If Cotto was still with Top Rank..

The cotto fight would have happened all because of arum nasty c*nt, Pac - May would happen overnight if he left Arum

floyd fans are still on the "blame arum for the fight not happening".:nonono: arum is a big time promter...that's what he do. floyd on the other hand is a fighter. problem is floyd also wants to control the promotions of his fights. of course that doesn't sit well with arum if floyd wants to fight top rank fighters because floyd is taking his profits away. they both mean business and want more money...nothing wrong with that but this "blame arum" excuse is getting old. if floyd will only let arum promote the fight, arum will make the fight in a heartbeat. he hates it so much when floyd brings in gbp though which is understandable. so the problem really is not just arum but both arum and floyd...and their business conflicts. the notion that arum doesn't want his fighters or his cashcows to lose to floyd is retarded. arum is a veteran promoter to know that loses suffered by ppv fighters doesn't really make a big impact to their ppv potential. tyson lost to douglas, dela hoya against trinidad and to a lesser extent cotto against margarito and hatton losing to floyd. they're still ppv stars after the loss. its just Arum get your head out of you ass Floyd has no problems dealing with Todd Debouff or Richard Schaefer

LOL! "if Floyd would just let Arum promote the fight" LMBAO! "Floyd fans still playing the blame Arum game" LMFBAO! We all know what happens when Arum promotes the fights, he talks 25 mill but pays 6. GTFOH WITH THAT BULLSHYT! yes because a promoter promoting a fight is bull*****:ugh: and floyd hires gbp to promote his fights...dunno why :dunno: i got no love for that old a$$ arum but i got a clear grasp of reality...floyd doesn't want arum to earn money from his fights. of course that's his prerogative and you can't blame him. at the same time arum would rather do in house fights if he could make more profits than co-promoting a big fight but would make less money...can't blame him as well. it's all business.

LOL! "if Floyd would just let Arum promote the fight" LMBAO! "Floyd fans still playing the blame Arum game" LMFBAO! We all know what happens when Arum promotes the fights, he talks 25 mill but pays 6. GTFOH WITH THAT BULLSHYT! Some of this guys are just morons, I have heard of sucking a fighters a** but these guys actually sucks a promoters a** just because he promoters their favourite fighter a dumb a** fighter at that too.

floyd fans are still on the "blame arum for the fight not happening".:nonono: arum is a big time promter...that's what he do. floyd on the other hand is a fighter. problem is floyd also wants to control the promotions of his fights. of course that doesn't sit well with arum if floyd wants to fight top rank fighters because floyd is taking his profits away. they both mean business and want more money...nothing wrong with that but this "blame arum" excuse is getting old. if floyd will only let arum promote the fight, arum will make the fight in a heartbeat. he hates it so much when floyd brings in gbp though which is understandable. so the problem really is not just arum but both arum and floyd...and their business conflicts. the notion that arum doesn't want his fighters or his cashcows to lose to floyd is retarded. arum is a veteran promoter to know that loses suffered by ppv fighters doesn't really make a big impact to their ppv potential. tyson lost to douglas, dela hoya against trinidad and to a lesser extent cotto against margarito and hatton losing to floyd. they're still ppv stars after the loss.LOL! "if Floyd would just let Arum promote the fight" LMBAO! "Floyd fans still playing the blame Arum game" LMFBAO! We all know what happens when Arum promotes the fights, he talks 25 mill but pays 6. GTFOH WITH THAT BULLSHYT!

hahahahah noooooooooooooooooooo, bob is like record executive, pay dudes a flat fee while making 10 times more.

floyd fans are still on the "blame arum for the fight not happening".:nonono: arum is a big time promter...that's what he do. floyd on the other hand is a fighter. problem is floyd also wants to control the promotions of his fights. of course that doesn't sit well with arum if floyd wants to fight top rank fighters because floyd is taking his profits away. they both mean business and want more money...nothing wrong with that but this "blame arum" excuse is getting old. if floyd will only let arum promote the fight, arum will make the fight in a heartbeat. he hates it so much when floyd brings in gbp though which is understandable. so the problem really is not just arum but both arum and floyd...and their business conflicts. the notion that arum doesn't want his fighters or his cashcows to lose to floyd is retarded. arum is a veteran promoter to know that loses suffered by ppv fighters doesn't really make a big impact to their ppv potential. tyson lost to douglas, dela hoya against trinidad and to a lesser extent cotto against margarito and hatton losing to floyd. they're still ppv stars after the loss. It reminds me of Christians with the whole "The devil made me do it" excuse. They blame Arum (who I admit is a douche bag) for all of their troubles and everything that is wrong in boxing. It's fvkin pathetic.

But at the time, Arum said "its too soon.." http://www.fighthype.com/pages/oldarchive.php?aid=4261 Hmmm how is that for facts!!!

But at the time, Arum said "its too soon.." http://www.fighthype.com/pages/oldarchive.php?aid=4261 Of course it was, and why do you Floyd fans bring that up? What was Floyd trying to do in fighting a 140lb version of Cotto who wasn't fully developed as a fighter, who's best when was a faded DeMarcus Corley and was struggling to make weight? The time to fight Cotto was the 147lb version who had just came off an impressive string of victories against Judah, Mosley etc.

floyd fans are still on the "blame arum for the fight not happening".:nonono: arum is a big time promter...that's what he do. floyd on the other hand is a fighter. problem is floyd also wants to control the promotions of his fights. of course that doesn't sit well with arum if floyd wants to fight top rank fighters because floyd is taking his profits away. they both mean business and want more money...nothing wrong with that but this "blame arum" excuse is getting old. if floyd will only let arum promote the fight, arum will make the fight in a heartbeat. he hates it so much when floyd brings in gbp though which is understandable. so the problem really is not just arum but both arum and floyd...and their business conflicts. the notion that arum doesn't want his fighters or his cashcows to lose to floyd is retarded. arum is a veteran promoter to know that loses suffered by ppv fighters doesn't really make a big impact to their ppv potential. tyson lost to douglas, dela hoya against trinidad and to a lesser extent cotto against margarito and hatton losing to floyd. they're still ppv stars after the loss.

This^^^^ GBP did the same thing with Marquez and Mosley. Basically since Bob had his panties in a bunch when it came to working with GBP, Oscar and Co. stated they would set aside to allow JMM and Shane to get a Pacquiao fight. But at the time, Arum said "its too soon.." http://www.fighthype.com/pages/oldarchive.php?aid=4261

lol....but who's fault was it? Definitely not Arum, seeing how JuanMaricon also ducked Caba during that time as well. That fight didn't happen because of Juanma = fact Just showing you a little fact thats all.

yes been told numberous times that Top Rank would have let Cotto negotiate his own deal with Mayweather as long as they got a fee. Was also told they would have been willing to promote the fight in the case that Mayweather wanted to use their services (better than GBP IMO) essentially the same deal with Manny they were flexible about it Thats a good deal if true.

yes been told numberous times that Top Rank would have let Cotto negotiate his own deal with Mayweather as long as they got a fee. Was also told they would have been willing to promote the fight in the case that Mayweather wanted to use their services (better than GBP IMO) essentially the same deal with Manny they were flexible about it This^^^^ GBP did the same thing with Marquez and Mosley. Basically since Bob had his panties in a bunch when it came to working with GBP, Oscar and Co. stated they would set aside to allow JMM and Shane to get a Pacquiao fight.

Here is another fact since you like facts, Gamboa and Juanma were both under Arum and people were calling for those two to fight, Did Arum make the fight? lol....but who's fault was it? Definitely not Arum, seeing how JuanMaricon also ducked Caba during that time as well. That fight didn't happen because of Juanma = fact

I like facts...so I definitely like this reply. @flo-hoes Both Floyd and Cotto were under Top Rank, so how was Arum the problem in making this fight ? I thought u guys said Arum is greedy and likes to keeps his fights in house? If that's the case, then no doubt Arum would be jumping at both a Cotto and Margarito fight for Floyd. Fights never happened....not because of Arum but because of Floyd's vagina. Here is another fact since you like facts, Gamboa and Juanma were both under Arum and people were calling for those two to fight, Did Arum make the fight?

Wouldn't doubt it.... more Money for Bob

If Cotto was still with top rank he'd be fighting at a mannyweight of 148 with his 154 title on the line. End thread....................

Would we finally be getting Cotto vs Floyd? tell me what u guys think yes been told numberous times that Top Rank would have let Cotto negotiate his own deal with Mayweather as long as they got a fee. Was also told they would have been willing to promote the fight in the case that Mayweather wanted to use their services (better than GBP IMO) essentially the same deal with Manny they were flexible about it

I like facts...so I definitely like this reply. @flo-hoes Both Floyd and Cotto were under Top Rank, so how was Arum the problem in making this fight ? I thought u guys said Arum is greedy and likes to keeps his fights in house? If that's the case, then no doubt Arum would be jumping at both a Cotto and Margarito fight for Floyd. Fights never happened....not because of Arum but because of Floyd's vagina. Floyd and Arum couldn't agree on money for Cotto/Hatton/Marg. Its not like those fights were not explored. Floyd wanted Cotto back then. I do agree he was not too crazy about the idea of fighting Marg though. At least not for the money being offered for the three fights in question.