Yeah Pacquiao is bloated as hell, he'd rather fight at his actual weight @ 140 than a catchweight of 144.
OH WAIT........................
Okay, so why even fight at that arbitrary weight(144?). They could have fought at 141 for the title since both are bloated LW's and called it a day if it were that easy.
you want him to move up and down in weight every time he fights?
fight cotto at 147, fight marquez at 140, fight margarito at 154
he could've done all that but...
what are you two? retarded?
lol, what are we auditioning for? why are we acting like floyd fought marquez at 144 and that he is not much bigger than marquez, whilst pacquiao-marquez III is just two bloated lightweights?
Okay, so why even fight at that arbitrary weight(144?). They could have fought at 141 for the title since both are bloated LW's and called it a day if it were that easy.
lol, what are we auditioning for? why are we acting like floyd fought marquez at 144 and that he is not much bigger than marquez, whilst pacquiao-marquez III is just two bloated lightweights?
Yeah Pacquiao is bloated as hell, he'd rather fight at his actual weight @ 140 than a catchweight of 144.
OH WAIT........................
Mayweather vs Gerena though may be my favourite Floyd fight to watch, man, those combos he hit him with were amazing.
Mine is probably still Mayweather-Gatti. He just beat his a$$.
Agreed.
Honourables would be Chavez, Manfredy, Gatti, Sosa, Corley
I'd leave Sosa and Corley off that. Those were alright wins but nothing really good or anything.
My honorables would be Gerena, Manfredy, Gatti, Chavez, and Baldomir.
Hatton is a top 5 or 6 win. He's a top 5 or 6 win for Pac, too.
Mosley
Corrales
Castillo
Delahoya
Hatton
Hernandez
Genaro
Corrales
Castillo
Hatton
Mosley
Judah
De La Hoya
Ortiz
Marquez
Chavez
Cotto soon to take Chavez out of that Top 10.
all hof's on his resume
oscar
mosley
hatton
corrales
jmm
castillo
gatti-he will get in trust me
coming up Cotto
Genero Hernandez will probably get in too, considering he died of cancer and all that.
Hatton being one of the best if not the best his wins is honestly crazy. I know Floyd has great talent, no doubt, but his resume is really not great at all. Hatton has no sense of defense and Corrales was not anywhere near the caliber HOF fighter that say a ODH or Shane are. He beat them, but you know, way later than their primes. ODLH win was close anyway.
Oscar at 154 was NOT CLOSE. Anyone who actually watched that fight live did not have it a SD. Only the the most bias Oscar fans or the blind Mexican fans in the stands though that fight was close.
With Mayweather, I've never seen a fight get out landed by like 50 punches in 4 rounds (Ortiz) and have people say the fight was close and that it was a 50-50 fight. And also, I've never seen a guy get out landed by almost 100 punches during the course of the fight (De La Hoya) and have people say the fight was close and a SD
If Floyd doesn't have a good resume, than a HOF fighter like Miguel Cotto has a s**t resume. Floyd's resume is HANDS DOWN far superior to a guy like Cotto, and Cotto is a HOF fighter.
I've always thought Castillo, Corrales, G. Hernandez, and Hatton, given what other fighters have gotten into the HOF, are borderline HOF fighters and it's debatable. Look at Kostya Tszyu, a great example of a modern fighter who got into the HOF with relative ease. Compare the resume's of Tszyu to Hatton-Castillo-Corrales-G. Hernandez.....pretty similar and I'll take Corrales and Castillo's best wins at least equal, if not better, than Tszyu's best wins. And lets not forget that Ricky Hatton beat Kostya Tszyu H2H, when Tszyu was #1 JWW in the world. And lets not forget that Hatton (#8) and Corrales (#5) were both Top 10 P4P fighters at points in their careers. And even though Mosley was past his prime, he was #3 P4P and had just knocked Margarito out when Floyd fought him. And lets no also forget that Floyd is arguably the only guy to even beat Marquez, and without a doubt the only guy to beat him convincingly, shutting him out. And he did it at a weight that Marquez arguably just beat Manny at.
The hate is so strong towards Floyd, that it's almost as if he's become underrated in the past 5-6 years.
IMO. Corrales and hatton
Hatton being one of the best if not the best his wins is honestly crazy. I know Floyd has great talent, no doubt, but his resume is really not great at all. Hatton has no sense of defense and Corrales was not anywhere near the caliber HOF fighter that say a ODH or Shane are. He beat them, but you know, way later than their primes. ODLH win was close anyway.
completely disagree, like he is doing now vs cotto, like a week in it was reported he was at what?(i forgot)
there were reports of him working out long before the training camp, the guy is like bhop, he's just in the gym more
nonito donaire walks around at 140, bradley at 160, it doesn't mean nothin
but floyd definitely is working his ass off so as not to blow up or he'd be at the 160's at least
whether he works his ass off or not, his walk around weight is his walk aorund weight. he shouldnt be penalized because he stays in shape and his peers blow up. the fact is floyd doesnt blow up enormously.
floyd doesnt, in his last fight he was 150lbs with about a month to go for ortiz. and that is pretty much his mo. floyd may be bigger than pac, but its def by no more than a lb or 2. they both fight in the same weight category/class tho.
completely disagree, like he is doing now vs cotto, like a week in it was reported he was at what?(i forgot)
there were reports of him working out long before the training camp, the guy is like bhop, he's just in the gym more
nonito donaire walks around at 140, bradley at 160, it doesn't mean nothin
but floyd definitely is working his ass off so as not to blow up or he'd be at the 160's at least
http://www.philstar.com/sportsarticle.aspx?articleid=495020&publicationsubcategoryid=69
"MANILA, Philippines - Manny Pacquiao is walking around at 153 pounds and is in no hurry to kick off training for his Nov. 14 fight with Miguel Cotto."
Article was used in another thread on here but I forget which one.
It was the first I'd honesty read that Pacquaio was walking around above 150 Lbs.yeah this is what I remember reading too...160 was a slight exaggeration on my end....nonetheless it really did murder this whole "pacquiao kills himself for extra ounces" leading up to fight night.
yea, 150 does seem around right to me, i was just suprised floyd doesn't blow up more
thanks for the link
floyd doesnt, in his last fight he was 150lbs with about a month to go for ortiz. and that is pretty much his mo. floyd may be bigger than pac, but its def by no more than a lb or 2. they both fight in the same weight category/class tho.
Didn't Pacquiao get caught walking around at 160 something the other week? Weighs 146 on day of the fight since under 130..."Giant Killer"...
roy jones would come in at 180lbs during his middleweight days
http://www.philstar.com/sportsarticle.aspx?articleid=495020&publicationsubcategoryid=69
"MANILA, Philippines - Manny Pacquiao is walking around at 153 pounds and is in no hurry to kick off training for his Nov. 14 fight with Miguel Cotto."
Article was used in another thread on here but I forget which one.
It was the first I'd honesty read that Pacquaio was walking around above 150 Lbs.
yea, 150 does seem around right to me, i was just suprised floyd doesn't blow up more
thanks for the link
right, btw, what's your source for pacquiao walking around at 150?
http://www.philstar.com/sportsarticle.aspx?articleid=495020&publicationsubcategoryid=69
"MANILA, Philippines - Manny Pacquiao is walking around at 153 pounds and is in no hurry to kick off training for his Nov. 14 fight with Miguel Cotto."
Article was used in another thread on here but I forget which one.
It was the first I'd honesty read that Pacquaio was walking around above 150 Lbs.
right, btw, what's your source for pacquiao walking around at 150?Didn't Pacquiao get caught walking around at 160 something the other week? Weighs 146 on day of the fight since under 130..."Giant Killer"...
I don't think he's that small for the class personally I think he's a comfortable WW. A big strong, Jr WW were he to fight there.
The 140 Division is lucky that the money is at 147 because I shudder to think how awesome and strong Pac would be at 140.
I'm not sure it wouldn't surprise me if Pac hit the gym between fights. Perhaps not hard but he strikes me as a guy who lieks to stay in shape year round.
I'd say Mayweather walks around at about 150-154. He's never really shown that he walks around any higher than that.
I do agree Mayweather is bigger than Pacquaio but again I don't think it's by much, personally.
right, btw, what's your source for pacquiao walking around at 150?