Jose Sulaiman reveals a new WBC rule scheduled to be implemented on July 1st universally. A weigh-in at 9.30am on the day of the fight will permit the fighter a maximum of 10% increase in weight above their specific weight division.
Some quick maths shows that this translates to the following limits with the actual weight limit on the left hand side, and the fight-day maximum weight on the right side.
Division Weight - Division - Maximum Weight On Fight Day
105 - Minimumweight - 115.5
108 - Light flyweight - 118.8
112 - Flyweight - 123.2
115 - Super flyweight - 126.5
118 - Bantamweight - 129.8
122 - Super bantamweight -134.2
126 - Featherweight - 138.6
130 - Super featherweight - 143
135 - Lightweight - 148.5
140 - Super lightweight - 154
147 - Welterweight - 161.7
154 - Super welterweight - 169.4
160 - Middleweight - 176
168 - Super middleweight - 184.8
175 - Light heavyweight - 192.5
200 - Cruiserweight - 220
unlimited - Heavyweight - unlimited
This is a absolutely dumb rule.
People don't realize how dangerous it is to fight dehydrated.
People still will cut weight and a retarded rule like this will just increase the risk of deaths in the ring.
Many fans simply don't understand how hard weight-cutting is and seem to think same day weigh-in is the way to go.
No! dehydration in the brain takes days to fully recover and if you have to cut weight 2 times within a day than you going to see so many more deaths.
Dehydrated brain is linked to increased brain trauma from impact.
Thats why American Football players drink pedialytes in games.
Not a dumb rule. If fighters want to try and kill themselves in order to manipulate their weight class, then they are the dumb ones. This rule will help fighters fight within their actual weight division. Coming into the ring 20+lbs over your weight class limit defeats the purpose of having a weight class!
If a fighter is rehydrating over 10% of his weigh-in weight... He doesn't belong in that weight class. The issue is that if other fighters are abusing the rules to have a size advantage on their opponents, how can someone tell the fighters not to?
If the commisions and sanctioning organizations employed a similar rule to this, it'd reduce fighters' suffering a long term injury in the ring and the vast majority of fighters would have to move up a class.
Fighters that rehydrate over 10% (and even less) of their weight from one day to the next, means that they lose around 20% of water weight during training camp. The weight cuts in boxing (and wrestling and MMA) are drastic. It isn't uncommon for fighters to lose 30-40 pounds during training camp; losing 30-40 pounds of (mostly) water weight and then having 1 to recover before taking punishment makes boxing even more dangerous than it is.
Good move by the WBC.
If a fighter rehydrates .01% over his weigh in weight, he doesnt belong in that weight class
If a fighter is rehydrating over 10% of his weigh-in weight... He doesn't belong in that weight class. The issue is that if other fighters are abusing the rules to have a size advantage on their opponents, how can someone tell the fighters not to?
If the commisions and sanctioning organizations employed a similar rule to this, it'd reduce fighters' suffering a long term injury in the ring and the vast majority of fighters would have to move up a class.
Fighters that rehydrate over 10% (and even less) of their weight from one day to the next, means that they lose around 20% of water weight during training camp. The weight cuts in boxing (and wrestling and MMA) are drastic. It isn't uncommon for fighters to lose 30-40 pounds during training camp; losing 30-40 pounds of (mostly) water weight and then having 1 to recover before taking punishment makes boxing even more dangerous than it is.
Good move by the WBC.
Exactly! I've been saying this forever!
i wonder if the math geniuses who defend the ibf rule and shoot this one down understand that 10% is only less than 10 lbs if the weight class is 100 lbs. smh...idiots.
What the fucck are you talking about :rofl:
The only time the WBC 10 pound rule would be less then the IBF rule is if there was a weight class below 100, which there isnt.
What point are you trying to make?
:ugh:
No need for a fighter to have to make weight twice. It is all water at that point, and the fighters should be allowed to rehydrate as much as they need to/can.
Either have one weigh-in the day of, or have it the night before. Not both.
This isn't going to stop fighters from cutting obscene amounts of weight. It's just going to allow the WBC to issue more fines.
Sulaiman did address the issue of fines but he alleges that any fines levied against any particular boxer would be given, in their entirety, to the opponent.
Heres a crazy idea, how about if you are fighting for the 140lb strap you can only weigh 140 during the fight? Crazy Idea right?
Weigh Fighters 1hr before the fight, and have 1 reserve fighter waiting to go.
Im tired of people like Pwilly/JCC/Donaire being 30lb heavier than their opponents on fight night.
Just make em fight at natural weight class, none of this bloating and dehydration. Problem is that alot of Boxers are cowards so they cut until they are almost dead just so they can pick on people 30lb lighter than them on fight night.
i wonder if the math geniuses who defend the ibf rule and shoot this one down understand that 10% is only less than 10 lbs if the weight class is 100 lbs. smh...idiots.
the weigh-in is a BIG part of the fight weekend, adds promo and something to talk about up to the fight. i cant see promoters or even fighters getting on board with this.
It is funny because the reason they put in day before weigh in was for safety reasons and they are pretty much now getting the worst of both worlds.
Foolish stuff and boxers will be the ones paying the price, sad.
Dumb rule, trying to make themselves look more legit like the IBF
But the iBF only allows 10 pounds not 10%
Second of all lets take JCC jr for example. He can weigh in 16 pounds more at 930 AM and then has 12+ hours to rehydrate even more.
This rule will make no difference
"duuuuuh but it's not fair" They still going to cut weight, why shorten their careers and risk their healths by forcing them to dehydrate them self even more?
This is a absolutely dumb rule.
People don't realize how dangerous it is to fight dehydrated.
People still will cut weight and a retarded rule like this will just increase the risk of deaths in the ring.
Many fans simply don't understand how hard weight-cutting is and seem to think same day weigh-in is the way to go.
No! dehydration in the brain takes days to fully recover and if you have to cut weight 2 times within a day than you going to see so many more deaths.
Dehydrated brain is linked to increased brain trauma from impact.
Thats why American Football players drink pedialytes in games.
If a fighter is rehydrating over 10% of his weigh-in weight... He doesn't belong in that weight class. The issue is that if other fighters are abusing the rules to have a size advantage on their opponents, how can someone tell the fighters not to?
If the commisions and sanctioning organizations employed a similar rule to this, it'd reduce fighters' suffering a long term injury in the ring and the vast majority of fighters would have to move up a class.
Fighters that rehydrate over 10% (and even less) of their weight from one day to the next, means that they lose around 20% of water weight during training camp. The weight cuts in boxing (and wrestling and MMA) are drastic. It isn't uncommon for fighters to lose 30-40 pounds during training camp; losing 30-40 pounds of (mostly) water weight and then having 1 to recover before taking punishment makes boxing even more dangerous than it is.
Good move by the WBC.
No need for a fighter to have to make weight twice. It is all water at that point, and the fighters should be allowed to rehydrate as much as they need to/can.
Either have one weigh-in the day of, or have it the night before. Not both.
This isn't going to stop fighters from cutting obscene amounts of weight. It's just going to allow the WBC to issue more fines.
i think i like this rule. if we are gonna have so many weight classes, at least have some standards for fighters that make weight only to blow up 20 lbs the next dsy.
I don't get it? Making weight is a big part of why a fighter campaigns at a certain weight class. Same day weigh in is fine, but why the maximum rehydration limit? Is it to protect fighters who may use any unsafe practices in shedding the weight?
10% is a lot of weight gain, only few fighters are going to have problems with this new rule such as Rios, Chavez Jr and Ortiz.