Hasnt the recent Cotto-May fight proven that if Pacquiao...

Mayweather Jr would prefer to fight Pacman' leftover; Mayweather Jr doesn't really like Arum cos he is old like Merchant and Floyd SR., can you hear Mayweather jr saying good things about Don King? King is old man too.

What about bloating them up, ie hatton and JMM, does that count in the floyd fans rule book of criminal offenses? Did i hear you say bloating people up is ok? So Floyd should bloat hiimself up to fight Sergio at 160 very soon hopefully.hugh, now you know better than that kiddo--you and i have been apart of this forum for a long time and we have gone at each other's neck before---you know hatton wanted no parts of floyd back in 2004 and 2005 at 140 lbs...you know this---hatton was naturally bigger than floyd---and just think---floyd, at the time was one of the smallest ww's in the division---hatton started at 140 lbs--floyd at 130 lbs---hatton weighed more than floyd fight night if i'm not mistaken---jmm, i'll give you but like i said before--floyd never ever said he would come in at 144 lbs--not once---i mean, imo it's a double standard---jmm came in at 142 lbs--the smaller you are, the faster you are imo---should he have been fined? floyd only took jmm as a tune up bout--we know this---and the only reason he even took it as that was because he wanted to spit in oscar's face seeing how oscar tried to take all of the money in the rematch with floyd and oscar losing to a guy he made move up 2 weight divisions---floyd gave oscar a fuk you by showing him what to do against a smaller guy---it was also a slap to manny--seeing how many people felt he lost to jmm in their rematch in 2008----he wanted to put fear in manny, which he did and is still doing, and put humbleness into oscar which he did until oscar once again realized that he's oscar de la hoya and he's allowed to have an ego--so he goes and dresses in drag just to take photos of it-- call me looney, but if you ask me, floyd accomplished what he set out to do-lol

WEIGHT DRAINED OSCAR http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpL6n0F3bX4 MOSLEY COMING OFF A DRAW, AND AN ASS WHOOPIN TO FLOYD. FLOYD FOUGHT HIM AFTER MARGS WAS DOMINATED... HATTON: AN ass whoopin to Floyd first defeat via knock out.... and was almost knocked out again in his fight before Pac.... floyd on the other hand... #2 p4p Marquez whom gave him fits... #1 ranked welter in mosley, when everyone stated he was scared... Ortiz whom actually won a belt, unlike manny fighting for a 154 title without either fighter being at 154 (catchweight) Winning diamond belts and shat lol that link above tells it all... STARTING @ 6:15-6:35 HE STATES HE WANTS TO CATCHWEIGHT, TAKE SOMETHING AWAY FROM FLOYD AS WELL.... LMAO THIS SHAT IS TOO EASY...well done soldier-lol you remind me of------------------------- well..........me-lmao-- i don't even need to help you out----very well points you're making--keep it up---

one major difference, floyd doesn't have to drain his opponents down to 145 he fights them at their real weight. What about bloating them up, ie hatton and JMM, does that count in the floyd fans rule book of criminal offenses? Did i hear you say bloating people up is ok? So Floyd should bloat hiimself up to fight Sergio at 160 very soon hopefully.

Prove that hes fighting a better Miguel than Pac did! Cotto beat the margarito Pac busted up, and Yuri, is he as good as Clottey even? Funny how when Pac beats someone they come back stronger, Pac beat a weak Cotto, when Floyd beats them he ruins them and supposedly Floyd is fighting a strong Cotto?. one major difference, floyd doesn't have to drain his opponents down to 145 he fights them at their real weight.

Floyd aint ducking no one, he is fighting a better Miguel Cotto than Pac did. Prove that hes fighting a better Miguel than Pac did! Cotto beat the margarito Pac busted up, and Yuri, is he as good as Clottey even? Funny how when Pac beats someone they come back stronger, Pac beat a weak Cotto, when Floyd beats them he ruins them and supposedly Floyd is fighting a strong Cotto? They have to give FLoyd credit on a tecnicality all the time, beg borrow and steal. Floyd beat a better hatton, DLH, JMM, SSM, Cotto his fans will tell ya.

Who was the bigger fighter when he fought Mosley, Cotto, Marg, and even Clottey... And you still ignore the weight draining , timing of when he fights them in regard to their form , the special circumstance that surround each fight like Margos monster ring on top of weight draining , the ducking of Mosley in form to wanting Mosley when shot , the ducking of Cotto without a CW . And all because you have no clue of the science side of boxing , your still a dimwit fanboy that is delusional in spite of cold hard numbers and fact .

Nope, Ortiz took Berto's 0 and showed heart in doing so. Much bigger accomplishment than a technical decision over declining Zab Judah. He's also naturally much bigger than Floyd. Is it the styles that made their third fight so close? Manny said he just didn't train as hard because he thought Marquez couldn't compete at 144 and was on his way out. Sure.. but who is Berto.. He is an overrated paper champ who had not fight a single credible WW.. ... Clottey fought Judah, Marg, Cotto at their best.. All of whom were great fights.. He is been there against the best at his division and made a great fight out of it...And he certainly a lot bigger than Ortiz.. Manny is just making up excuses which he shouldnt because he won that fight (at least officially).. The point is Pac/JMM will always just based on styles...

Ortiz was a career LWW (and not very good at that).. Not to mention that he didnt beat any one of credibility at that division. If you consider Clottey as a farce, then by that standard you should do the same with Ortiz... JMM was not only made to move up, he was also cheated on the scales, and had his training camp disrupted.. So that right there is already a minus on Floyd in terms of credibility.. And Pac and JMM fights will always be close. Those 2 guys know each others style to well to make it always a close fight... Nope, Ortiz took Berto's 0 and showed heart in doing so. Much bigger accomplishment than a technical decision over declining Zab Judah. He's also naturally much bigger than Floyd. Is it the styles that made their third fight so close? Manny said he just didn't train as hard because he thought Marquez couldn't compete at 144 and was on his way out.

The JMM fight was a stretch, though Floyd was coming off a 2-year layoff. And we also now know that JMM was able to give Manny hell (beat him arguably) at the same weight 2 years later. Don't understand how the Ortiz fight was a farce. Ortiz was a career LWW (and not very good at that).. Not to mention that he didnt beat any one of credibility at that division. If you consider Clottey as a farce, then by that standard you should do the same with Ortiz... JMM was not only made to move up, he was also cheated on the scales, and had his training camp disrupted.. So that right there is already a minus on Floyd in terms of credibility.. And Pac and JMM fights will always be close. Those 2 guys know each others style to well to make it always a close fight...

And Floyd is not the same.. Floyd fights against Ortiz, JMM were all a farce too..At least based on your standards.. The best fight he had at WW or JWW was against Mosley...But only based on status... The JMM fight was a stretch, though Floyd was coming off a 2-year layoff. And we also now know that JMM was able to give Manny hell (beat him arguably) at the same weight 2 years later. Don't understand how the Ortiz fight was a farce.

Mosley fight was worthless, Cotto fight was his best win above 130 but he still felt the need to make it at 145, Marg fight was worthless, and the Clottey fight was filler- another worthless fight against a guy who last lost to the last guy Manny beat. They should've named the event "Manny Pacquiao Fights at Cowboys Stadium." And Floyd is not the same.. Floyd fights against Ortiz, JMM were all a farce too..At least based on your standards.. And this is coming from a fighter who fights once a year since 2007. The best fight he had at WW or JWW was against Mosley...But only based on status...

Who was the bigger fighter when he fought Mosley, Cotto, Marg, and even Clottey... Mosley fight was worthless, Cotto fight was his best win above 130 but he still felt the need to make it at 145, Marg fight was worthless, and the Clottey fight was filler- another worthless fight against a guy who last lost to the last guy Manny beat. They should've named the event "Manny Pacquiao Fights at Cowboys Stadium."

did the flomos get a hold of those memory erasing pills again?

It also proves Pacquiao doesn't take fights where he can't gain an advantage before stepping into the ring. As does him saying on record after JMM III that he overlooked Marquez because he thought he was older and ineffective at the weight. Surprised there was never any backlash from the same boxing media that labeled Floyd a cherry-picked. Who was the bigger fighter when he fought Mosley, Cotto, Marg, and even Clottey...

It also proves Pacquiao doesn't take fights where he can't gain an advantage before stepping into the ring. As does him saying, on record after JMM III, that he overlooked Marquez because he thought he was older and ineffective at the weight. Surprised there was never any backlash from the same boxing media that labeled Floyd a cherry-picker. Makes you wonder.

lol you have lost you ahve nothing further to say, floyd is the only undefeated fighter @ welterweight besides bradley.... So using your logic pac still is behind I have chewed up all your argument and then some.. The fact that you kept changing the subject and premise of this argument is already proof enough.. You went from Pac fighting coming from loses to Pac losing his recent fights, and now Floyd being undefeated.. All because you cant refute the previous post so you keep coming up with a new one. lmao

OKAY THIS IS THE LAST TIME I WILL OWN YOU TONIGHT...ITS GETTING BORING http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?p=11836537#post11836537 Mayweather will receive a portion of the gate, concessions, souvenirs and PPV revenue. Richard Schaefer of Golden Boy Promotions explained the structure to the NY Times. Via NY Times: To explain the business model, Schaeffer starts with a pie. A little more than half goes to the distributors (Time Warner, DirecTV, etc.). The balance goes to the network, HBO or Showtime, which takes its distribution fees and hands the rest to the promoters. In this case, Golden Boy has one contract with HBO and another with Mayweather Promotions. But the money, less what distributors and networks take, is under Mayweather’s control; normally the promoter would control it. In addition, there is the PPV revenue which Schaeffer includes other revenue streams from that: Those streams include foreign sales for a fight broadcast in 168 territories; closed-circuit revenues (in 2,000 or so bars and restaurants nationwide, in theaters and in rooms at Las Vegas casinos); site revenue (ticket sales, merchandise); and sponsorships. Its an unprecedented payment structure that rationalizes the opulence Mayweather flaunts. But for the spoils, there is the risk as Mayweather, or Mayweather Promotions, must put up $10 million in expenses to market the fight. THERE YA GO, AND KEEP IN MIND I stated all of this before Floyd came out with the reason, notice how they are the same, its because its simple mathematics, but hatred clouds your mind young padawan... AND THIS IS NOT FLOYD TALKING THIS IS RICHARD SCHAEFER FROM THE NEW (JEW) YORK TIMES... Is that legit enough for you??? Oh dont give me that crap.. Where did that came from.. Golden Boy, Floyd..lol.. Pac receives the same sh!t that Floyd's get in his fights.. In any case, Floyd couldnt give more PPV's to the table as Pac since both are equally popular and revenue wise both are the same....

X2 OF THOSE PEOPLE LOST TO FLOYD AS WELL, AND HE GAVE HATTON HIS FORST LOSS, AND SET A compubox record on Marquez's ass the guy that Pac just lost to.. And one of them about to get his ass whooped on may 5th... If you dont think so lets bet...lol FUNFACT: PAC WAS HIT WITH A WATER BOTTLE LAST FIGHT.... The masses called it bro... HE LOST LOL THATS ENOUGH OWNAGE IM ABOUT TO GO EAT SOMETHING GOOD SON.... Dont change the subject moron.. The fact is that Floyd fought fighters coming of a lose. And if you consider only recent victories then you should do the same with Pac... Here is another fun fact.. People walked out of Floyd's fight against Baldo.. Now go eat your humble pie...lmao..

WOULD YOU INVEST MILLIONS IN A PROJECT AND THEN ONLY BE TOLD YOU MUST GIVE ME 50% WHEN I HAVENT INVESTED ANYTHING?? AND keep in mind ARUM invests, but Pac doesnt see that money... I have already broken this down for the simple masses, the sheeple... ANSWER MY QUESTION... WOULD YOU GO TO WORK AND GIVE UP HALF YOUR PAYCHECK TO SOMEONE THAT DIDNT INVEST IN THE BUSINESS YOU STARTED??? MAYWEATHER IS SHOWN TO INVEST UP TO 10 MILLION IN HIS FIGHTS BEFORE THE FIGHT TAKES PLACE. HE HAS THE MONEY SON... BS.. HBO is investing in the business not anyone else.. The paycheck will be coming from HBO.. Dont kid yourself..lol... The only real promoter is GB and Top Rank.. Floyd promotion is nothing more than a shell company.. How many fights that didnt involve him that he co-promoted in a nationwide basis..