I've ever seen, it'd be impossible for me to forget him. man, so ****in beautiful

I too believe JMM is a notch above HOF status, he's an ATG. :boxing: You can't deny him that, not after Pacquiao/Marquez 3. He's a great fighter to fight as well as he did in a fight very few expected him to be competitive in.

Marquez is a ATG. He beat Pac three times, if they fight for a fourth time he would win again.

As its been said here. Greatest combo puncher ever. Warrior and technician. Watching him him fight is eye candy for the true boxing fan. Truly an ATG and HOF. Viva Marquez :hail: I too believe JMM is a notch above HOF status, he's an ATG. :boxing:

As its been said here. Greatest combo puncher ever. Warrior and technician. Watching him him fight is eye candy for the true boxing fan. Truly an ATG and HOF. Viva Marquez :hail:

As an incredible fighter, who is without a doubt one of the greatest fighters of his era. Technically superb, and not afraid to go toe to toe. JMM is one of my all time favourites.

A truly great fighter that had a something only the ATG's have, That extra gear that elevated him above 99% of the competition I will remember him as a warrior and technician. cosign he's a technician and a warrior

if all you remember AND KNOW of him are the fights with pac, then how can you call him an ATG? that's weak and a disservice to JMM. The only people that just know about his Pacquiao fights are people that haven't been following the sport all that long.

if you believe pac is a hof than what does it make the guy who beat him 3 times. jmm the best of the 4 fighters pac/morales/mab/jmm. best combination puncher ive ever seen. amazing heart and grit. err... you missed the point?

if all you remember AND KNOW of him are the fights with pac, then how can you call him an ATG? that's weak and a disservice to JMM. if you believe pac is a hof than what does it make the guy who beat him 3 times. jmm the best of the 4 fighters pac/morales/mab/jmm. best combination puncher ive ever seen. amazing heart and grit.

maybe he got better at an advanced age (in boxing at least) bcoz he was well preserved compared to marco and erik who were busy carving up their respective legacies at the time JMM was fighting obscure contenders top rank was feeding him... it was only after the 1st pacquiao fight that he gained recognition after which he came back fighting lower tier foes again like salido and polo... so when marco and erik were declining, JMM was well preserved as he took on pacquiao the 2nd time and then had his excellent campaign @ 135... as for his fights with MP, what can u expect when you have a big styles advantage over your foe? you will really look terrific against that foe more often than not IMO... jones-toney, pacquiao-barrera, norton-ali... You make it sound as if it's that easy, style vs style. No matter what so called style advantage you may have over and opponent, you still have to execute. Pac is an absolute freak of nature and is one of the best fighters we have ever seen, let's not make that mistake. JMM hung in there with him even though he had no physical advantages over him and that's not easy. Don't take credit away from what JMM accomplished, style advantage or not.