Seriously, STFU about SERGIO getting Ducked because HE'S BEEN DUCKING TOO

It doesn't matter what he walks around at if he is making the weight unassisted by banned substances he is a legit MW and is not obligated at all to fight guys in the divisions north of that. neither do floyd and manny who have traversed greater divisions than sergio.

i think i wont. He was calling out floyd and pac and they were welterweights except floyd until recently. Now floyd has no choice to fight sergio next after cotto or else he will be ducking him. that's if sergio can still fight at 154. Yep Floyd opened up that possibility. So we shall see what occurs in the future.

it is so many overrated fighters in this ERA if boxing it is PATHETIC other then Mayweather, Ward, JMM and the Klitschko's...I am really starting to think that the rest are OVERRATED HYPED JOBS by Top Rank, GBP and even HBO has joined in on building up fighters and HYPING THE HELL OUT OF THEM Martinez could fight GGG, Pirog, Daniel Geale, N'Dam N'Jikam in his OWN DIVISION, but clearly he is looking for PAY DAYS at this point since he is not a young guy and really don't have time to fight guys who are a legit threat but can't provide big paydays for him i just love how you left out pacquiao in your other than comments slagging pac and top rank when you forget that mayweather was created and by top rank and only left once he got a name. complete opposite of pacquiao who already had wins against hall of fame fighters and multiple division crowns under his belt and before top rank got their hands on him. good job showing your noobness and biases.

I was tempted to make a thread asking ''How many hall of famers are on Sergio's resume? Don't worry I will wait''. He is comparable to indie music, not bad but people will overlook faults because it is different from the mainstream. To this day people don't give Bernard Hopkins credit for stopping De La Hoya because he pulled him up one weight class too far which is why I find it funny that people think it is respectful that Martinez is calling out Mayweather and Pacquiao. By all means chase that cash but as far as I'm concerned he will not receive any credit for taking the fight and I would laugh out loud if he got his ass whooped. When people think of Martinez beating Pacquiao or Mayweather it has little to do with his ability as a boxer, the problem is poses is directly linked to him being 2 weight classes bigger than them. If he wants to make the big bucks, take a risk and fight the fighters in the weight classes above him.

it is so many overrated fighters in this ERA if boxing it is PATHETIC other then Mayweather, Ward, JMM and the Klitschko's...I am really starting to think that the rest are OVERRATED HYPED JOBS by Top Rank, GBP and even HBO has joined in on building up fighters and HYPING THE HELL OUT OF THEM Martinez could fight GGG, Pirog, Daniel Geale, N'Dam N'Jikam in his OWN DIVISION, but clearly he is looking for PAY DAYS at this point since he is not a young guy and really don't have time to fight guys who are a legit threat but can't provide big paydays for him

It's not the same, just because Pacquiao could get 40 pounds on and still be fast and strong doesn't mean that everybody can do it. There are different body frames, different muscle fibers combination and a lot of other factors that define if a boxer is able or not to move between weight classes. and sergio has all the capabilities you just mentioned above but he"s just trying to cash out his pwill ticket by cherry picking on welter weights.

pacquiao started at 106lbs and is now fighting at 147. he walks around 150. Sergio started at what 147? he's now fighting at 160. he walks around 170-180. So no its not like asking pacquiao to move up to 154 you ****ing alt. It's not the same, just because Pacquiao could get 40 pounds on and still be fast and strong doesn't mean that everybody can do it. There are different body frames, different muscle fibers combination and a lot of other factors that define if a boxer is able or not to move between weight classes.

I used not bother posting on threads because I couldn't stand people who knew nothing about boxing claiming to be experts. Sergio is a natural light middleweight who happened to fight at 160 because Pavlik was a good fight for him.Asking him to move up to 168 is like asking pacquaio to fight 154 all the time. He isn't picking on little guys he just knows pacquiao and mayweather are the biggest names in boxing and will starve himself to get a shot at them. Did you just talk about sergio's **** and ass and then call other people homos? Its okay if you are feeling strange feelings he's a goodlooking guy. I can say that because I'm secure enough in my masculinity and heterosexuality to know that saying that doesnt mean im attracted to him. To the claim he fights nobodies just shows that you only know very mainstream fighters. Dzinurik was and is a very real fighter. He is fighting guys like that because he was just like them 2 years ago. pacquiao started at 106lbs and is now fighting at 147. he walks around 150. Sergio started at what 147? he's now fighting at 160. he walks around 170-180. So no its not like asking pacquiao to move up to 154 you ****ing alt.

sergio started at what 147? he moved up in weight to 160. what's 8 more lbs if you're such a bad ass fighter that everybody is so afraid of? not every fighter can move up weight classes like that. just cause some do it doesn't mean it should be a requirement to every fighter that should prove their worth. for example, take a look at the ring's p4p list. 6 out of the 10 fighters on the list as of now are one divisional world champions. does that mean they're not as good as the others? also, take into account that martinez is 37 this year. older guy who has never stepped on the scales at the MW limit, let alone didn't even weigh in on fight night at the SMW limit in his last fight, should be in no urge to move up in weight to prove how good he really is. there's plenty of names at 154/160 to make fights with, it's just most of them aren't established names yet (undefeated MWs who haven't fought good names yet). i'm sure if martinez fought some and beat them he'd just be blamed for fighting an untested kid though...time will tell. sergio should actually drop to 154 if he wants any chance at "big" fights. there is nobody on hbo at 160 cept poor andy lee and we all know he sucks. chavez jr doesn't count obv he will never fight him. hbo has kirkland, angulo, canelo, cotto, vanes, floyd(lol only for cotto though) hbo only makes dangerous fights when it has both guys on its network so martinez should go to 154 and try to force a fight. might not work but he can still beat up 154 bums for millions of dollars if it doesn't so who cares. who are the biggest names at 154? canelo and cotto? both of them aren't going to give him a shot. angulo already declined a fight with martinez a year or two back, i doubt he's up for it now. vanes, he's all talk and i doubt arum will let it happen. kirkland or lara might be down, but i think it should be after they create some buzz. because if it was to take place now, it'd be like fighting dzinziruk or something, not much of a name to get you more known. and fighting those guys at 154 wouldn't get him closer to pacquiao, cotto, or alvarez. only thing that can happen is mayweather fights martinez at 154 after cotto.

Im so sick and tired of sergio and his transient/qausi fan base (flomos/pactards/hispanics using sergio as a way to bash other fighters) complaining about getting ducked by chavez jr., pac, floyd, etc.... You are the middleweight champion of the world. That's 160lbs. You should be fighting middleweights. Not clamoring for fights against welterweights specifically Floyd (i cant believe im defending floyd) a career 147 & under fighter about to be on his 6th weight class and Pac, a career 130lb and under fighter on his 8th or 9th weight class and slagging them off for being scared or cherry picking when you are basically doing the same exact damn thing angling for a fight with them. If Sergio is such a bad ass he should do the righteous thing, the right thing for his legacy and career and STOP DUCKING these guys: I read somewhere that sergio walks around 170-180 lbs. If 160 is such a barren wasteland then move up to 168 and fight the deepest division in boxing with andre ward, carl froch, lucian bute, arthur abraham and a host of other legitimate contenders. In conclusion, STFU larryx, fake sergio fans using sergio as a way to bash certain fighters, and posters with homosexual tendencies in love with sergio face (& quite possibly his ass & c*ck). I used not bother posting on threads because I couldn't stand people who knew nothing about boxing claiming to be experts. Sergio is a natural light middleweight who happened to fight at 160 because Pavlik was a good fight for him.Asking him to move up to 168 is like asking pacquaio to fight 154 all the time. He isn't picking on little guys he just knows pacquiao and mayweather are the biggest names in boxing and will starve himself to get a shot at them. Did you just talk about sergio's **** and ass and then call other people homos? Its okay if you are feeling strange feelings he's a goodlooking guy. I can say that because I'm secure enough in my masculinity and heterosexuality to know that saying that doesnt mean im attracted to him. To the claim he fights nobodies just shows that you only know very mainstream fighters. Dzinurik was and is a very real fighter. He is fighting guys like that because he was just like them 2 years ago.

sergio should actually drop to 154 if he wants any chance at "big" fights. there is nobody on hbo at 160 cept poor andy lee and we all know he sucks. chavez jr doesn't count obv he will never fight him. hbo has kirkland, angulo, canelo, cotto, vanes, floyd(lol only for cotto though) hbo only makes dangerous fights when it has both guys on its network so martinez should go to 154 and try to force a fight. might not work but he can still beat up 154 bums for millions of dollars if it doesn't so who cares. if sergio can move down to 154 then he should do it. why did he move up to 160 in the first place? His reluctance to fight at the very rich 168llb division reminds me of your favorite fighter in the world daguum. lmfaoo at your avi quote.

sergio should actually drop to 154 if he wants any chance at "big" fights. there is nobody on hbo at 160 cept poor andy lee and we all know he sucks. chavez jr doesn't count obv he will never fight him. hbo has kirkland, angulo, canelo, cotto, vanes, floyd(lol only for cotto though) hbo only makes dangerous fights when it has both guys on its network so martinez should go to 154 and try to force a fight. might not work but he can still beat up 154 bums for millions of dollars if it doesn't so who cares.

- pacquiao fought margarito at a 150 lb c/w. he won the wbc 154 lb belt. - mayweather beat dlh for the wbc 154 lb belt. he is now facing cotto for the wba 154 lb belt. - when pacquiao fought margarito, margarito weighed in at 164/165 (not sure which one) on fight night. - when mayweather fought ortiz, ortiz weighed in at 164 on fight. - martinez's last fight against darren barker he weighed 165 on fight night. he has said he is willing to fight them at 150 lbs! that's 10-8 more lbs he has to lose on the scale. those are all facts. now: has martinez ever fought at SMW before? has he ever held a title there? what's the problem? if martinez can make the weight, the fight can be made. if martinez is so overhyped and a bum, then why can't these ATG's you be dickriding fight him? and even then, when pacquiao moved up to fight for a title, did he fight the best. no, he fought an unranked antonio margarito. people are asking him to fight ward or bute, the best 2 SMWs now. fuckin pacquiao and mayweather won't even fight each other. sergio started at what 147? he moved up in weight to 160. what's 8 more lbs if you're such a bad ass fighter that everybody is so afraid of?

I know, but if he weights in around 164 for the weight in and then re hydrates to around 170-172 he's going to be severely out weighted by the regular SMWs, who are going to be 168 on weight in and 180+ on fight night. Also regular SMWs are going to be completely comfortable and at their best in that weight, while Martinez is going to be slower than he normally is at 160, so it wouldn't actually be Sergio Martinez at 100% in the SMW division. cmon dude. how many fighters in the history of this game have been outweighed by so much more and still kicked ass? stop making excuses.

- pacquiao fought margarito at a 150 lb c/w. he won the wbc 154 lb belt. - mayweather beat dlh for the wbc 154 lb belt. he is now facing cotto for the wba 154 lb belt. - when pacquiao fought margarito, margarito weighed in at 164/165 (not sure which one) on fight night. - when mayweather fought ortiz, ortiz weighed in at 164 on fight. - martinez's last fight against darren barker he weighed 165 on fight night. he has said he is willing to fight them at 150 lbs! that's 10-8 more lbs he has to lose on the scale. those are all facts. now: has martinez ever fought at SMW before? has he ever held a title there? what's the problem? if martinez can make the weight, the fight can be made. if martinez is so overhyped and a bum, then why can't these ATG's you be dickriding fight him? and even then, when pacquiao moved up to fight for a title, did he fight the best. no, he fought an unranked antonio margarito. people are asking him to fight ward or bute, the best 2 SMWs now. fuckin pacquiao and mayweather won't even fight each other.

he doesnt have to weigh in at exactly 168 you know. this is what i hate about boxing in this 24 hr rehydration era. too much emphasis and over analysis with weights using it as excuses as a way to discredit or bash other fighters. fighters of yesteryear used to weigh in on the night of the fight below the weight class they were fighting in. IF sergio walks around 170-180, he has no problem fighting at 168. He's just doing his best joe calzaghe impression trying to hide out in a barren division while divisions around him have a host of legitimate challenges. I know, but if he weights in around 164 for the weight in and then re hydrates to around 170-172 he's going to be severely out weighted by the regular SMWs, who are going to be 168 on weight in and 180+ on fight night. Also regular SMWs are going to be completely comfortable and at their best in that weight, while Martinez is going to be slower than he normally is at 160, so it wouldn't actually be Sergio Martinez at 100% in the SMW division.

I think I read sometime that he walks around 174 when he's out of shape, that means a lot more fat than when he's in fighting shape. He could walk at 190 but he would also be fat, so walking at some weight is not really that important. For Martinez to be at his best, he has to keep a low weight. He relies on speed and reflexes and too much muscle and weight will diminish those attributes, that's why he's actually pretty small for MW and for SMW he would be tiny. Sure, Martinez could pack more muscle to get to 168, but he'll be slow as fuck, that's why he has to stick to his current weight. he doesnt have to weigh in at exactly 168 you know. this is what i hate about boxing in this 24 hr rehydration era. too much emphasis and over analysis with weights using it as excuses as a way to discredit or bash other fighters. fighters of yesteryear used to weigh in on the night of the fight below the weight class they were fighting in. IF sergio walks around 170-180, he has no problem fighting at 168. He's just doing his best joe calzaghe impression trying to hide out in a barren division while divisions around him have a host of legitimate challenges.

I think u are the one that needs to stfu! He can make 154 so he can call oot anyone in that division. i think i wont. He was calling out floyd and pac and they were welterweights except floyd until recently. Now floyd has no choice to fight sergio next after cotto or else he will be ducking him. that's if sergio can still fight at 154.

I think u are the one that needs to stfu! He can make 154 so he can call oot anyone in that division. What has pirog done? That's what I thought. Sergio has earned the right to do as he pleaseS. Dont you see how you've contradicted yourself in those two posts?

Walking around weight doesn't mean anything. You can tell by looking at him that hes even a small middleweight. Compare his frame to the last 3 MW Champs - Hopkins, Taylor, Pavlik. Much bigger men. 168 would be too much imo. And hes not cherry picking welterweights, that may be the case if he was making them come up to 160. But hes willing to go down to their weights. Why can Floyd-Cotto fight at 154 but neither of them can fight Sergio at 154? Well stated Dirk.