Pablo Hernandez vs. Cunningham thoughts.

Yoan has skills, but he needs to do something about his workrate. Maybe it's a conditioning issue....I don't think he's shown his top potential yet.

Like I said, I don't have an issue with Hernandez winning obviously, just saying all this "erased all doubts" stuff, just doesn't truly describe the way the fight went. When I heard everyone talking about it, and reading the articles I was expecting a more complete performance from Hernandez. He looked really flat in alot of the rounds, while Cunningham was doing effective work with the jab and body shots. I just think those two big knockdowns effected peoples view of how the whole affair truly went down, that's really all I'm saying...Not trying to make a big deal out of it. I saw it the same way. You could give Steve rounds 5-11, maybe YPH won one. I gave YPH the final round, cause he hurt Steve, but USS was back to outworking him within 15 seconds.

I really enjoy USS' fights, but after the first fight, Hernandez just seemed to have that kind of style that was always going to trouble Cunningham. Even after the controversy surrounding the first fight, I thought USS was losing without a doubt and it was going to be a rough outing. With the rematch... Cunningham should have stayed on the outside all night and boxed Hernandez, but he kept staying in range the get caught with heavy shots. Hernandez just has that style that will always trouble Cunningham and the KD's certainly helped which is what I think gave Hernandez the win, but even without one or both, Hernandez could eked out the W or at least a draw.

lol "USS" is pretty impressive like that. It so happens that I was just looking at the fourth round of the second fight again. I'm still amazed at how Cunningham managed to survive that round. Hernandez couldn't catch him with a flush shot to close the deal, but Steve was still taking enough to put a lesser man out. I've seen both Cunningham fights, the Herelius bout and a few clips. Yoan Pablo is good, maybe not tremendous, but very, very solid. His two performances against a worthy champion like Cunningham alone speak volumes. The first bout with Steve left something to be desired, with that questionable stoppage, but Hernandez showed power and quality. As I said before, Yoan Pablo fights in spurts, and his conditioning could be better. He throws somewhat loopy punches. But Hernandez has good skills, goes nicely to the body and has very respectable power. He has himself shown heart in his victories over Cunningham. I think Yoan Pablo has a very bright future. If he stays in Germany, he'll do extremely well for himself. He seems very popular over there, and even starred as Joe Louis in a film about Max Schmeling. i'll have to watch some more of hernandez, i liked what i saw in the first few rounds or so of this latest bout, great skill. cunningham earned a lot of respect though. after the first fight, when i saw him go down in the second, even though he looked done, i thought "hang on a moment here"! and yeah he did very well all things considered, great fight!

i haven't seen enough of hernandez to know but i think in both the cunningham fights it might say more about cunningham than hernandez. the USS was obviously in ridiculously good shape, with hernandez throwing even the kitchen sink at him and yet he gets up and comes back way stronger. like some damn zombie film!! lol "USS" is pretty impressive like that. It so happens that I was just looking at the fourth round of the second fight again. I'm still amazed at how Cunningham managed to survive that round. Hernandez couldn't catch him with a flush shot to close the deal, but Steve was still taking enough to put a lesser man out. I've seen both Cunningham fights, the Herelius bout and a few clips. Yoan Pablo is good, maybe not tremendous, but very, very solid. His two performances against a worthy champion like Cunningham alone speak volumes. The first bout with Steve left something to be desired, with that questionable stoppage, but Hernandez showed power and quality. As I said before, Yoan Pablo fights in spurts, and his conditioning could be better. He throws somewhat loopy punches. But Hernandez has good skills, goes nicely to the body and has very respectable power. He has himself shown heart in his victories over Cunningham. I think Yoan Pablo has a very bright future. If he stays in Germany, he'll do extremely well for himself. He seems very popular over there, and even starred as Joe Louis in a film about Max Schmeling.

You make a sound observation about Hernandez's stamina. I also get the impression that Yoan Pablo gasses early. He needs to bring up his conditioning. Hernandez isn't a monster cruiserweight; but with the proper training, he can be champ for a while. It would be a very good thing for him; they seem to love Yoan Pablo in Germany. i haven't seen enough of hernandez to know but i think in both the cunningham fights it might say more about cunningham than hernandez. the USS was obviously in ridiculously good shape, with hernandez throwing even the kitchen sink at him and yet he gets up and comes back way stronger. like some damn zombie film!!

very good fight and like the above have said the right man won,i thought they should of stopped the fight in round 4 Cunningham got smashed and didnt know where he was,he fell over twice saying that he showed great heart to get back in the fight and yes he lost by a couple of rounds but he fought in Germany.so you are already two rounds down before the fight start

Like I said, I don't have an issue with Hernandez winning obviously, just saying all this "erased all doubts" stuff, just doesn't truly describe the way the fight went. When I heard everyone talking about it, and reading the articles I was expecting a more complete performance from Hernandez. He looked really flat in alot of the rounds, while Cunningham was doing effective work with the jab and body shots. I just think those two big knockdowns effected peoples view of how the whole affair truly went down, that's really all I'm saying...Not trying to make a big deal out of it. Steve looked good. He fights more consistently than Hernandez. Yoan Pablo tends to fight in spurts. Like you pointed out, he likes to put a lot into his punches. I'm not saying Cunningham didn't have a high score-rate, but a busy fighter (like Paul Williams) can create the illusion of effectiveness. Hernandez may not throw as many punches, but the judges might've deemed that he landed more. The knockdowns might affect the way a casual observer views a fight, but the judges are supposed to be scoring as the fight goes along. Those two trips to the canvass cost "USS" a couple of points, no matter how you slice it. I have to say, Cunningham has amazing recuperative powers. How he managed to stay in the battle is beyond me. That's the second time in two fights he's looked like "Bambi" on ice and climbed back into the fray. Steve is a true warrior and champion. Hernandez should be justly proud to have defeated him.

hernandez finished that fight pretty strong, but he did have some poor rounds.

I saw the fight just one time (thank you, Phantom5). I didn't keep score, but I thought Hernandez was the clear winner. When you don't keep score it can seem that a fight is closer or wider than your impressions. That being said, it did appear to me that the scores were rather wide. "Hernandez erasing all doubts" has more to do with the controversy surrounding the first fight, I think. Like most people, I wasn't crazy about the way the first meeting between these two fighters ended. I was very proud of the way Yoan Pablo acquitted himself in the rematch. He clearly defeated a true champion in Cunningham. You make a sound observation about Hernandez's stamina. I also get the impression that Yoan Pablo gasses early. He needs to bring up his conditioning. Hernandez isn't a monster cruiserweight; but with the proper training, he can be champ for a while. It would be a very good thing for him; they seem to love Yoan Pablo in Germany.Good post, thanks for understanding what I was saying. I agree Yoan Pablo could have a bright future. I think he needs a new conditioning coach, and learn to relax and simply put his punches together rather than put everything into every shot. He reminds me of Pascal in ways when it comes to the stamina issues. As for Cuningham, he's getting older. Between aging and inactivity I think it caused him alot of issues against Hernandez, that's what he needs to work on. His management need to keep him active.

Like I said, I don't have an issue with Hernandez winning obviously, just saying all this "erased all doubts" stuff, just doesn't truly describe the way the fight went. When I heard everyone talking about it, and reading the articles I was expecting a more complete performance from Hernandez. He looked really flat in alot of the rounds, while Cunningham was doing effective work with the jab and body shots. I just think those two big knockdowns effected peoples view of how the whole affair truly went down, that's really all I'm saying...Not trying to make a big deal out of it.

Am I the only one here who thought this was way closer than the judges scorecards suggested? Don't get me wrong here, I can understand Hernandez getting the decision, but those scores were to wide. I had Cunningham winning more rounds, but had it scored a draw due to the 2 KD'S. Rounds 6-11 Cunningham was really the only one putting in any work, Hernandez didn't come back on until the 12th. So that "Hernandez erased all doubts article" is highly deceptive in my opinion. Hernandez has serious stamina issues he needs to work on. Alot of Ulli Wegner fighters have this issue Abraham, Huck etc. Every punch they throw they put everything into. I just thought Cunningham put forth the more consistent effective work throughout the 12 round affair. Just my two cents. Also, I'm not much of a fan of either boxer. I saw the fight just one time (thank you, Phantom5). I didn't keep score, but I thought Hernandez was the clear winner. When you don't keep score it can seem that a fight is closer or wider than your impressions. That being said, it did appear to me that the scores were rather wide. "Hernandez erasing all doubts" has more to do with the controversy surrounding the first fight, I think. Like most people, I wasn't crazy about the way the first meeting between these two fighters ended. I was very proud of the way Yoan Pablo acquitted himself in the rematch. He clearly defeated a true champion in Cunningham. You make a sound observation about Hernandez's stamina. I also get the impression that Yoan Pablo gasses early. He needs to bring up his conditioning. Hernandez isn't a monster cruiserweight; but with the proper training, he can be champ for a while. It would be a very good thing for him; they seem to love Yoan Pablo in Germany.

The right guy won. That's the bottom line. /thread............

The right guy won. That's the bottom line.

It was a decent fight, and Cunningham made a very good account of himself. But in the end, Hernandez was clearly the better man in the ring. The scores were quite wide indeed, I had it 115:112 for Yoan Pablo.