Pay-per-view Stats -- help always accepted but please supply a source! Good accurate info is tough to confirm.
Date --- Fighters ------ Est. Buys ---Rev./millions
2007-00-00--- De La Hoya L 12 Mayweatrher --- 2.487.000---$134.4
1997-06-28--- Tyson LDQ 3 Holyfield --- 1.990.000 --- $100
2002-06-08--- Tyson LKO 8 Lewis --- 1.800.000--- $103
1996-11-09--- Tyson LK 11 Holyfield --- 1.600.000--- $53
1995-08-19--- Tyson W DQ 1 McNeeley --- 1.580.000---
2011-11-12 Pacquiao/Marquez III 1.415.000
2010-05-01 Mayweather/Mosley 1.410.000
1991-04-19--- Foreman L 12 Holyfield --- 1.400.000---
1999-09-18--- De La Hoya W 12 Trinidad --- 1.400.000--- $71.4
0000-00-00--- Tyson KO 5 Bruno --- 1.400.000
2011-05-07 Pacquiao/Mosley 1.300.000
2009-11-14 Pacquiao/Cotto 1.265.000
2011-09-17 Mayweather/Ortiz 1.255.000
0000-00-00--- De La Hoya TKO by Pacquiao --- 1.250.000--- $70.0
1999.03.13--- Lewis-Holyfield I --- 1.200.000
2010.11.13 Pacquiao/Margarito 1.160.000
2009.09.19 Mayweather/Marquez 1.130.000
2004-09-00--- De La Hoya LK 9 Hopkins --- 1.000.000 ---$56
2003-09-00--- De La Hoya L 12 Mosely II --- 950.000 --- $48.4
2002-09-00--- De La Hoya KO 11 Vargas --- 935.000--- $47.8
0000-00-00--- mayweather KO 10 Hatton --- 915.000---
2006-05-00--- De La Hoya KO Mayorga --- 875.000--- $43.8
2009-00-00--- Pacquiao KO 2 Hatton --- 825.000---
1999-11-13--- Lewis W 12 Holyfield II --- 800.000
2010-03-13 Pacquiao/Clottey 730.000
1997-04-00--- De La Hoya W 12 Whitaker --- 720.000--- $28.8
1999-01-00--- Tyson KO 5 Botha --- 700.000
2011-12-03 Cotto/Margarito II 620.000
0000-00-00--- De La Hoya W 12 Quartey --- 570.000--- $25.7
1997-09-00--- De La Hoya W 12 Camacho --- 560.000---
2000-06-00--- De La Hoya L 12 Mosely --- 588,000--- $29.5
1994-04-22--- Holyfield L 12 Moorer --- 550.000---
1998-09-00--- De La Hoya-Chavez --- 545.000--- $23.6
2003-00-00--- Jones W 12 Ruiz --- 535.000--- $26.5 --- HBO
2000-00-00--- Trinidad KO 12 Vargas --- 520.000---
2001-09-00--- Hopkins KO 12 Trinidad --- 480.000---
2005-xx-05--- Hopkins L 12 Tailor --- 410.000---
2005-10-00 --- Tarver W 12 Jones (III) --- 405,000 ---
2000-05-00--- Tarver KO 2 Jones (II) --- 382,000 or 275.000?
2004-06-05--- De La Hoya W 12 Sturm/Hopkins --- 380.000--- $19
2005-06-xx --- Mayweather TKO 6 Gatti --- 340,000
0000-00-00--- Lewis KO 2 Grant --- 330.000
2004-11-00--- Barrera W 12 Morales (III) --- 325.000--- $14
2002-06-00--- Barrera W 12 Morales II --- 300.000--- $12
2003-11-00--- Jones W 12 Tarver (I) --- 304,000
0000-00-00--- Tyson NC 3 Golota --- 300.000
2004-05-00--- Jones LK 2 Tarver (II) --- 275.000--- $12 diff info now
2008-10-xx--- Hopkins-Pavlik ---------------190,000
1980-06-20--- Duran W 15 Leonard ---- 155.000--- $1.55
1993-03-19--- M. Carbajal KO 7 H. Gonzales --- 150.000
2004-07-31--- Erik Morales-Carlos Hernandez --- 140,000
0000-00-00--- Morales-Ayala --- 125.000
0000-00-00--- V. Klitscko KO D. Williams --- 120.000 ---75.000?
2001-06-08--- Ali W 8 Frazier --- 100.000 female
http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/cbzforum/showthread.php?2177-PPV-early-draft
Of the top 25 PPVs, only 5 top draw names gets on the list. These are the following (including the number of times they appeared on the list):
#1 ODLH - 7 times
#2 Pacquiao - 6 (+1 but not the top draw w/ DLH)
#3 Tyson - 5
#4 Mayweather - 4 (+1 but not the top draw w/ DLH)
#5 Lewis - 2
There are only 4 fights in the top 25 PPVs where both fighters were non-Americans, and these are:
#1 Pacquiao/Marquez
#2 Pacquiao/ Margarito
#3 Pacquiao/Hatton
#4 Pacquiao/Clottey
Question:
What conclusions can you make from these stats?
Becuse that's what the topic starter meant it to be. A Mayweather crazy knows no shame, and devises all sorts of tricks to get his loved one's name up on the board. Consider that when Tyson was making those huge numbers PPV was in it's comparative infancy, so Tyson and then DelaHoya are really the top PV draws of all time to date.
This fact still doesn't diminish what Floyd has been able to do for the sport.
how did this become a thread about Floyd??all those names on there and this becomes a floyd thread??
Becuse that's what the topic starter meant it to be. A Mayweather crazy knows no shame, and devises all sorts of tricks to get his loved one's name up on the board. Consider that when Tyson was making those huge numbers PPV was in it's comparative infancy, so Tyson and then DelaHoya are really the top PV draws of all time to date.
Pacquiao has sure done well for a little guy from the Philippines- over a million with Marquez, Mosley, Cotto, Margaritio, and De La Hoya. Solid numbers with Hatton and Clottey---and all this doesn't take into account PPV outside of the USA. Here in Canada Pacquiao has a large following and lots of people buy the PPVs, but they don't get listed here. For Pacquiao to consistently outdraw US fighters in their own country, despite a lack of trash talk and fairly dull 24/7s, you've really got to give the guy credit.
The international PPV buys aren't reported at all by boxing. The UFC does it but for some reason boxing hasn't picked up on this yet. UFC use it as a way of inflating their numbers to create the illusion they're getting bigger buys than boxing. Nearly half of their buys come from Canada, if boxing reported its Canadian buys their PPV numbers would almost double. The UFC's international PPVs aren't actually anything to shout about. If Hopkins-Dawson did around 50k from the US it likely would have gotten closer to 300k when the rest of the world are added in. A piece of **** match like Hopkins can top the UFC's average PPV buys for 2011.
Tyson-Lewis is well known to have done 800k buys in just the UK - so between two countries they managed 3 million buys. Likewise Pac-Hatton and Hatton-Mayweather both managed over 1 million buys in the UK bringing their total buys closer to 2 million. David Haye was getting more than a million buys by fighting guys like Audley, Ruiz, and Valuev.
Tyson was a beast selling PPV's.
Tyson, DLH, Mayweather, Pacquiao, Holyfield...the 5 PPV beasts of the last 20 years.
My prediction for the next 5 PPV stars: Alvarez, Donaire, Broner, well I can't think of two more but wishful thinking has me saying Ward and Gamboa. I would say Bradley, but something about his style, I think it will put fans off and he'll be like Holyfield of the first 5 guys, in which he's going to NEED a big PPV star in order to sell decent numbers, but he can't really fight a Clottey, or Bruno, or Ortiz and sell 1Mill+ by himself.
Pacquiao has sure done well for a little guy from the Philippines- over a million with Marquez, Mosley, Cotto, Margaritio, and De La Hoya. Solid numbers with Hatton and Clottey---and all this doesn't take into account PPV outside of the USA. Here in Canada Pacquiao has a large following and lots of people buy the PPVs, but they don't get listed here. For Pacquiao to consistently outdraw US fighters in their own country, despite a lack of trash talk and fairly dull 24/7s, you've really got to give the guy credit.
Yes probably
Tyson started his PPV run in the complete opposite direction then Floyd. He started out real big and then fizzled out at the end.
He had 12 PPV fights and out of the top 5, he had 4 of them
If Floyd ends up fighting Cotto, Pacquiao, and maybe Alvarez (I really hope it's only if Saul beats Kirkland though), he could end having some of the highest selling as well. He has De La Hoya at 2.4 million and Mosley at 1.4 million. Cotto will most likely do anywhere from 1.3-1.5 probably, Pacquiao would no doubt break 2 million and may beat Floyd-Oscar, and Alvarez if he becomes a PPV star by the time 2013 rolls around, could easily do a ton as well.
I stand corrected. Floyd could end up beating him on that, depending on how he finishes his career PPV sales wise.
Yes probably
Tyson started his PPV run in the complete opposite direction then Floyd. He started out real big and then fizzled out at the end.
He had 12 PPV fights and out of the top 5, he had 4 of them
Damn DLH was a serious money earner....he's all over that list.
His appeal across the spectrum was amazing. the right guy for the ppv explosion period.
Im pretty sure Tyson beats him
Tyson averaged 1.0333333 Mil per fight
I stand corrected. Floyd could end up beating him on that, depending on how he finishes his career PPV sales wise.
But according to most, Mayweather only does big PPV's because he has Saul Alvarez on the card, or because he's fighting someone else big.
Mayweather did 1.25 million PPV's with Ortiz, the same number that Manny did with Oscar and Cotto, and 300K more buys than Oscar did with Shane Mosley.
That alone kills that logic. Oscar and Manny would not have done 1.25 million PPV's with Ortiz, sorry. Oscar cracked 1 million PPV's 4 times, and 2 of those times were with Floyd and Manny.
If you ask me, Floyd and Manny have legit claims at being bigger PPV draws than even Oscar was. I know Oscar has the 2.4 million, but Floyd was a part of that too, and did his due to help sell that fight. The most Floyd has sold without Oscar was 1.4 million with Shane and the most Oscar sold without Floyd was 1.4 million with Felix.