How can you call someone who fights for a living a ''coward''?

.... Why do we need a thread for this

Good topic, and Michael Wilbon don't know isht about boxing!

How can they be afraid to fight if that is their profession and they do it for a living? Im guessing you mean Mayweather from your post...correct me if im wrong and i apologise if i do but that man has fought 42 fights in his professional career and countless fights in his amateur days. How can he be afraid to fight? And every man, every fighter in the world is afraid for his health! That is just natural for a human being. Sure no fighter will tell you that whilst he is fighting but you must be really naive if you think that any fighter out their is not afraid for his health. Mike Tyson, one of the most intimidating men on the planet when he was fighting has come out and said after his retirement that underneath that vicious look of his, he was scared himself. So is every fighter though deep down, but that is only natural. It's perfectly understandable that boxers fear for their health. You're not a coward if you fear for you're health. You're a coward if you're afraid to lose.

Please explain this to me. Im quite new to this internet world, have only had Internet for around 6 months or so now but i see so many people especially on Boxing forums call professional boxers ''cowards''. The likes of Gamboa, Mayweather, Khan etc get that insult thrown at them on a regular basis. What i want to know though is why people feel they can have the nerve to call someone who fights and risks his life everytime he steps into a ring for a living, a ''coward''. Do you really feel you have the right to call them that? Just a general question, i am genuinley intrigued by this, no offence is meant to anyone so please dont take any. Just educate me on why yourself(if you have used this insult) or others feel they have the right to call someone who fights for a living a ''coward''. Thanks. "The hero and the coward both feel the same thing, but the hero uses his fear, projects it onto his opponent, while the coward runs. It's the same thing, fear, but it's what you do with it that matters." " Cus D'Amato Bravery is not the absent of fear it is actions taken despite fear. When you let your fears make your decisions despite your ample capabilities that is cowardice.

how about the 100 bucks a round most guys make for their first few fights? Again I'm obviously talking about the elite guys.... the ones that are talked about everyday on this forum and in which the thread was directed towards

Boxing is unlike any sport out there. 1 bad fight and you could be horribly altered for life. You'll have to take your comment with a grain of salt. they are human beings after all................Rockin':boxing: boxing is not the only sport that can and has killed people and has handed out life changing injuries.

People need to get the hell off this philosophy. Anyone would be willing to fight for a living with the amount of money these guys are making. how about the 100 bucks a round most guys make for their first few fights?

lmao, you think these guys didn't work to get the money they are getting? if you think you can do it then why the **** dont you? cuz you dont want to wake up at 6am and run 5 miles every morning? you dont want to kill yourself in the gym and exchange punches with other extremely fit and powerful men, why? because you're a ****in coward, shut ur god damn mouth man They worked to get to where they are I never said they didn't. But when they get there and are making millions but not giving us, the fans, the fights we want they deserve all the criticism that comes their way. Why should I hold back? And u say that last part like I havent boxed for 4 years. I know everything that goes on I dont have the talent to get to that level. But I will say this killing yourself in the gym and making millions as a boxer is a much better lifestyle then killing yourself at a job and struggling to make ends meet.

you are a good and knowledgable poster, why would you post that rediculous comment when the huge percantage (90% or more?) of boxers don't even make $8k in a year?............Rockin':boxing: I do know that, but when we are talking about calling boxers cowards and stuff on this forum more than likely it is about the elite that get paid hundreds of thousands. And those are the ones my comment was directed at. Amateur and the lesser pros I respect because they dedicate so much of their life to boxing just because they love the sport. As for the elite guys I appreciate their skills to get to that level, but when they are making millions then start acting like divas I will not hold back criticism just because they are boxers.

People need to get the hell off this philosophy. Anyone would be willing to fight for a living with the amount of money these guys are making. lmao, you think these guys didn't work to get the money they are getting? if you think you can do it then why the **** dont you? cuz you dont want to wake up at 6am and run 5 miles every morning? you dont want to kill yourself in the gym and exchange punches with other extremely fit and powerful men, why? because you're a ****in coward, shut ur god damn mouth man

People need to get the hell off this philosophy. Anyone would be willing to fight for a living with the amount of money these guys are making.

Anyone who steps in the ring shouldn't be called a coward but, when they refuse to against someone I can understand why people use the word. I still cant. If a person isn't ready for something then that's intelligence, and intelligence is what people should be using. Its not always fear of a fighter, it could be pay etc as well... The same way a person dodges a punch, we as boxing fans know and have promoters on record to protecting certain fighters...... Its only logical, it does get in the way of some good fights, but it comes with the game. You guys really think that a fighter whom thinks he's going to lose, and then proceeds to lose wishes and is thankful he took that "L"?? No one wants an "L' Plus there are so many aspects, what if that person like all other human beings is going through something. I guarantee when Bradley beats Pac (I THINK HE WILL), IF BRADLEY COMES TO FIGHT AND NOT TOUCH GLOVES) it will be people saying Pac was distracted, jail time, lawsuits etc..... Focusing on being a congressman... It will all come out. But if Pac for some reason pulled out of the Bradley fight, IMO hes done enough to be given the benefit of the doubt and not be called a coward, then Its only natural... ALL TO OFTEN IN SHORT PEOPLE (FANBOYS) JUMP TO USE A TERM THAT REALLY DESCRIBES THEM.... I mean saying someone is afraid is one thing, but to say they are a coward, is totally ridiculous, unless we witness them shaking and such...

its all kinds of theorys about why that fight wasnt made, we will never know the truth... by the way how do u see that fight panning out?\ thing is if the media has a favorite they can sway the public to believe anything in that persons favor so i dont get to caught up in it! Well, unless you view the footage of Bowe LITERALLY putting his WBC belt in the trash can rather than face his mandatory in Lewis. Bowe's get out clause was the fact he offered Lewis a deal. Yeah, a 90-10 deal in Bowe's favour. Bowe didn't want to face Lewis and there was a reason for it. He thought he couldn't win and if you think you can't win, then you're not going to. Lewis wins this.

Khan was the money, he would have been Bradley's biggest payday by far. He had no guarantee of a Pacquiao fight it's easy to say in hindsight he made a good decision. Yes he would have been. But, at the point in time, Bradley was still in the running for the Pacquiao fight. Now what does Bradley do? Does he accept the Khan fight straight away for his biggest pay day or does he hold on and wait for an even bigger pay day knowing that if the Pacquiao fight falls through then he still has Khan as an option after Khan faces Peterson? There can be no doubt that Bradley made the correct decision, Khan was always a option for him(after Khan was supposed to have beaten Peterson) if the Pacquiao fight fell through.

Eh? Is that at me? I dont even understand what that means even if it is but i agree that DUCK is the right word. Tim Bradley ducked Khan, not because he was scared of him but because he wanted Pacquiao first, which was a financial decision and totally makes sense. He knows that the Khan fight can still be made afterwards, and people will still want that fight regardless of the outcome of Bradley/Pacman. It's not only fans who use the word coward. Even boxers themselves use it. Rios just recently called Gamboa a coward. So ask him.

The most frustrating thing about boxing is that they can pick and choose their opponents and avoid anyone they want. This wouldn't be acceptable in almost any other sport.

How do you know this? How do you know that they were not already in negotiations? Even if there was no guarentee, when the biggest payday of your career is on the table, trust me you make sure you do your best to try and get that done first, then worry about other **** that can still be done later, afterwards. But i agree with this line ''he didn't fear the man he feared the situation''. That's bang on. But hey, that's Boxing for you. Surely you should know this? Fighters have always tended to go after the money first, and for Bradley the money was at Pacquiao's door. If Miguel Cotto had accepted the terms, he would be fighting Pacquiao now instead of Bradley. Bradley was first reserve :lol1:

The Casemayor fight was a stay busy fight leading to the Pacquiao fight. He had signed with Top Rank, the Pacquiao fight was very much in place, he just took a fight to tide him over. He can now fight Pacquiao and regardless of the outcome, a fight with Khan will be there afterwards, gaurenteed. Had he fought Khan, the Pacquiao fight would not have a gaurentee. Again, he made the smart decision from a business perspective. He had the option of one fight that could cost him the other, or wait it out and get both fights and pay-day's, that's what he did. The Pacquaio fight would have been guaranteed had he won. But he didn't have enough confidence in his ability to beat Khan. Hence.....hes a pusssy. Remember Khan was in line for Mayweather and he was willing to risk that against Bradley. It was a biitch move and theres no two ways about it. And why would the Khan fight be there guaranteed? Why would Khan even fight Bradley after he loses to Pacquaio and after turning down the fight?The only reason Khan wanted to fight him was to unify the division. Khan has no reason to fight Bradley at 147. Bradley would have to accept way lower terms than he was offered. So you're wrong again.

these guys in here are something else, they think that boxers can just say "i want to fight him" and the fight gets made, promoters have been taking advantage of fighters for years and they end their carrers broke and robbed, boxers are starting to understand the business side of boxing and are acting accordingly (but its called ducking here).... when a boxer does something such as look out for himself financially in a sport which doesnt pay too many pensions... they are called stupid... leave it up to there guys and boxers would just fight with no defense to please the fans because fighting defensive and using strategy is being scared, get taken advantage of and let themselfs get raped by greedy promoters, not care anything about their family and future because being concerned about such things is just plain cowardness, and last but not least GOD FORBID you are worried about your own health as a boxer, thats the biggest mistake in the world these are the type of people u are dealing with on these boards brother good luck There HAVE been blatant ducks though, not every fight that doesn't get made is to do with financial or political issues. Take Lewis vs Bowe. Par exemple.

How can you call someone who fights for a living a ''coward''? easy...Floyd Mayweather is a coward! See how easy that was! It's better being scared of a badass Asian dude than scared of needles.