Whos higher P4P, Ward or Marquez?

The sad thing is that those 2 guys fight tooth & nail for their rankings & 2 cherrypicking superstars hog the top 2 spots on most pfp lists,(but not mine). I have Ward & Maruquez higher than both with Ward as my #1.

marquez. dude 'beat' the supposed number one guy. froch, is a stiff to begin with, not that impressive. im too lazy to go down the list, but ward really doesnt have competition, tho i dont kno if its out of he being that great, or just lack of skills in the 168 division. doesnt really matter, jmm is on his way out, ward will probably replace his spot officially on the ring, espn, and other ranking services.

I think it's close, my top 5 in order is Floyd, Pacquiao, Martinez, Marquez, and Ward (don't know why people are hell bent on having the overrated Nonito on their top 5). But I can see how people would have Ward higher, but I just look at Marquez and he's never clearly lost a fight, excluding his lightweight-welterweight climb against Floyd of course. But I think if Ward goes onto dominate Bute, then he's definitely moving to a solid number 3 slot.

If you look at what has been achieved overall as of NOW I would say Marquez, but if you base P4P rkings on overall expectations I would have to go with Ward.

i cant see how marquez would be ranked higher. like i said,marquez at this point is definatley better overall resume. you can argue he beat pacquiao, but at the end of the day its still a loss. other than that he beat ramos, katsidis and diaz. while ward has beaten the top guys in his division. beating kessler and froch > diaz,katsidis,ramos okay.... Pacquiao beat Mosley, Margarito and Clottey Mayweather beat Ortiz Mosley and Marquez Martinez beat Dzinziruk,Barker and Williams Nonito beat Monitel,Vasquez and Narvaez Ward's wins are more impressive than any of the other top P4P's. Despite their big names infact Pacquiao's is probably the weakest

i cant see how marquez would be ranked higher. like i said,marquez at this point is definatley better overall resume. you can argue he beat pacquiao, but at the end of the day its still a loss. other than that he beat ramos, katsidis and diaz. while ward has beaten the top guys in his division. beating kessler and froch > diaz,katsidis,ramos It doesn't matter if it's officially a loss or not, the P4P list is completely subjective and even though he has a loss in his record anyone could argue that he's higher on the P4P lists because he actually won that fight. Pacquiao officialy won that fight, yet he lost one place on some P4P lists. Williams "won" against Lara, yet he was demoted on most rankings lists.

i cant see how marquez would be ranked higher. like i said,marquez at this point is definatley better overall resume. you can argue he beat pacquiao, but at the end of the day its still a loss. other than that he beat ramos, katsidis and diaz. while ward has beaten the top guys in his division. beating kessler and froch > diaz,katsidis,ramos

my biased opinion says Marquez.... also I red K'd several people in this thread

ward.. jmm has'nt really done sh1t but piggyback on that arguable loss to pacqauio..real talk He hasn't done shit, he just beat the then #1 LW Joel Casamayor, top 5 LW Juan Diaz, and top 10 Katsidis and is only currently the 135 Ring/WBO/WBA Champion. Ward is higher on my P4P list, than Marquez. But to say Marquez hasn't done sh!t, you have to be from the Fillipines or something.

Somehow this is going to turn into a Mayweather hate thread.

Beating Pacquiao > Beating Froch

Hands down Marquez

Ward. All Marquez has done as of late was get dominated by Floyd, had alright wins over Diaz and Katsidis, and than had a controversial fight with Manny. Ward has whooped Kessler, Abraham, Green, and Froch, all the top guys in his division. Yes, I thought Marquez arguably beat Pacquiao as well, but just coming close isn't enough to be higher than a guy that is dominating good fighters the way Ward is.

Marquez beat the #1 p4p guy......nuff said

Ward has fought and BEAT better competition.