Other than Pac,FMJ, JMM, Donaire's RESUME is SUPERIOR than ALL OTHER TOP 10 P4P

I agree......

what's with all the a$$-whooping in this thread?:D donaire haters never learn:nonono:

Montiel is a much better fighter than Carl Froch. Its not even close really. Froch is a tough sob, but lets be realistic here. I cant stand when people's agendas are ao painfully obvious.

Montiel is a much better fighter than Carl Froch. Its not even close really. Froch is a tough sob, but lets be realistic here. I cant stand when people's agendas are ao painfully obvious.

Montiel is a much better fighter than Carl Froch.

how do u compare that? they fight divisions apart in divisions with vastly different landscapes. if u aint taking into account resumes, they about the same level of fighter i would guess, id give them both a b. This is a joke right? I mean you are talking pfp in this thread. You really rate froch as the same as montiel as far as transferrable boxing skills?

lets just make it real simple demp. Lets not take into account championship belts, division titles, ring magazine ratings, boxing decorations... YOu know, facts that actually tells you how great of a fighter you are. Lets just use opinions and conjecture. Whose the better fighter, Montiel or Carl Froch? :rofl: how do u compare that? they fight divisions apart in divisions with vastly different landscapes. if u aint taking into account resumes, they about the same level of fighter i would guess, id give them both a b.

well, it was montiel's 19th world championship fight....... he was coming off of about 7-8 ko wins straight defending his belts and had more than 10 defenses of his title and unifying against a guy coming off of about 9 straight fights defending his title.... so yeah, I"m saying that's better than what froch and kessler had accomplished. I guess you're conceding Vic D as a better win than either kessler or froch. you want to argue that many think froch beat kessler, but many more people think dirrel beat froch... me i dont value championship defenses nowadays they mean jack. what matters more is who u defended them against. and like i said, montiel doesnt have better wins than froch. and darchinyan was a beast and a rising star when donaire fought him, i have no issue conceding that. he was a great win. and i did put a question mark next to dirrell as well, i thought dirrell won too.

we all know what's going on here walt. If Nonito Donaire was named Nate Davis, the very same posters slagging him will disappear and will become Nate Davis stans. Lulz. Im not saying all that but nonito clearly has 2 better wins than wards best wins. In response to the guy who threw floyd in there, Vic and montiel proved their worth of being on the pfp list. Unlike overrated ass hatton and shane just cuz of one win. See my previous post. Corrales definitely earned his way on the pfp list and that was a legitimately brilliant win/performance for floyd. Prob his career best.

Yes he does. Montiel and Darchinyan were Ring Magazine top 10 p4p in the entire sport when donaire scored award winning KOs of both of them. people have such short memories. they forget darchinyan was a undefeated fighter knocking everyone out until donaire got to him. yes im for real. Read the thread title. Yes bhop has a better resume but he's no longer top 10 p4p. vic d's dramatic ko over pacheco was tremendous.

n ok lets do this, who has montiel beat that makes him a better win than either kessler or froch? was it hasegawa? ehhh...or how about conception? maldonado? i dont see it. montiel is a good win, its not a better win than either of those guys imo. im mistaken about him not being p4p, but honestly i dont understand why he would have been on the list back then. and i do give pac more credit for bein active. ****, thats the only way it would be possible to have him over floyd at this point anyways, he hasnt fought the better opposition as of late and he damn sure hasnt looked that impressive either. well, it was montiel's 19th world championship fight....... he was coming off of about 7-8 ko wins straight defending his belts and had more than 10 defenses of his title and unifying against a guy coming off of about 9 straight fights defending his title.... so yeah, I"m saying that's better than what froch and kessler had accomplished. I guess you're conceding Vic D as a better win than either kessler or froch. you want to argue that many think froch beat kessler, but many more people think dirrel beat froch...

montiel has beaten more world champiosns than forch and kessler combined man and has done it in 3 divisions...theres no case on this man.. montiel and dachinyan>>>>>any win on wards resume... Montiel was a great win. Darchinyan was a really good win at the time. Other then that, H. Marquez, Martinez, Mthalane, and Vazquez were decent wins at the most though. Marquez was coming off a loss, and the others were just decent to pretty good fighters. Nonito is great and he has a pretty good resume, but he could have made it incredible thus far had he fought Mares, Moreno, and Agbeko before leaving 122. Yes, he beat Montiel, but he was definitely not the only good Bantamweight there. We'll learn more about Nonito's legacy in the next 3-4 years than we've learned thus far, given he fights the right people as well.

Donaire has 2 top 10 p4p scalps, Ward and Bradley have none (Froch could have been in tho). Bradley probably no top 20. Also, both guys have done work in one div only, Donaire is in his 4th. And he's been pretty dominant all along. He struggled as much with Vazquez as Ward did with Bika, or Bradley with Abregu. It's easier for a guy at Flyweight to end up jumping divisions rapidly than a guy at 140 and another at 168. The weight jumps become increasingly more difficult given there's more lbs between each division. Bradley has an underrated resume though. Witter, Holt, Abregu, Peterson, and Alexander were all good wins. Nonito has a really good Flyweight resume, a decent Super Flyweight resume, a decent Bantamweight resume, only because of Montiel though. He could have easily fought Mares, Moreno, and Agbeko but didn't. And now he looks poised to not fight Rigondeaux, clearly his biggest threat at 122. Darchinyan and Montiel were both Top 10 P4P and they are good wins. But, I find it funny that so many people on here bring that up with Donaire, but then refuse to talk about how Corrales, Hatton, Mosley, and Marquez were all P4P when Floyd whooped them all easily. Nonito will define his legacy mostly in the next 3-4 years, given he fights the right people eventually.

montiel's hasegawa, concepcion, maldonado, is not more impressive than froch's pascal, taylor, dirrell(?), abraham, johnson. plus a close fight with kessler that many thought he won. montiel has beaten more world champiosns than forch and kessler combined man and has done it in 3 divisions...theres no case on this man.. montiel and dachinyan>>>>>any win on wards resume...

montiel's hasegawa, concepcion, maldonado, is not more impressive than froch's pascal, taylor, dirrell(?), abraham, johnson. plus a close fight with kessler that many thought he won.

How you figure? He does if u use ring managzine's or boxingscene's lists. Seems like you're giving ward credit for being more active... Do you do the same for pac when comparing to floyd? Actually montiel and vic d are much better wins than kessler and froch. Like way much more better. Nonito also beat his best wins in much more devastaing fashion. How is marquez like allen green and miranda? Those guys are worse wins there too. You need to look at this a little more objectively. Do i really need to explain how kessler and froch are worse wins than vic and montiel? I mean the last two had earned their spots on everyones pfp list at th time at the bare minimum. n ok lets do this, who has montiel beat that makes him a better win than either kessler or froch? was it hasegawa? ehhh...or how about conception? maldonado? i dont see it. montiel is a good win, its not a better win than either of those guys imo. im mistaken about him not being p4p, but honestly i dont understand why he would have been on the list back then. and i do give pac more credit for bein active. ****, thats the only way it would be possible to have him over floyd at this point anyways, he hasnt fought the better opposition as of late and he damn sure hasnt looked that impressive either.

donaire doesnt have 2 top ten p4p scalps. How you figure? He does if u use ring managzine's or boxingscene's lists. Seems like you're giving ward credit for being more active... Do you do the same for pac when comparing to floyd?

u made the thread. how about u explain how donaires is better? his best wins are darchinyan, and montiel. thats comparable to froch and kessler but imo, the edge goes to ward. sydorenko is comparable to abaraham as well, id say abraham is better tho. then u have wins like marquez, maldonaldo, and mthalane which are comparable to bika, allan green and miranda. the edge there might go to donaire. either way, its close, but i do think ward has went thru the tougher schedule and hes fought at a weight much more natural for him. Actually montiel and vic d are much better wins than kessler and froch. Like way much more better. Nonito also beat his best wins in much more devastaing fashion. How is marquez like allen green and miranda? Those guys are worse wins there too. You need to look at this a little more objectively. Do i really need to explain how kessler and froch are worse wins than vic and montiel? I mean the last two had earned their spots on everyones pfp list at th time at the bare minimum.

Donaire has 2 top 10 p4p scalps, Ward and Bradley have none (Froch could have been in tho). Bradley probably no top 20. Also, both guys have done work in one div only, Donaire is in his 4th. And he's been pretty dominant all along. He struggled as much with Vazquez as Ward did with Bika, or Bradley with Abregu. donaire doesnt have 2 top ten p4p scalps.

WTF?!?!?...dude, is you for real?!?!?....B.Hop's resume is better than everybody's...including Whitney's and Mariah's....Flash is legit but he's not putting together some Froch type resume...be real not a **** rider!!! :You_Rock_:headbang::hail: