37,000 tickets + sold for Klitschko/Mormeck

The Klitschkos are boring dude, nobody wants to see that ****, you need to have an exciting style like Tyson (also accepted that villain role) to bring in the mega fight money. What is so fcking hard to understand about that? There are millions of wrestling fans in America, FAKE wrestling that they know is scripted, they watch it for the personalities. Floyd Mayweather accepted the villain role and ran with it, he's one of the greatest fighters in the history of boxing and only recently did he start making superstar money. He did a GREAT job of promoting himself through WWE (fake wrestling), being introduced to the youth of America by Rapper 50 Cent who has millions of fans, and beating DLH one of the most popular fighters in boxing history. Floyd is the ONLY black fighter in America that makes that kind of money, guys like Ward, Dawson, Hopkins, Bradley, Cloud, etc. are all ignored in the media. The ONLY boxers I've ever heard talked about in the media is Mayweather/Pacquiao and Hopkins for his controversial comments. I've NEVER heard a single word about guys like Ward on TV. So you're saying people only find boxing interesting if someone fights like Tyson or plays the villain role. And Europeans watch boxing because they are nationalists. Got any more jokes? :lol1:

Another fight for Wlad on HBO or Showtime. A true cash cow.

comon, if the k bros were black and american they would be heralded as the greatest fighters ever. The Klitschkos are boring dude, nobody wants to see that ****, you need to have an exciting style like Tyson (also accepted that villain role) to bring in the mega fight money. What is so fcking hard to understand about that? There are millions of wrestling fans in America, FAKE wrestling that they know is scripted, they watch it for the personalities. Floyd Mayweather accepted the villain role and ran with it, he's one of the greatest fighters in the history of boxing and only recently did he start making superstar money. He did a GREAT job of promoting himself through WWE (fake wrestling), being introduced to the youth of America by Rapper 50 Cent who has millions of fans, and beating DLH one of the most popular fighters in boxing history. Floyd is the ONLY black fighter in America that makes that kind of money, guys like Ward, Dawson, Hopkins, Bradley, Cloud, etc. are all ignored in the media. The ONLY boxers I've ever heard talked about in the media is Mayweather/Pacquiao and Hopkins for his controversial comments. I've NEVER heard a single word about guys like Ward on TV.

Damn your stupidity breaches all limits, unbelievable. Labelling Europe a country says more than enough someone needs to know about your intelligence level. :lol1: But I assume you never were in Europe and got most of your knowledge from Fox News, so you can believe me when I say Europeans (especially Germans, who are very sophisticated and open-minded) don't watch someone box because he is white or Ukrainian but because they simply like to watch the fight. Hard to belive for you, I can see that. I meant continent not country lmfao. You act as if there are no Russians living in Germany when there are TONS that live there. Soccer's popularity throughout the world, especially in Europe is fueled by nationalist fans. It's the reason Soccer is the most popular sport in the world with BILLIONS of fans, it's Country vs. Country, Mexico vs. Brazil, Germany vs. France, Switzerland vs. Ukraine etc.! You can read HUNDREDS of articles on nationalism in Soccer. If you think NONE of these millions of soccer fans that live in Germany are nationalists then you're an idiot. These SAME fans are fans of the Bros. It's common ****ing sense that a country filled with nationalists, would be fans of these fighters. Even most of the Klitschko fans on this forum are nationalists lmfao. Europe also has a **** load of racists, especially in Germany, racism and nationalism almost go hand in hand. If you think them also being white has nothing to do with their popularity you're ignorant as ****. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8347040.stm ^An example of racists in Germany. I'm sure NONE of there fans are nationlists or racists. I love how Klitschko fans always say they couldn't make it in America because people are racist towards Eastern Europeans lmfao.

If you think it has nothing to do with nationalism you're an idiot. Europe is filled with nationalist sports fans, especially in soccer, even the basketball fans are nationalists lmao I know from experience. Guys like the Bros, Sturm, Ottke etc. are all boring, boring fighters made popular by their race and nationality. It's exciting to them because of what their country men winning represents for them, it's not just a game or a fight, it's more than that to the fans. And if you think race has nothing to do with their popularity in Europe (a predominantly white country) you're even dumber than I thought. The intelligence i would expect from a Texan based on what iv seen from American TV and Movies. Way to live up to the ignorant stereotype of your folks!!

If you think it has nothing to do with nationalism you're an idiot. Europe is filled with nationalist sports fans, especially in soccer, even the basketball fans are nationalists lmao I know from experience. Guys like the Bros, Sturm, Ottke etc. are all boring, boring fighters made popular by their race and nationality. It's exciting to them because of what their country men winning represents for them, it's not just a game or a fight, it's more than that to the fans. And if you think race has nothing to do with their popularity in Europe (a predominantly white country) you're even dumber than I thought. Damn your stupidity breaches all limits, unbelievable. Labelling Europe a country says more than enough someone needs to know about your intelligence level. :lol1: But I assume you never were in Europe and got most of your knowledge from Fox News, so you can believe me when I say Europeans (especially Germans, who are very sophisticated and open-minded) don't watch someone box because he is white or Ukrainian but because they simply like to watch the fight. Hard to belive for you, I can see that.

In Germany probably. Couldn't fill out a small High School gym in American I bet. comon, if the k bros were black and american they would be heralded as the greatest fighters ever.

Millions of fans do think it's exciting, and if you really think that's because of nationalism then you're dumber than I thought. If you think it has nothing to do with nationalism you're an idiot. Europe is filled with nationalist sports fans, especially in soccer, even the basketball fans are nationalists lmao I know from experience. Guys like the Bros, Sturm, Ottke etc. are all boring, boring fighters made popular by their race and nationality. It's exciting to them because of what their country men winning represents for them, it's not just a game or a fight, it's more than that to the fans. And if you think race has nothing to do with their popularity in Europe (a predominantly white country) you're even dumber than I thought.

Then why are they so huge over there, but over here they can't even get on HBO anymore? You're not fooling anybody. ..and HBO is a sports authority? Why are the NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL, UFC, soccer or tennis not on HBO?

Germany and England traditionally have MASSIVE sporting crowds for ANY event that is linked to their country. There is a reason the Klithsckos attempt to promote themselves in Germany and not in Italy lol. Yeah that Germans aren´t broke as ****. :theyareon Btw Germany has had more big cards this year than America.The mecca of boxing is sadly in bad shape as a result of HBO/Showtime shutting out the wide public for years. What is the biggest fight that has taken place in America this year? Maidana vs. Alexander, Williams vs. Ishida? And we are already in March. Next up are Sergio Martinez (37 years old), Erik Morales (35 years old), then we have the real first big event of 2012 in America between two young fighters in Rios vs. Gamboa. Ironically Gamboa is a German managed Cuban. On April 28th Hopkins vs. Dawson, which is matched by the European based match-up between Froch and Bute.

Wlad is a boring fighter, and Vitali is too. Nobody wants to see Vitali a 6'7 240lb fighter on his back foot the whole time fighting a nobody like Chisora, you think that's exciting? Millions of fans do think it's exciting, and if you really think that's because of nationalism then you're dumber than I thought.

Cause over there they have an appealing personality. If thuggery is what people like to see in a fighter in America, or a character such as Ali, than class and "well spokeness" of the Klitschkos is what makes them stars. They appear on TV, movies... They are cosmopolitan, and Europeans dont care much for their origin. America might not care about race, but they certainly care about nationality. They want to see Americas fighting and winning and Klitschkos are not Americans. And dont talk to me about Americans watching Mexican fighters, because its the Mexicans in America that come out to see them. Americans care about flashy fighters, it's the way we are. Why do you think FAKE wrestling is so popular in America? People know it's fake yet they watch it for the PERSONALITIES. If that were the case Ward/Bradley/Ortiz/Cloud/Dawson/Hopkins would be superstars, Ward made 750k for his Froch fight MUCH less than Pirog a guy who hasn't fought anybody. Wlad is a boring fighter, and Vitali is too. Nobody wants to see Vitali a 6'7 240lb fighter on his back foot the whole time fighting a nobody like Chisora, you think that's exciting?

Damn that's one heck of a stupid post. Don't act like it's not true, Europe has a ridiculous amount of nationalists. Go ahead and look at ANY youtube video of a european SPORTS team playing another team and I guarantee you that nearly every single comment is about their country vs another especially in Soccer. Nationalists pretty much fuel Soccer's popularity. Wlad is boring as ****, there is nothing exciting about him, every single fight is almost exactly the same as the last.

Then why are they so huge over there, but over here they can't even get on HBO anymore? You're not fooling anybody. Cause over there they have an appealing personality. If thuggery is what people like to see in a fighter in America, or a character such as Ali, than class and "well spokeness" of the Klitschkos is what makes them stars. They appear on TV, movies... They are cosmopolitan, and Europeans dont care much for their origin. America might not care about race, but they certainly care about nationality. They want to see Americas fighting and winning and Klitschkos are not Americans. And dont talk to me about Americans watching Mexican fighters, because its the Mexicans in America that come out to see them.

Not true. At United Center 22k against Briggs 1 and 13k at All State for Briggs 2. And that's just Chicago. I don't even know what he does on the east coast. I looked it up once for a discussion on here and he was doing 5-8k in jersey

Thats impressive considering this is an uncompetitive **** fight.

If Europeans are so nationalist than K Bros would only be popular in Ukraine...not Germany and everywhere else... Do you know what nationalist means??? Holy **** some of you guys are just challenged... How can their nationality be the biggest thing? They are Ukrainians fighting in Germany, how would this make Germans like them on nationality basis? There is no "EURO PRIDE", a German is a German and a Frenchman is a Frenchman, and a Brit is Brit... There is more in common and more unity between an Asian, Black and White Americans than there is between an Italian and a Spaniard.....by a factor of 1000. Ukrainian Communists captured Berlin in WWII for Christ's sake... The only instance of a group or two people identifying as "European" as in some kind of brethren like context would be if they met in a foreign place somewhere in Asia, or wait......America......some place where they stand out enough to be considered different. Then they would say "we are Europeans." Then why are they so huge over there, but over here they can't even get on HBO anymore? You're not fooling anybody.

Here are some numbers that Haye apparently did on PPV alone in the UK on Sky. 800k for Valuev 600k for Ruiz 600k for Harrison They are not official, so I would imagine Wlad vs Haye did 800K+ 800K ppv + 40K+ watching is big beer and i don't care how anyone wants to slice it.

and when Wlad and Vitali fought in USA people came out. Name me American Boxers that can sell out even 10k in USA. 1 person? Look at most Devon Alexander, Timothy Bradley, Ward fights, there's like 70 people in the crowd. Klitschko's do 30k + everytime in Germany (venue providing), if they come to MSG this they will sell the place out The USA is DONE as a top player in the HW division. No one is coming close to the level of talent developing in Europe/Asia. Why even stage the fights in a market that just can't compete? USA HW are more concerned with competing in Man vs. Food than becoming actual decent contenders.

believe me man, if they could get 60-70 bucks per viewing and make money like floyd and manny they would. in germany, the UK, or anywhere else. but they cant. you come to the US for that. i'd say wladimir is probably the third biggest cash cow in the sport he still does not make money in the same atmosphere as floyd mayweather and manny pacquiao. I believe that he is number 3 as well. But they are into a bunch of business ventures....property owners etc...Have a multivitamin, promote a gym brand........they do a lot of things. But from fighting I'm sure Floyd and Manny make more.