Jorge Arce Knocked Vasques jr, while Donaire went the distance

In terms of styles, Arce is tailor made for Donaire with looping hay makers and an open chin.

So that makes Arce a better fighter than Donaire, since Arce made V. jr corner throw in the towel, i think not. All i'm saying is Donaire is rank in the P4P ranking, Jorge Arce is not, that says that Donaire with his higher status as a fighter he should've won the fight in more dominating fashion(like P4P fashion), V. jr was keeping Donaire respectfully away with a jab. The fact is that Donaire is just hype, that doesn't mean it can't change. Yea you did.... it's clearly there in your first post. Like it's been said before, styles make fights. Look how Donaire fought him and then look at how Arce fought him.... both completely different. If Arce tries to fight him the same way he fought WV2, Donaire's going to try and use that counter left all night long

I'm not trying to bring triangles, circles or ractangles, Arce soppust to be on his way out and still winning fights after he beat Vasquez Jr. so where do you put Donaire in the P4P, i personally think he is not P4P status., just the hype of onather filipino fighter. Yea you did.... it's clearly there in your first post. Like it's been said before, styles make fights. Look how Donaire fought him and then look at how Arce fought him.... both completely different. If Arce tries to fight him the same way he fought WV2, Donaire's going to try and use that counter left all night long

Do not blame it all on Vasquez.It takes 2 to tango. Donaire did not make it a brawl.Does not throw enough punches and wont throw body shots.He does have the power to KO Vasquez Papito Jr. Nonaire just wont do it.He is a counter puncher by nature, not a brawler like Arce.Jorge has the heart and stamina of a warrior.Nonito doesn't plain and simple.It's more to do with styles.Donaire is hesitating to pull the trigger.He wont go to a brawl unless he has the opponent hurt.Arce get's inside and brawl it out.Donaire did hurt the hand that's probably the main reason and Vasquez was covering so....

It doesn't really mean much, had Vazquez opened up more like he did against Arce he would have been laid out by Donaire.

I'm not trying to bring triangles, circles or ractangles, Arce soppust to be on his way out and still winning fights after he beat Vasquez Jr. so where do you put Donaire in the P4P, i personally think he is not P4P status., just the hype of onather filipino fighter. Man... just shup, i not racist, racist is is person who for what ever reason he did like the comment uses that excuse. No racist here buddy, i work with a lot of filipinos and you got some ******* just like would another race, nice try though.... You make a racist statement of "another hyped up filipino fighter" and now you're denying racism. Your full of shat. Thinking Donaire is overrated is fine by me, but you are obviously racially motivated. just admit the truth.

Man... just shup, i not racist, racist is is person who for what ever reason he did like the comment uses that excuse. No racist here buddy, i work with a lot of filipinos and you got some ******* just like would another race, nice try though.... when you point out triangle theories, its GOOD! but when we throw you same thing, its not about triangle! lol! another ALT racist who hate Filipinos!

That fight was an all out brawl... Both fighters were trying to knock eachother out. He was very very defense-conscious against Donaire. Vazquez was trying to survive by only throwing one jab at a time for at least 6 rounds. This isn't just styles making fights. It's respecting your opponents power and not taking chances. Credit to Vazquez though, not knocking him in any way, showed some nads in spots and even looked to give Donaire a slight wobble in the end.

Did not bother to look....haha, that's why i did not commit to a P4P but i was close BoxRec didnt make that clear, huh :lol1:

true...plus donaire is the first person to knock down vazquez jr.. Exactly.. Not saying that Arce couldn't, but Donaire knocked him down with 1 good hand. Honestly, the difference level of Donaire and WV2 was evident. To me it seems like Nonito plays down/up to his competition. Just my opinion

To me Donaire has way to go, I understand that styles makes fights non the less it does show you that donaire is the P4P materail. I don't understand why the Filipino Flash is catching so much heat. This fight was a "testing waters" bout. Arce was able to stop Vasquez because unlike with Nonito he was willing to receive and dish out punishment. Vasquez went to war with arce and slugged it out but with Nonito he showed a defensive style. If anything Nonito showed his poor defense but it could have been an attempt to open Vasquez up. Regardless Nonito displayed an array of styles which was interesting and he managed to pull an easy W with a broken hanhis first time fighting in that weight division and it shows in his disappointment that he needs to improve, and he will. Nonito might not beat Rigo atm but in a few more polishing matches he'll adjust to the weight. What some people fail to understand is beyond the flasy knockouts his show reel has shown, Nonito doesn't only coun with his heavy punches and one punch knockout power. He also has the speed and skill to run circles around most fighters in any division p4p speaking.

I'm not trying to bring triangles, circles or ractangles, Arce soppust to be on his way out and still winning fights after he beat Vasquez Jr. so where do you put Donaire in the P4P, i personally think he is not P4P status., just the hype of onather filipino fighter. when you point out triangle theories, its GOOD! but when we throw you same thing, its not about triangle! lol! another ALT racist who hate Filipinos!

You right, it was the towel stoppage. BoxRec didnt make that clear, huh :lol1:

I don't understand why the Filipino Flash is catching so much heat. This fight was a "testing waters" bout. Arce was able to stop Vasquez because unlike with Nonito he was willing to receive and dish out punishment. Vasquez went to war with arce and slugged it out but with Nonito he showed a defensive style. If anything Nonito showed his poor defense but it could have been an attempt to open Vasquez up. Regardless Nonito displayed an array of styles which was interesting and he managed to pull an easy W with a broken hanhis first time fighting in that weight division and it shows in his disappointment that he needs to improve, and he will. Nonito might not beat Rigo atm but in a few more polishing matches he'll adjust to the weight. What some people fail to understand is beyond the flasy knockouts his show reel has shown, Nonito doesn't only coun with his heavy punches and one punch knockout power. He also has the speed and skill to run circles around most fighters in any division p4p speaking.

You right, it was the towel stoppage.

He aint knock him out though. His pops threw in the towel and Jr was upset about it. true...plus donaire is the first person to knock down vazquez jr..

I'm not trying to bring triangles, circles or ractangles, Arce soppust to be on his way out and still winning fights after he beat Vasquez Jr. so where do you put Donaire in the P4P, i personally think he is not P4P status., just the hype of onather filipino fighter. Actually thats exactly what you did And i disagree. He is a P4P fighter but Arce is just higher then him at #3

So if Donaire is a P4P 5 or 6 and arce knocked out the same fighter (but fresher) what does that say about donaire P4P status. In his fight(Donaire) with Vasques jr he(Donaire) was being kept at bay with a jab, Donaire didn't look that great to me, not to what people make him out to be. so donaire ktfo darchinyan who stopped arce....

He aint knock him out though. His pops threw in the towel and Jr was upset about it.

I'm not trying to bring triangles, circles or ractangles, Arce soppust to be on his way out and still winning fights after he beat Vasquez Jr. so where do you put Donaire in the P4P, i personally think he is not P4P status., just the hype of onather filipino fighter.