Cottos trainner said in the radio show La Perrera The Dog House, Mayweather is a normal fighter . we already saw few videos of him, there are some weak areas in his boxing, we expect to win the fight
I think what Diaz is referring to is that Floyd is not unorthodox. Cuban amateurs have a similar approach to boxing.
Jabs, straight rights, and left hooks are the only punches he uses. His footwork is textbook but what makes him so difficult is how effectively he executes everything he does.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with what Diaz said, and I'm sure he knows how difficult this fight will be. He's just being positive.that's not true--floyd also uses right hooksand right crosses a lot also---he punching style is eerie because he'll shock you with a punch that you never seen him throw before---cotto will find this out--floyd can counter with a jab/hook type of punch--watch the start of the 2nd round with judah---
The truth is that if Paulie Malinaggi knew how to push off with his elbow or clinch when his opponent came inside than he would be ranked higher than floyd
It would be interesting if a person attempted a jab to the body when Floyd sets up for the pull counter. Most people go for his face but what would he do if someone put a dagger in his belly instead? Now that would be interesting to see.
Just had visions of Martin Scorsese in the back of De Niro's cab in "Taxi Driver" while reading this.... lol
In every sport, the arm-chair guys (us) try to dissect an athlete's (or team's) weaknesses and how they can be exploited. It's all very interesting and it's partly what makes it fun to be a fan. However, the chances that we're seeing something the pros aren't is slim to none. I'm not only certain Mayweather's opponents try to take advantage of his openings, but that Floyd knows it.
You make a good point. JMM is an awesome counter-puncher, yet even he couldn't effectively take advantage of Mayweather's openings when executing the "pull-counter." (As illustrated in your GIF.) It's a common problem in sports: identifying a weakness is one thing; taking advantage of it is another. Rarified boxers are able to employ risky, unorthodox or predictable techniques over and over in their fights because they're so gifted. Floyd happens to be of that uncommon breed.
It would be interesting if a person attempted a jab to the body when Floyd sets up for the pull counter. Most people go for his face but what would he do if someone put a dagger in his belly instead? Now that would be interesting to see.
i wouldn't myself say floyd is a "normal" fighter as such, but i believe i know what díaz means, given the context of him being a cuban coach.
the cubans have a very developed understanding of the term "talent"
when talking about natural talents, the only standouts that mayweather has are his speed and reactions, the rest is stuff that have been learned and trained, and that applies to a large extent to the two things i just mentioned. his work ethic does set him apart though-
ie. he is not naturally a devastating puncher, he doesn't have a chin like vitali, he doesn't have a "special" trademark punch that sets him apart, etc etc.
he is kind of a normal guy who has been crafted into something extraordinary. you look at gamboa, he has stupidly fast hands that whip up into a "ciclón" of shots, that is not "normal".
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Judging from the fact Cotto and Diaz are already preparing for Floyd they aren't underestimating him at all. They just aren't going into the fight thinking that Floyd is a superhuman and that losing is inevitable.
MOSLEY AND CLOTTEY LOST for starts.
LOL FUK UP HOE, CHEATO USED PLASTER AND PACMAN USED A CATCH WEIGHT WITH COTTO HAVING NO TRAINER AND NO PASSION FOR THE SPORT. THERE'S A REASON WHY A REAL BOXING GUY LIKE M. STEWARD SAYS THIS COTTO WOULD PROBABLY BEAT PACMAN.
Mamabicho I would bet you but u have no points. You know Cotto was being rehabilitated and made Foremans leg give out bc of lateral movement (haha, excueses!!! - Cotto was supposed to be outclassed!) Mayorga is bigger than him and a puncher who makes everyone look bad and a prep for Cheato. Cheato was needed and revenge was SWEEET! You ***** my man, Clottey busted Cotto with ONE EYE. 6 rounds each plus the knockdown makes it a win for Cotto! HAHA. Cheato is a tuff *** either way, Floyd was scared of his ass. My man took him out and now his confidence is back.
STOP COTTO? DUDE I AM WILLING TO BET MY ACCOUNT THAT DON'T HAPPEN, ARE YOU? SERIOUSLY. SAME WAY HE STOPPED MARQUEZ? AND MOSLEY? OH, YOU MUST MEAN THE SUCKA PUNCH. RIIIIIGHT.
I don't listen to idiots rant on youtube videos, nuff of that **** on here obviously. You guys are OD not giving Cotto respect. If Floyd doesn't knock him out I'm siggin your **** all day - he's going to win via potshots if he does. Not hard to put someone on the backfoot for a while, fights go back and forth. Looking at your sig, I can tell you swear blacks are better than everyone at everything. You guys really are not. Those heavyweights you have down there would not have been winning so much fights had the Soviet Union not been communists. The Klitchko's are proof of that, whippin all types of black ass. That's why boxing aint the same, heavyweights (the crown jewel of the sport), are NOT AMERICAN anymore. And no racism here, just callin it how I see it -- Sugar Ray Leonard, a real black fighter who was not afraid of anyone, is one of the best of all time. You're just another black dude who likes Floyd bc he's black. Had he been Rican it would be different. You would recognize his bull****. You fans are harder on Cotto than Floyd is bc you guys are biased. Floyd has no power and don't punch enough. Diaz already trying to figure out what type of gameplan beats that. What's the problem? Diaz never called him normal like we use the word, he meant a person like all of us, with weaknesses. But now Diaz is underestimating him, please. Floyd ain't perfect. He already lost to Castillo 1 and fought to a draw with DLH. But he's dominant bc he's black. How about DLH in his prime? Would have whipped that boy.
LOOK AT THIS CORNBALL NIGA HERE.
Did you also know Chavez Jr. holds the compubox record for most body punches landed in one fight? And he's such a great fighter right? Did you know Chavez Jr. is also undefeated, many have tried and many have failed, even while studying his tapes. But is he great? NOPE. He's beatable too. You nigas let these lil things fool you - "Oh, he's undefeated!." So? Your boy cherry picked his way to that record and was helped by judging. And if Cotto is so wack than you agree that he is still continuing his cherry-picking ways? LMAOOOO, Cotto is used to taking O's away. He's fought and beat like 7 undefeated fighters to Floyd's two. But you got it black man, you're so dominant that I can't possibly win an argument so, PEACE!
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Cotto is going to get walked down.
that and this isnt going to be a back in forth slugfest, cotto is going to have think in there with all that damn feinting floyd does. we see it all the time fighters get tired in the late rounds when fighting floyd because ur so tight from all the feints.
MOSLEY AND CLOTTEY LOST for starts.
LOL FUK UP HOE, CHEATO USED PLASTER AND PACMAN USED A CATCH WEIGHT WITH COTTO HAVING NO TRAINER AND NO PASSION FOR THE SPORT. THERE'S A REASON WHY A REAL BOXING GUY LIKE M. STEWARD SAYS THIS COTTO WOULD PROBABLY BEAT PACMAN.
Mamabicho I would bet you but u have no points. You know Cotto was being rehabilitated and made Foremans leg give out bc of lateral movement (haha, excueses!!! - Cotto was supposed to be outclassed!) Mayorga is bigger than him and a puncher who makes everyone look bad and a prep for Cheato. Cheato was needed and revenge was SWEEET! You ***** my man, Clottey busted Cotto with ONE EYE. 6 rounds each plus the knockdown makes it a win for Cotto! HAHA. Cheato is a tuff *** either way, Floyd was scared of his ass. My man took him out and now his confidence is back.
Wow, it's an authentic Cottard. I didn't realise there were any left, you guys are an endangered species.
In all honesty I like Cotto, one of if not the best Puerta Rican fighters of all time, but he isn't and never was in Mayweather's league. And you cannot praise Cotto's resume while criticising Mayweather's. Both have fought at the highest level of competition, but Floyd's been fighting the best since his 3rd year as a pro and Cotto hasn't fought as many elite fighters.
LOL I list some of my fav Black fighters who I feel proud of and every1 always looks to shoot it down what is it about blacks expressing racial pride that makes guys short fuse?
Whats wrong with a black person supporting a black fighter don't you support Miguel Cotto bcuz he's Rican? don't Mexicans support Mexicans don't Filipinos support Filipinos?
Personally, I don't necessarily have a problem with an African-American being proud of other African-Americans. But the difference is that Mexican, Filipino, German, Cuban, etc. are nationalities, not races. Puerto Rico is technically not a country, but we always refer to it as such. There are black Puerto Ricans, white Puerto Ricans and everything in between. The same with the Cubans and Dominicans. There are, of course, some countries that are known for a highly predominant race, with the nationality being almost synonymous with such, like the Philippines.
I guess we could get into it (although I'm certainly not inclined to at the moment...lol), but for certain reasons, in some societies, it makes people uncomfortable to see you side with race, as opposed to geographic region. In our society, for instance, it's perfectly acceptable for you to root for your hometown, state, country, school, etc., but not race.
Let me ask you a question. If there were a boxing fan here that rooted only for white fighters (and there are indeed a few...lol), would you say, "That's okay, he's just proud of his race's accomplishments." Or would you tend to think he's a racist. Be honest now.... lol
I always thought the best chance one would have to beat Mayweather is to just completely take him out of his element.
Get dirty with him throw some elbows, rough him up in the clinch, talk **** to him. And I dont mean isolated fouls like what Ortiz and Judah did, I mean just piss him off the whole fight. Floyd is so used to being in complete control, and it has been like that his whole career, take him out of that and confuse him.
Everyone always says the same stuff coming into the fight. I swear every time at some point the trainer says something along the lines of "if Floyd wants to do his shoulder roll all night we will just bang up on his shoulder".
Floyd has no strategy nor gameplan. Floyd fights as if he's reading ur mind and knows ur flaws soon as u step in the ring. If anything u have to have a gameplan on what NOT to do against him and to overcome of not beating urself up over it, which all 41 fighters have done.
keep believing that nonsense, Floyd is a great student of the sport. Of course he watch and study his opponent videos ( tapes is an old/non-existent technology)
Every trainer thinks they have the remedy to beat Floyd, so far they've all failed. The fact to the matter is, Floyd is unpredictable.
\every trainer thinks he has the remedy for his fighter opponent :fing02:
STOP COTTO? DUDE I AM WILLING TO BET MY ACCOUNT THAT DON'T HAPPEN, ARE YOU? SERIOUSLY. SAME WAY HE STOPPED MARQUEZ? AND MOSLEY? OH, YOU MUST MEAN THE SUCKA PUNCH. RIIIIIGHT.
Marquez and Mosley have never been stopped Cotto's punch resistance and stamina isn't as good as Marquez and Mosleys
I don't listen to idiots rant on youtube videos, nuff of that **** on here obviously. You guys are OD not giving Cotto respect.
Dude i've been a Cotto fan since his 140 lbs days just calling it how I see it
If Floyd doesn't knock him out I'm siggin your **** all day - he's going to win via potshots if he does.
Cotto has shown he can be broken down with hard power shots If Floyd sees you breaking down he'll open up there's specific reasons why he didn't open up against Marquez
Those heavyweights you have down there would not have been winning so much fights had the Soviet Union not been communists. The Klitchko's are proof of that, whippin all types of black ass.
LOL I list some of my fav Black fighters who I feel proud of and every1 always looks to shoot it down what is it about blacks expressing racial pride that makes guys short fuse?
You're just another black dude who likes Floyd bc he's black. Had he been Rican it would be different.
Whats wrong with a black person supporting a black fighter don't you support Miguel Cotto bcuz he's Rican? don't Mexicans support Mexicans don't Filipinos support Filipinos?
Diaz already trying to figure out what type of gameplan beats that. What's the problem? Diaz never called him normal like we use the word, he meant a person like all of us, with weaknesses.
My mistake I thought he was insulting him
He already lost to Castillo 1 and fought to a draw with DLH. But he's dominant bc he's black. How about DLH in his prime? Would have whipped that boy.
You do know there was a rematch even though I had Floyd winning the first one close and come even u know that DLH split decision was a joke
1 - Just because you act rude and ghetto doesn't mean that your sh!t isn't completely transparent.
2 - I never endorsed anything Chavez has ever done. So mentioning that already demonstrates how desperate you are to make a point at any cost.
3 - Achieving a milestone in one fight and maintaining a standard over 15 years are TWO VERY DIFFERENT THINGS.
4 - Being undefeated against an array of tune ups and opponents is not the same of being undefeated against the best one's era had to offer. The only way to consistently fight the best is to face the #1 and 2 fighters in every division one competes in. We all know that Cotto has NOT done that.
5 - How does once cherry pick by fighting the #1 &/or 2 in every division he's competed in over 15 years? That's just more childish talk from an insecure fanboy who wants to be right but doesn't have the mental tools to work with to make a decent point.
6 - You talk about Cotto fighting 7 undefeated fighters, but why do you refuse to talk about Cotto never winning a non-vacant title until he fought Foreman? Every title Cotto has EVER had before Foreman was a vacant title ... meaning he sidestepped REAL champions in favor of seeking paper belts to legitimize his so-called ascension in the ranks at jrWW and WW.
7 - Talk about how Cotto's only noteworthy win comes over Mosley, in a fight that many thought should have gone the other way. Its the first time Miguel has beaten a world class fighter, and he couldn't even ride that momentum more than 8 months before he got a savage beating that has wannabe thugs like you STILL making excuses.
You clearly need a hug. You're arguing with me about something that was never intended for you to feel so butthurt about. No one was talking to you. You saw me ask someone else a question and you went berserk.
They have medication for that nowadays, Hiphop. Seek help.
OK I AM Sorry, I apologize for the misunderstanding. Thought you were going around bashing on Cotto and I stated my reasons for why I doubt he wasn't a paper champ. The belts and mandatory's are silly as hell, people get belts for BS fights all the time, of course Cotto would be one of them. I can't really get into those technical things you speak of with the #1 or #2 mandatory, those things are run by silly WBC's and WBO's for belts man. I talk about the fighters fighting guys who may actually beat them in their division. Just bc Marquez was top ten fighter doesn't mean anybody in any division can fight him and make it acceptable. That win was trash to me man. Cotto (IMO) would have TKO'd Marquez. I think Cotto has done great with taking challenges and rebuilding himself after being plastered to death and his personal woes so far. A lot of real boxing people agree with me and I get surprised, like Dan Rafael and Steward and these guys who are Cotto fans, but their objective and call it like it is. I love all fighters of any race too it's not just b/c he's Rican. Its just silly what some people come up with to discredit Cotto. No, nobody really thought Mosley won that fight. There was no outcry for a rematch or robbery like we just saw with Campillo over Cloud or Diaz over Malignaggi or countless other travesties. It was a fair unanimous decision. I can carry on a civil debate but my bad if you still think I'm too hip hop that's cool.