As you know, im a massive froch fan. However i have to be honest. I can see bute stopping froch.
If you thought ward was a bad style match up i think bute is worse for froch. Hes a far crisper puncher than ward, and packs alot more power. Froch feel could be stopped in the 9th round onwards, due to the precise hand speed or bute.
Dont get me wrong, i think forhc will have his moments, but the guy will be 35 fighting bute, going into this fight with a loss.
what are you guys thoughts?
froch's been in with Kessler and Ward. Bute's been in with the elbowless johnson. who the hell knows what bute is made of? not even me, one of his fans. i gots me a poster 'n everyting
Well no, its just that he got knocked down with a shot he didn't see. But he wasn't wobbly or glazed in his eyes. He was perfectly aware of his surroundings, took the 8 count and got up. I don't consider that "hurt", it was just a flash knockdown.
Honestly, I thought he was more bothered by Dirrell's punches in the 11th (i think?)
I would agree on the Dirrell punch hurting him more.
Some guys get dropped by a shot they don't see but their legs never wobble or fail them.
Other times they take a shot and their legs go but they are able to remain upright.
I always judge by the legs whether a guy is truly hurt or not. Taylor's shot didn't hurt Froch badly, not like it was a tickle, but when he got up I didnt think he was in any danger of being stopped.
With Dirrell, had their been another minute left in the round, it could have gotten ugly for Carl.
Yeah, hurt has to be like Donaire-Montiel, or Pacquiao-Hatton.
Maldito estupido.
Well no, its just that he got knocked down with a shot he didn't see. But he wasn't wobbly or glazed in his eyes. He was perfectly aware of his surroundings, took the 8 count and got up. I don't consider that "hurt", it was just a flash knockdown.
Honestly, I thought he was more bothered by Dirrell's punches in the 11th (i think?)
I highly doubt it. Froch, for all his limitations, actually has a ****load more skill than just about everyone Bute has fought.
Bute has never been in a tough fight, with the exception of Andrade, and he melted under the pressure in that one very fast when the going got tough.
Froch on the other hand, has had nothing but tough fights for the past 3 years, he is mentally prepared for war and knows what it looks like. Don't underestimate big fight experience.
I think Bute being left handed actually plays to Froch's advantage stylistically. Ward can fight lefty but never did against Froch because he saw the weaknesses were more easily exploited from a right hand stance.
Carl throws a good straight right hand that is short and compact, Bute likes to jump in from a distance with punches that he normally gets away with against mediocre competition.
Bute lunges in with an uppercut and catches a Froch right hand on the way in he will be dragging his ass off the canvas. Yeah Froch has been downed and hurt by punches, but i've never witnessed him beaten so senseless that he cant even walk back to his own corner under his own power like Bute against Andrade.
No one gets up from a Taylor knock down "with no problems at all". Froch was visibly hurt and fell down with his legs all crossed like an idiot. He ran into a short right hand I think, that visibly hurt him, then Taylor hit him on the top side of the head if I remember correctly and Froch fell down Llike a sack of patatoes.
The point is Froch has been Knocked down, I couldve mistakenly said 3 or 4 times, I was just correcting the guy who said Froch has never been down which he has, at the hands of Bad Intentions.
You clearly don't know what hurt is.
I think this will become a war, I don't believe that Froch will get knocked out though, like people have said he is a tough SOB.
I don't know what will happen but it will come down to points.
k this will be in mote the style of how vitali stopped corrie saunders. He wont literally knock him out.
I will be in heaven when this fight happens.
The thing is Froch doesn't have great skills at all. But he is by far the toughest and most durable boxer in his division. I don't think he has even been knocked down, ever. He is also very strong. Kinda strange at his age, but whatever.
On the other hand Bute is much better puncher, much more accurate and deadly, more explosive punching. But he isn't a slickster like Ward, so he can be hit fairly easily. So I could see this fight becoming a war, where anything can happen. Bute will have to beat the hell out of Froch, and I think he can do it.
Personally, I hate Froch's personality. Good boxer to watch. But he is a bit of an idiot, thinking he is better than Calzahage, and even trying to coax him back into the ring. How silly is that?
oh dont get me wrong, froch will land, but it think butes crisp punching will take a accumative effect. It wont be a one punch kncok out, but every dog has his day. And i think bute stylistically is a knightmare for froch :(
No one gets up from a Taylor knock down "with no problems at all". Froch was visibly hurt and fell down with his legs all crossed like an idiot. He ran into a short right hand I think, that visibly hurt him, then Taylor hit him on the top side of the head if I remember correctly and Froch fell down Llike a sack of patatoes.
The point is Froch has been Knocked down, I couldve mistakenly said 3 or 4 times, I was just correcting the guy who said Froch has never been down which he has, at the hands of Bad Intentions.
Froch is a warrior and dominated Taylor in the end coming out with the win. But you are right Taylor knocked him down and that shook him a bit.
I think this will become a war, I don't believe that Froch will get knocked out though, like people have said he is a tough SOB.
I don't know what will happen but it will come down to points.
Once, and he got up with no problems at all. I agree Bute is a tough fight for Froch, I fancy Bute to take this one, but talk of Froch being stopped is going too far. He must be one of the toughest guys in the entire sport.
No one gets up from a Taylor knock down "with no problems at all". Froch was visibly hurt and fell down with his legs all crossed like an idiot. He ran into a short right hand I think, that visibly hurt him, then Taylor hit him on the top side of the head if I remember correctly and Froch fell down Llike a sack of patatoes.
The point is Froch has been Knocked down, I couldve mistakenly said 3 or 4 times, I was just correcting the guy who said Froch has never been down which he has, at the hands of Bad Intentions.
I will be in heaven when this fight happens.
The thing is Froch doesn't have great skills at all. But he is by far the toughest and most durable boxer in his division. I don't think he has even been knocked down, ever. He is also very strong. Kinda strange at his age, but whatever.
On the other hand Bute is much better puncher, much more accurate and deadly, more explosive punching. But he isn't a slickster like Ward, so he can be hit fairly easily. So I could see this fight becoming a war, where anything can happen. Bute will have to beat the hell out of Froch, and I think he can do it.
Personally, I hate Froch's personality. Good boxer to watch. But he is a bit of an idiot, thinking he is better than Calzahage, and even trying to coax him back into the ring. How silly is that?
He was knocked down by Taylor before coming back to KO him with a few seconds left on the clock in the final round.
And what was wrong with him trying to get Calzaghe out of retirement? He wanted a big pay-day & he wanted that big test. Nothing wrong with that.
Jermain Taylor knocked him down twice.
Once, and he got up with no problems at all. I agree Bute is a tough fight for Froch, I fancy Bute to take this one, but talk of Froch being stopped is going too far. He must be one of the toughest guys in the entire sport.
I will be in heaven when this fight happens.
The thing is Froch doesn't have great skills at all. But he is by far the toughest and most durable boxer in his division. I don't think he has even been knocked down, ever. He is also very strong. Kinda strange at his age, but whatever.
On the other hand Bute is much better puncher, much more accurate and deadly, more explosive punching. But he isn't a slickster like Ward, so he can be hit fairly easily. So I could see this fight becoming a war, where anything can happen. Bute will have to beat the hell out of Froch, and I think he can do it.
Personally, I hate Froch's personality. Good boxer to watch. But he is a bit of an idiot, thinking he is better than Calzahage, and even trying to coax him back into the ring. How silly is that?
Jermain Taylor knocked him down twice.
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