Robert Jackson: As Boxing historian Bert Sugar likes to say about a fighters chances “slim and none and slim is out of town” – this indeed may be the mantra surrounding Miguel Cotto’s chances. Elite Boxing Trainer Freddie Roach once said that as a young fighter he would spar with the late Alexis Arguello and Arguello would know what he (Roach) was going to do before he did it. One would have to say that Mayweather is also that class of fighter – he knows what you’re going to do before you do it. And even if he doesn’t know he has the quickness (quickness is in the mind, speed is in the body) to figure things out and do something to render it ineffective.
This Mayweather trait is the most formidible one that WBA Champion Miguel Cotto will be up against. Because of his quick mind, Mayweather is able to adapt very well against his opponents, within a short period of time. Couple this attribute with the training that Mayweather puts himself thru to prepare for a fight and there you have it..
Another concern of Team Cotto would have to be who they’ll spar with to prepare Miguel, think Stevie Forbes here (or Adrien Bronner). Some experts minimize the importance of sparring as just another exercise a fighter does in the gym to get in shape, face it people, SPARRING is REAL fighting, fighters get HURT sparring. Boxers fight to get ready to fight. And on FIGHT NIGHT a fighter fights in the ring just like he sparred in the gym! And if he sparred slow fighters he will have conditioned his muscle memory to fight slow. Cotto needs to spar with quick, crafty and fast sparring partners. And this is in addition to having the physical conditioning to go 12 rounds, where in the past Cotto has seemed to run out of gas.
Watching and Understanding the Mayweather fight style also does nothing for a fighter – as Mayweather likes to say “it looks easy until you get in the ring”. The Mayweather style is basic while also being complex, his defense first mentality has spared him the ring beatings sustained by other fighters, while opening up opportunitees to counterpunch their every attack with success. The Cotto jab which he successfully used against Shane Mosley will open him up for right hand counters from Mayweather – don’t expect Cotto to jab all night. The left hook to the body will be caught on the right forearm or elbow and followed up with a right uppercut counter from Mayweather – don’t expect too many left hooks to the body from Miguel. The right hand that Cotto will throw upstairs will be shoulder rolled by Mayweather then countered with his own right hand/left hook combination.
The last thing Team Cotto needs to concern themselves with is Mayweather’s phyiscal strength; to cope with the in-fighting Mayweather has bulked up his body and gained a lot of physical strength in his legs, torso and shoulders, though not considered a power puncher, Mayweather punches with the authority to keep his opponents honest. If they underestimate this Mayweather attribute, they’ve lost already. Cotto’s punch resistance isn’t what it once was and he will be getting hit a lot by Mayweather anyway.
In any case the mountain is high for Team Cotto and ‘slim IS out of town’! Cotto will sustain another beating and be outclassed for 12 rounds losing to the virtuoso by a huge margin or maybe even stopped.
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I honestly cant see Cotto winning.
I'll be supporting Cotto 100 % on fight night, and I hope he can pull off the upset, but I just dont see it happening.
Does cotto even have a chance at getting broner as a sparring partner? He is very mayweather-esque imo, and would be good for cotto to prepare for what he is gonna see.
I don't even like Floyd, I hope he gets KTFO to be quite honest... witht hat said, Cotto is going to get embarassed.
I agree, I would love nothing more than to see Mayweather get laid out but it's not going to happen. He's going to take Cotto to a place he's never seen and Cotto is not going to like it.
It is just tough to see Cotto doing anything.
People say he has a good jab, he does but Floyd has options to deal with it in that he has an excellecent jab combined with longer reach which also plays into being able to use the straight right counter over the top.
People say go to the body, ok that is an easier target than the head and going after Floyd's midsection is a fairly good idea. Still that bring about getting hit in the head clean by hooks and uppercuts plus Floyd is pretty good at defending his body even on the ropes so even if he does a decent job to Floyd's body he will be giving away rounds while taking a lot of damage in return. Will he really be able to take advantage of his body work under such conditions?
People say go in there and get after Floyd, ok Cotto is a stong talented offensive fighter with good pop. Cotto has leaky defense while Floyd is hard to hit, that right there makes it an uphill climb one guy will get hit freely while the other is not going to take near as much in return, does Cotto really have the ability to dish out 1 for 3 or 4 in return and come out ahead then throw in the fact that Cotto seems to be the more fragile guy.
Cotto is a good fighter, I really don't think he is all that different from past versions but I just can't see him winning unless Floyd messes up bad or falls off a cliff getting real old virtually overnight.
I don't even like Floyd, I hope he gets KTFO to be quite honest... witht hat said, Cotto is going to get embarassed.
I don't think Cotto has the tools to win, but I can still pray for the upset.
Posts like these make me want Floyd to get RJJ'd.
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Serious fans shouldn't be brushing off fighters so easily.
I don't even like Floyd, I hope he gets KTFO to be quite honest... witht hat said, Cotto is going to get embarassed.
Cotto will get embarassed, and those jabs will be countered as soon as he puts them out there.
Posts like these make me want Floyd to get RJJ'd.
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Serious fans shouldn't be brushing off fighters so easily.
Cotto will get embarassed, and those jabs will be countered as soon as he puts them out there.
I agree in a way, I think the fight will probably turn into that in the later rounds. Early on though, I could see Cotto having some sucess.
If Cotto can back Mayweather up, he'll be tough to beat. When Floyd lays on the ropes with that high guard, you can be sure a left hook to the body is coming.
That said, of course Floyd has the better overall skills and speed. Cotto has the power. He also has a good stiff jab.
As an aside, isn't it kind of sad that Floyd's toughest test is from a past prime Cotto that Pacquiao destroyed? Why is Floyd fighting Pacquiao's leftovers? Of course we know, "we're not fighting to see who the best is, we're in the cheque cashing business"
I'm surprised so many people are saying no. Although I seriously doubt Cotto will win, I can see him causing Mayweather a lot of trouble. He's got a decent, strong jab, he's pretty accurate with his punches and he's generally pretty tough.
That said, I think Mayweather takes it on points...
Cotto will get embarassed, and those jabs will be countered as soon as he puts them out there.
I'm surprised so many people are saying no. Although I seriously doubt Cotto will win, I can see him causing Mayweather a lot of trouble. He's got a decent, strong jab, he's pretty accurate with his punches and he's generally pretty tough.
That said, I think Mayweather takes it on points...
hell no--but cotto is a fighter--he will train hard and he will lose----he's always had a tempered pace which has been tricky against faster fighters but he's never faced a fighter like floyd, he's not fighting manny--he's fighting a complete fighter---he showed some success against manny in the 1st couple of rounds until the kd's--but i don't see him being nothing more than a moving punching back against floyd who will systematically wear his ass down and stop him in the mid rounds---
I think current Cotto is better than Hatton after he barely got pass Collazo.
I can see an argument for Ortiz because of the power and southpaw stance.
I can see your point. People still wanted to see Mayweather vs. Hatton though, and Hatton was highly regarded, even if he struggled with Collazo, who's not that bad of a fighter. But I get what your saying.
I have to say NO.
It's no disrespect against Cotto but Mayweather is the best of the best. He's going to pick Cotto apart and I just don't see anything he can do to change that. Cotto is outmatched in almost every single category and if he comes forward, goes backwards, it makes no difference, Mayweather will beat him.
It's a good pay day for Cotto and I'm glad he got it, he deserves it but it won't be very competitive.
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I think he has a better chance than Marquez, Baldomir, and Mosley, and about the same chances as Ortiz and Hatton.
The only people I'd really say have a good chance to beat Floyd are probably Pacquiao and Sergio.
That's not to say that Cotto, Ortiz, Hatton, and the others weren't good fights, but I don't envision them beating Floyd.
I think current Cotto is better than Hatton after he barely got pass Collazo.
I can see an argument for Ortiz because of the power and southpaw stance.
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