Thanks again! Watching all these trailers is making me very pumped for the film!
There was a little snippet in this version where Ronnie Shields opines that Rigo "has the best footwork he's seen since Mohammad Ali." Is that true? It's Ronnie's opinion. And whether he's right or not, just having your footwork being compared with a legend known for his footwork is extremely high praise.
Guillermo obviously has a lot to live up to. When people hear all the hype, they expect something out-of-this-world. He is extraordinary, but fans unfamiliar with him tend to expect things that are probably a touch unrealistic. I've said many times that I believe Rigo is finding his way as a professional. I stand by that. I think Guillermo is learning, in steps, that pro boxing fans expect a certain kind of excitement, a certain kind of fight. He has all the tools to deliver the show.
As for Cuba, thanks for sharing your personal experiences. They mean a lot to me. I like to gather various views and opinions. Everyone sees the world through a different prism. I know that there's great intellectual, cultural and creative vibrancy among the people. But, just speaking from a man-made, physical standpoint, the Cuban infrastructure appears to be in horrible decay. There are so many colonial-era buildings that are literally rotting, without anyone caring to (or being able to) stop it. Those buildings are an integral part of the island's heritage and historical beauty. Once they're gone, they're gone. I resent that. I can't express my feelings any other way.
yeah, i think what you say about rigondeaux is bang right. he is something special and of very high quality, but he needs to have his career. i have no doubt he will be as successful as he is allowed to be (in terms whether he can actually get the fights etc), but the conflict a lot of people are having is between what skill he has and what empirically he has done as a pro. time will tell, and i imagine it will be a favourable tale.
re: Cuba, what is happening/ has happened there is something that people can debate til the end of time and still not agree, i'm not talking about my view and yours here, just in general. the best piece of advice i can give for anyone interested in the island- have as open a mind as possible and try to put the various pieces of the puzzle together. there's many different angles to look at it from, ultimately i guess a lot of it comes down to personality. i had a great time living there because my life revolved around two things whilst i was there- education and sport, uni and boxing. if you involve yourself in such things it is a very rich experience. however the girl i went with just took spanish classes and didn't really have any hobbies etc, and she found it real hard because she wanted a more material based lifestyle to compensate, and cuba isn't really the place for it...
i actually prefer the original trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0ZVbgDG67Q
can't wait for the film. it is being edited and finished off now, just funds holding it back a little. it will be a quality piece of work. the director has boxed himself and spent a fair bit of time in cuba training, so you know, he has an actual good understanding of the sport from the inside, which is pretty unusual for a director.
i understand what you're saying about how Cuba is now, and i wouldn't want to tell you about your homeland, but i lived in la Habana for a year, studying and serving an apprenticeship as a boxing coach and i think it is still a very beautiful place- physically and materially things need a real lot of work obviously, but culturally things are great, there is definite beauty in that sense. the boxing system there, bueno, es algo bonito.
in it's context, compared to other latin american and caribbean countries, and given it's resources and problems, i think Cuba does pretty good you know.
Thanks again! Watching all these trailers is making me very pumped for the film!
There was a little snippet in this version where Ronnie Shields opines that Rigo "has the best footwork he's seen since Mohammad Ali." Is that true? It's Ronnie's opinion. And whether he's right or not, just having your footwork being compared with a legend known for his footwork is extremely high praise.
Guillermo obviously has a lot to live up to. When people hear all the hype, they expect something out-of-this-world. He is extraordinary, but fans unfamiliar with him tend to expect things that are probably a touch unrealistic. I've said many times that I believe Rigo is finding his way as a professional. I stand by that. I think Guillermo is learning, in steps, that pro boxing fans expect a certain kind of excitement, a certain kind of fight. He has all the tools to deliver the show.
As for Cuba, thanks for sharing your personal experiences. They mean a lot to me. I like to gather various views and opinions. Everyone sees the world through a different prism. I know that there's great intellectual, cultural and creative vibrancy among the people. But, just speaking from a man-made, physical standpoint, the Cuban infrastructure appears to be in horrible decay. There are so many colonial-era buildings that are literally rotting, without anyone caring to (or being able to) stop it. Those buildings are an integral part of the island's heritage and historical beauty. Once they're gone, they're gone. I resent that. I can't express my feelings any other way.
Thanks for posting that link, bro! Wow! That pumped me up! I'm a big film buff. I really appreciate things like editing, musical choice, cinematography, etc. This looks like a quality production. I recognized some of the voices lauding Rigondeaux, but not others. The director of the film obviously wants to make it clear that Guillermo is special. (And I agree.)
(On a side note, it pains me to see footage of my beloved homeland, allowed to rot by Castro and his regime. Cuba was the "Pearl of the Antilles" in colonial times and "America's Playground" before Fidel. She was a vibrant land of beauty and culture, now barely clinging to fading glory.)
i actually prefer the original trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0ZVbgDG67Q
can't wait for the film. it is being edited and finished off now, just funds holding it back a little. it will be a quality piece of work. the director has boxed himself and spent a fair bit of time in cuba training, so you know, he has an actual good understanding of the sport from the inside, which is pretty unusual for a director.
i understand what you're saying about how Cuba is now, and i wouldn't want to tell you about your homeland, but i lived in la Habana for a year, studying and serving an apprenticeship as a boxing coach and i think it is still a very beautiful place- physically and materially things need a real lot of work obviously, but culturally things are great, there is definite beauty in that sense. the boxing system there, bueno, es algo bonito.
in it's context, compared to other latin american and caribbean countries, and given it's resources and problems, i think Cuba does pretty good you know.
roach also said something like he's the best fighter ever stepped into the wild card (by that i don't know whether he meant for their first day in the gym, which is slightly different to bets full stop, but anyway), also that rigondeaux is the most complete fighter he's ever worked with.
few good words of praise here too, from the likes of ronnie shields:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIBoxxigYsI
Thanks for posting that link, bro! Wow! That pumped me up! I'm a big film buff. I really appreciate things like editing, musical choice, cinematography, etc. This looks like a quality production. I recognized some of the voices lauding Rigondeaux, but not others. The director of the film obviously wants to make it clear that Guillermo is special. (And I agree.)
(On a side note, it pains me to see footage of my beloved homeland, allowed to rot by Castro and his regime. Cuba was the "Pearl of the Antilles" in colonial times and "America's Playground" before Fidel. She was a vibrant land of beauty and culture, now barely clinging to fading glory.)
roach also said something like he's the best fighter ever stepped into the wild card (by that i don't know whether he meant for their first day in the gym, which is slightly different to bets full stop, but anyway), also that rigondeaux is the most complete fighter he's ever worked with.
few good words of praise here too, from the likes of ronnie shields:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIBoxxigYsI
I seem to recall hearing Teddy make those comments. I don't think I ever heard Roach say that (not saying he didn't). Even if those guys never said those things, an experienced/knowledgeable eye would pick up that Rigo is a very skilled counter-puncher and a punishing body-puncher.
the one of roach he said it at his gym it wa son youtube when a guy was interviewing him he said first that gamboa would beat donaire and then he went on to say that about rigondeaux
Also Atlas says rigo might ne the best counter puncher in the game and body puncher
roach also said rigo is the best counter puncher in the game even better than mayweather, i am not saying i agree but thats what these guys said
I seem to recall hearing Teddy make those comments. I don't think I ever heard Roach say that (not saying he didn't). Even if those guys never said those things, an experienced/knowledgeable eye would pick up that Rigo is a very skilled counter-puncher and a punishing body-puncher.
What makes you say that? I'm not even sure how well-known he is in the Cuban-American community! (I'm certain he's well-known on the island. Unfortunately, from an economic standpoint, the people are impotent.) Regardless, Rigondeaux's popularity isn't the issue. It's his ability that means something.
I read a lot of Rigo bashing here from people that don't know much if anything about him. The man is highly skilled, accomplished and talented. This isn't just some kid with nine pro bouts. "El Chacal" is an amateur legend with only about a dozen losses in approximately 400 bouts. He owns two Olympic golds among his other international honors.
I know that the pros is a different animal, but a talent like Guillermo is quite special. You hear Nonito call him "boring," not weak. That a guy like Freddie Roach (Rigo's first pro trainer) wanted "El Chacal" to challenge for a world championship almost immediately after turning pro speaks volumes. I've never heard of such a thing. Have you?
unfortunately it appears that you're preaching to the converted on the one hand and the wilfully ignorant on the other...
but yes, i agree with your summary!
What makes you say that? I'm not even sure how well-known he is in the Cuban-American community! (I'm certain he's well-known on the island. Unfortunately, from an economic standpoint, the people are impotent.) Regardless, Rigondeaux's popularity isn't the issue. It's his ability that means something.
I read a lot of Rigo bashing here from people that don't know much if anything about him. The man is highly skilled, accomplished and talented. This isn't just some kid with nine pro bouts. "El Chacal" is an amateur legend with only about a dozen losses in approximately 400 bouts. He owns two Olympic golds among his other international honors.
I know that the pros is a different animal, but a talent like Guillermo is quite special. You hear Nonito call him "boring," not weak. That a guy like Freddie Roach (Rigo's first pro trainer) wanted "El Chacal" to challenge for a world championship almost immediately after turning pro speaks volumes. I've never heard of such a thing. Have you?
Also Atlas says rigo might ne the best counter puncher in the game and body puncher
roach also said rigo is the best counter puncher in the game even better than mayweather, i am not saying i agree but thats what these guys said
Such a bum. This guy is so hyped its not even funny. I was talking to a kid on toys r us yesterday and asked him "have you heard of rigo?" and he was like "no wtf". No one knows this guy he hasnt fought anyone, why is he being mentioned at all.
a kid at toys are us? what a loser you are
Rigo sounds like a pretty cool guy
I was actually surprised at how articulate he could be with the "dicharachos". (He probably likes to rap.) In the few interviews I've seen with him, he seems at a loss for words, almost shy. Maybe he's just a fairly humble guy.
Rigo is not famous even in Cuban. :lol1:
What makes you say that? I'm not even sure how well-known he is in the Cuban-American community! (I'm certain he's well-known on the island. Unfortunately, from an economic standpoint, the people are impotent.) Regardless, Rigondeaux's popularity isn't the issue. It's his ability that means something.
I read a lot of Rigo bashing here from people that don't know much if anything about him. The man is highly skilled, accomplished and talented. This isn't just some kid with nine pro bouts. "El Chacal" is an amateur legend with only about a dozen losses in approximately 400 bouts. He owns two Olympic golds among his other international honors.
I know that the pros is a different animal, but a talent like Guillermo is quite special. You hear Nonito call him "boring," not weak. That a guy like Freddie Roach (Rigo's first pro trainer) wanted "El Chacal" to challenge for a world championship almost immediately after turning pro speaks volumes. I've never heard of such a thing. Have you?
Valdez hizo una película antes de salir de Cuba llamado "Un Rey en la Habana." Lo vi hace unos años. Creo que si te gusta su programa, te gustará la película. Es sólo alrededor de una hora y media de largo.
esa película es muy buena!
Such a bum. This guy is so hyped its not even funny. I was talking to a kid on toys r us yesterday and asked him "have you heard of rigo?" and he was like "no wtf". No one knows this guy he hasnt fought anyone, why is he being mentioned at all.
Ese Alexis Valdez esta cabron, el programa esta buenisimo, yo lo veo aca en PR!!
Valdez hizo una película antes de salir de Cuba llamado "Un Rey en la Habana." Lo vi hace unos años. Creo que si te gusta su programa, te gustará la película. Es sólo alrededor de una hora y media de largo.