Manny's wins: Sasakul, Ledwaba, Lucero, Barrera I, Velazquez, Morales II, Larios, Morales III, Solis, Barrera II, Marquez II, Diaz, De La Hoya, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito, Mosley, and Marquez III.
Manny's losses or draws: Torrecampo, Singsurat, Sanchez (draw), Marquez I )draw), and Morales I.
Where do you rank him on the GOAT list???
I have him right around the Top 30 to me.
A guy who voted Pacquiao the greatest of all time...is calling people who voted him not a top 100 ATG delusional :rofl:
Pot. Kettle. Black.
Why is this? Many think Pac is a CANDIDATE for no1 as hes done things not done before in the sport of boxing. Having done things not done before in the sport of boxing, dont qualify you as outside the top 100!
I view you with suspicion as you voted pac 31 to 40. I cant qualify you as a downright hater, and your name has escaped my radar. The reloaded, im so sorry, speedkillz and brotherjays . bigdunns, sharkboy have my eye on.
Pac is definately above Floyd for sure, but then again so are many others so that isnt too hard too do.
I think the voting system should have been 1-5 so as to not offend some people who hark back to the past.
kids going into boxing today who have aspirations to be the best ever, may look at Pacs record and think they cant achieve what Pac has done so will not take up the sport, so the career has ended before its even begun.
For the few voters who voted Pac below 100 they do boxing a disservice. They want to manufacture an image of Pac as a some kind of joke, and that is of no benefit to boxing at all. If kids see people see Pac as a joke, having achieved all that he has, there would be no point in taking boxing up.A guy who voted Pacquiao the greatest of all time...is calling people who voted him not a top 100 ATG delusional :rofl:
Pot. Kettle. Black.
I dont know but definitely above Floyd..
Pac is definately above Floyd for sure, but then again so are many others so that isnt too hard too do.
I think the voting system should have been 1-5 so as to not offend some people who have a particular disliking to Pac and are spiteful.
kids going into boxing today who have aspirations to be the best ever, may look at Pacs record and think they cant achieve what Pac has done so will not take up the sport, so the career has ended before its even begun.
For the few voters who voted Pac below 100 they do boxing a disservice. They want to manufacture an image of Pac as a some kind of joke, and that is of no benefit to boxing at all. If kids see people see Pac as a joke, having achieved all that he has, there would be no point in taking boxing up.
everyone seems to put everyone in the top 30 or 40
roy jones, hopkins, mayweather, pacquiao, apperently all around that mark
Yeah, it's really hard to make the TOP 20.
"I have him between 51-75. honestly anyone ranking the guy higher than 50 at this point is *****ting on a lot of great fighters over the last 100 years. Manny's wins over Barrera and Morales have been extremely exaggerated. Most fighters back in the day were fighting at high levels and meaningful fights well into their mid to late thirties, while guys like Barrera, Morales, Diaz, Clottey, Margarito, ect flamed out by the time they hit their thirties."
The Truck
would love to see your top 50...=)
if your 16 and young and/or your Filipino then to you he is Top 3 All Time :nonono:
If your 25 and older and you are a TRUE BOXING FAN and love, know and respect the History of the Sport then you know that he would be lucky to Crack Top 50 on a All Time List
Sorry but this ERA is not good enough for me to rate Pacquiao and even Mayweather, sorry but the highest Rated All Time Fighter that is still active today is Bernard Hopkins!
His Resume>Mayweather and Pacquiao...EASILY!
green!!!!!...B.Hop is the GREATEST of the active fighters atm...been saying this for a while now!!!
"I have him between 51-75. honestly anyone ranking the guy higher than 50 at this point is *****ting on a lot of great fighters over the last 100 years. Manny's wins over Barrera and Morales have been extremely exaggerated. Most fighters back in the day were fighting at high levels and meaningful fights well into their mid to late thirties, while guys like Barrera, Morales, Diaz, Clottey, Margarito, ect flamed out by the time they hit their thirties."
The Truck
Manny's wins: Sasakul, Ledwaba, Lucero, Barrera I, Velazquez, Morales II, Larios, Morales III, Solis, Barrera II, Marquez II, Diaz, De La Hoya, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito, Mosley, and Marquez III.
Manny's losses or draws: Torrecampo, Singsurat, Sanchez (draw), Marquez I )draw), and Morales I.
Where do you rank him on the GOAT list???
I have him right around the Top 30 to me.
i got him somewhere 40-50 and 95% of his ticket to the hof is based on his career at 130 and below. the mab/morales.jmm fights were his best. he got a lot of handpicked guys to say the least his 135 belt meant nothing nate campbell held 3/4 belts but manny fought david freakin diaz. cotto damaged/weight drained, oscar weight drained, didnt win a belt at 147 ( catchweight 145, or at 154 catchweight in a purse bid against a guy with no good wins coming off a cheating scandal) mayweather is higher but not a whole lot. mabye 10-20 places better.
i also have a very hard time hearing an argument for hopkins being ranked higher than roy. i understand your logic but i just disagree at boxings core roots. doesnt matter what roy is doing now there is a reason hopkins stayed at middle and roy chased the stars.
You forgot Pac started from 106. How many boxer did you see started from 106 beating a bum at 135, let alone a champ, not to mention the like of Hatton, Cotto, Mosley and Margarito.
Manny's wins: Sasakul, Ledwaba, Lucero, Barrera I, Velazquez, Morales II, Larios, Morales III, Solis, Barrera II, Marquez II, Diaz, De La Hoya, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito, Mosley, and Marquez III.
Manny's losses or draws: Torrecampo, Singsurat, Sanchez (draw), Marquez I )draw), and Morales I.
Where do you rank him on the GOAT list???
I have him right around the Top 30 to me.
Definitely far ahead from Mayweather.
hype job for sure
-peds
-illegal wrap stacking
-a despicable person outside the ring
-fights nothing but walking punch bags
-weight drains
the list goes on, he will never be GOAT status.
i got him somewhere 40-50 and 95% of his ticket to the hof is based on his career at 130 and below. the mab/morales.jmm fights were his best. he got a lot of handpicked guys to say the least his 135 belt meant nothing nate campbell held 3/4 belts but manny fought david freakin diaz. cotto damaged/weight drained, oscar weight drained, didnt win a belt at 147 ( catchweight 145, or at 154 catchweight in a purse bid against a guy with no good wins coming off a cheating scandal) mayweather is higher but not a whole lot. mabye 10-20 places better.
i also have a very hard time hearing an argument for hopkins being ranked higher than roy. i understand your logic but i just disagree at boxings core roots. doesnt matter what roy is doing now there is a reason hopkins stayed at middle and roy chased the stars.
No, he will be higher, just too dominant for too long, since his wins over Morales and Co. for how many years is that? A whole career basically of 10 years nearly. He had a hiccup against Morales as well, but went on be the only man to stop him to this very day, so probably tells me he had a off night against Morales when he lost.
Only one fighter has given him any problems JMM, yet i think most people felt JMM was one punch away from being knocked out in all 3 fights, and if you wanted JMM to win, hoped he could survive really. Survival is the impression i get when watching fight Pac.
Floyd has been equally as dominant as Pacquiao and since 1998, 14 years. Pacquiao has been dominant as well, since 2002/2003, about 11-12 years now.
NO ONE thought Marquez was about to be KO'd in the 3rd fight, what the f**k were you watching??? Most people think Marquez deserved a decision over pacquiao in one of the fights at the very least. And lets not forget that Erik Morales beat Manny as well before Erik himself lost to Raheem.
If someone is being objective, there is no way you can place Pacquiao outside of the Top 50 or inside the Top 10-15. I got Pac and Floyd around Top 30, I voted for 21-30.