Mosley Vs. Margarito Fallout

All roads lead to The Tijuana Tornado! :hail: To a certain point thats true Its funny how more roads lead to him AFTER getting destroyed :lol1:

That's what I was going to say. Out of recent years, that's the main example where one fight changed the whole outlook on Boxing, the one before that was Mayweather-Oscar. Boxing has always been that way, always. The entire Boxing world can change in a split second at any given time, it's just always been that way. What if Ali didn't go to Prison? What if Conn didn't bang with Louis? What if the ref rightfully stopped the fight in the first round of the Benn-McClellan fight? 3 examples where the outlook of Boxing history could be completely different today. Imagine, if McClellan won that fight by KO1. And hypothetically, got some help from the Doctor, had a year off and fully recovered and was fight to fight. Let's say he met up with Roy Jones in 1998 and knocked him out like Tarver did and in effect Roy was never the same and his career panned out exactly how it did post Tarver for Roy. In result, one split second, one wrong decision, would change the entire outlook of the Boxing world and the history of it many years later. A long list of historic fights would be replaced with different ones. And that's the great thing about Boxing, the smallest, minuscule thing can change everything. Yes its crazy how tiny things in the sport can have HUGE affects for years to come I honestly think that if McClellan won that bout and came into the RJJ fight good, then he would have won and RJJ wouldnt have been RJJ

Oscar wasn't going to fight cotto he was already talking bout 'my wife is Puerto rican so I can't disrespect her ' now if Oscar wasn't trying to cherry pick a lw and fought the winner pac would have never become the huge star he is today so that's something to think about. That's what I was going to say. Out of recent years, that's the main example where one fight changed the whole outlook on Boxing, the one before that was Mayweather-Oscar. Boxing has always been that way, always. The entire Boxing world can change in a split second at any given time, it's just always been that way. What if Ali didn't go to Prison? What if Conn didn't bang with Louis? What if the ref rightfully stopped the fight in the first round of the Benn-McClellan fight? 3 examples where the outlook of Boxing history could be completely different today. Imagine, if McClellan won that fight by KO1. And hypothetically, got some help from the Doctor, had a year off and fully recovered and was fight to fight. Let's say he met up with Roy Jones in 1998 and knocked him out like Tarver did and in effect Roy was never the same and his career panned out exactly how it did post Tarver for Roy. In result, one split second, one wrong decision, would change the entire outlook of the Boxing world and the history of it many years later. A long list of historic fights would be replaced with different ones. And that's the great thing about Boxing, the smallest, minuscule thing can change everything.

You're right, i didnt even consider the "what-ifs" if the fight actually turned out the way it was suppose to Its crazy

This fight is actually one of the more 'important' fights in boxing history. The "what if?" scenarios that come from it are insane. The most notable one of them all is the fact that De La Hoya by all rights should have fought Antonio Margarito but pussied out and thought he would cherry pick Manny Pacquiao; setting up Pacquiao to become a gigantic mainstream star and in essence setting Margarito up to get caught cheating by Nazim Richardson since he only fought Mosley as a back up plan to not getting Oscar. What if Oscar fought Margarito instead of Pacquiao? What all happens in boxing instead? - Manny Pacquiao most likely fights Juan Diaz and at the time even going to 135 would be seen as taking a huge risk. He would have destroyed The Baby Bull, setting up the same fight with Hatton at 140 next. There is no reason to think the same fight doesn't occur there. - Oscar would have done a number on Margarito and stopped him; but probably not at that point in time. Margarito, specifically a loaded one, probably walks through Oscar and stops him within eight rounds. He would look like an unbeatable monster to some. If they could get him in the ring with Margarito then most likely Margarito goes after Berto and would have beaten him handily. - Shane Mosley had looked pretty bad against Mayorga. Paul Williams probably would have won the race of fighters trying to make a name wanting to get to the Mosley that fought Mayorga. Not sure what happens in this fight. Mosley has power but Williams had an epic chin. All things considered I would probably take Mosley to take a beating for most of the night but pull out a really late stoppage with a barrage of shorts hooks on the inside when Williams looks to close the show. The other two options at the time were Sergio Martinez (prediction: Martinez shocks the boxing world and stops Mosley. He would be a much bigger star than he is now.) and Vernon Forrest (prediction: Forrest outboxes Mosley early... not sure how it ends. At this time Forrest was more aware of trying to score stoppages and might run into something. Doesn't matter really; I'd only think the first two fights probable.) - You would have Floyd Mayweather still in the mix because everybody knew he wasn't really retired, a 140 pound dynamo in Manny Pacquiao that people still would think would get destroyed at 147 while Roach tells the world Pacquiao would beat anybody at 147, and then the 147 pound champion Antonio Margarito would look like a killer, and at 154 but willing to fight at 147 is a revived Shane Mosley who looks vulnerable but still has that punching power as evidenced by two late stoppage victories. Interesting little boxing world right there. thats a cool story bro

Anybody ever think about what kind of affect this fight had on the 147/154 division as well as boxing as a whole? Nah. It's the Mexiphobes' support of an obviously cheating Pacroid that will affect boxing. :sombrero::sombrero::sombrero:

This fight is actually one of the more 'important' fights in boxing history. The "what if?" scenarios that come from it are insane. The most notable one of them all is the fact that De La Hoya by all rights should have fought Antonio Margarito but pussied out and thought he would cherry pick Manny Pacquiao; setting up Pacquiao to become a gigantic mainstream star and in essence setting Margarito up to get caught cheating by Nazim Richardson since he only fought Mosley as a back up plan to not getting Oscar. What if Oscar fought Margarito instead of Pacquiao? What all happens in boxing instead? - Manny Pacquiao most likely fights Juan Diaz and at the time even going to 135 would be seen as taking a huge risk. He would have destroyed The Baby Bull, setting up the same fight with Hatton at 140 next. There is no reason to think the same fight doesn't occur there. - Oscar would have done a number on Margarito and stopped him; but probably not at that point in time. Margarito, specifically a loaded one, probably walks through Oscar and stops him within eight rounds. He would look like an unbeatable monster to some. If they could get him in the ring with Margarito then most likely Margarito goes after Berto and would have beaten him handily. - Shane Mosley had looked pretty bad against Mayorga. Paul Williams probably would have won the race of fighters trying to make a name wanting to get to the Mosley that fought Mayorga. Not sure what happens in this fight. Mosley has power but Williams had an epic chin. All things considered I would probably take Mosley to take a beating for most of the night but pull out a really late stoppage with a barrage of shorts hooks on the inside when Williams looks to close the show. The other two options at the time were Sergio Martinez (prediction: Martinez shocks the boxing world and stops Mosley. He would be a much bigger star than he is now.) and Vernon Forrest (prediction: Forrest outboxes Mosley early... not sure how it ends. At this time Forrest was more aware of trying to score stoppages and might run into something. Doesn't matter really; I'd only think the first two fights probable.) - You would have Floyd Mayweather still in the mix because everybody knew he wasn't really retired, a 140 pound dynamo in Manny Pacquiao that people still would think would get destroyed at 147 while Roach tells the world Pacquiao would beat anybody at 147, and then the 147 pound champion Antonio Margarito would look like a killer, and at 154 but willing to fight at 147 is a revived Shane Mosley who looks vulnerable but still has that punching power as evidenced by two late stoppage victories. Interesting little boxing world right there. green k for the descriptive visualization :kiss:

You wanna talk about a fight influencing boxing, go back a couple years to Marg - Cotto. If Cotto wins that fight we have Oscar vs. Cotto happening in 08', Manny Pacquiao stays at the lower divisions for a couple more years, and Cotto if he wins becomes the superstar. yep..so true

This fight is actually one of the more 'important' fights in boxing history. The "what if?" scenarios that come from it are insane. The most notable one of them all is the fact that De La Hoya by all rights should have fought Antonio Margarito but pussied out and thought he would cherry pick Manny Pacquiao; setting up Pacquiao to become a gigantic mainstream star and in essence setting Margarito up to get caught cheating by Nazim Richardson since he only fought Mosley as a back up plan to not getting Oscar. What if Oscar fought Margarito instead of Pacquiao? What all happens in boxing instead? - Manny Pacquiao most likely fights Juan Diaz and at the time even going to 135 would be seen as taking a huge risk. He would have destroyed The Baby Bull, setting up the same fight with Hatton at 140 next. There is no reason to think the same fight doesn't occur there. - Oscar would have done a number on Margarito and stopped him; but probably not at that point in time. Margarito, specifically a loaded one, probably walks through Oscar and stops him within eight rounds. He would look like an unbeatable monster to some. If they could get him in the ring with Margarito then most likely Margarito goes after Berto and would have beaten him handily. - Shane Mosley had looked pretty bad against Mayorga. Paul Williams probably would have won the race of fighters trying to make a name wanting to get to the Mosley that fought Mayorga. Not sure what happens in this fight. Mosley has power but Williams had an epic chin. All things considered I would probably take Mosley to take a beating for most of the night but pull out a really late stoppage with a barrage of shorts hooks on the inside when Williams looks to close the show. The other two options at the time were Sergio Martinez (prediction: Martinez shocks the boxing world and stops Mosley. He would be a much bigger star than he is now.) and Vernon Forrest (prediction: Forrest outboxes Mosley early... not sure how it ends. At this time Forrest was more aware of trying to score stoppages and might run into something. Doesn't matter really; I'd only think the first two fights probable.) - You would have Floyd Mayweather still in the mix because everybody knew he wasn't really retired, a 140 pound dynamo in Manny Pacquiao that people still would think would get destroyed at 147 while Roach tells the world Pacquiao would beat anybody at 147, and then the 147 pound champion Antonio Margarito would look like a killer, and at 154 but willing to fight at 147 is a revived Shane Mosley who looks vulnerable but still has that punching power as evidenced by two late stoppage victories. Interesting little boxing world right there.

You wanna talk about a fight influencing boxing, go back a couple years to Marg - Cotto. If Cotto wins that fight we have Oscar vs. Cotto happening in 08', Manny Pacquiao stays at the lower divisions for a couple more years, and Cotto if he wins becomes the superstar. didn't realise that. That would have been nuts if that had happened.

You wanna talk about a fight influencing boxing, go back a couple years to Marg - Cotto. If Cotto wins that fight we have Oscar vs. Cotto happening in 08', Manny Pacquiao stays at the lower divisions for a couple more years, and Cotto if he wins becomes the superstar. And ultimately PAC fagg*ts wouldn't exist. Boxingscene went to shyt when these noobs came around.

You wanna talk about a fight influencing boxing, go back a couple years to Marg - Cotto. If Cotto wins that fight we have Oscar vs. Cotto happening in 08', Manny Pacquiao stays at the lower divisions for a couple more years, and Cotto if he wins becomes the superstar.

that fight has caused them getting unworthy fights where they havent even been competitive

They still a name, nothing more nothing less.