Robert Garcia once again was exposed as an average trainer

Was Nacho Beristáin exposed after Kirkland knocked out Angulo as an average trainer? How about Freddie Roach? is he average after Linares lost to Demarco? Neither of those men are average trainers imo. And you know what? neither is Wilfredo Vázquez sr who had a solid game plan for the most part. Garcia is a good trainer because at the end of the day it's all about results and thus far Nonito Donaire and Rios and Mikey Garcia and others in his gym are doing quite well. The Seckbach videos have created certain ideas of Robert and the methods of his training but he is really solid and a good teacher. I think that the problem for Nonito in this fight was that perhaps he was trying a little to hard to please the fans and went in recklessly with a broken hand no less to give a show. Nonito did not respect Vázquez nor his power and simply went through the motions showing off and playing to the crowd while trying to get a knockout while Vázquez was following his own game plan and trying to avoid the knockout and trying to win as well. Nonito needs to relax, listen to his corner, and he be careful because we have yet to see how well his power will carry over to 122 but as always it will be fun to watch cause Nonito is a hell of a fighter.He will be fine though because if he ever fights the Gamboa's or Rigondeauxs of the world you know he will follow a more disciplined and intelligent game plan. Of course you are entitled to your own opinion as that is your right and I applaud you for it because we all have different opinions and perspectives and that fact alone for better or worse is what makes boxing such a unique sport. Just adding my own two cents for whatever it's worth. Have a great day all.

I don't think you can judge from last night cause Nonito was fighting with one hand. What improvements are you looking for from him? I guess he could work behind his jab more and box his way in rather than jumping in and eating leather. I think he would have gotten the KO if he had not hurt his hand.

It's not hating. I don't give a F about trainers. But it's very apparent that Rios and Donaire, his two main pupils have gotten to a plateau as fighters and haven't shown any significant improvement in their last few fights. People claim Roach and Steward are overrated, Buddy McGirt is shi!@# on everytime in here, etc...so why do you get so sensitive when talking about RG, it just how I ser things.

I fail to see how Garcia is an average performer because of Nonito's performance. It's neither of their faults that Vasquez performed at a Clottey-esque performance for most of the fight. Maybe you are upset that Garcia trains Margarito who holds a win over Cotto. If Garcia was an average trainer then there is no way in hell he would have won trainer of the year. True story. :sombrero:

Really watch the arce fight again and tell me arce fought better against Vazquez than donaire. How you get dropped and then was in verge on losing or getting a draw but got lucky in the final round for the stoppage. Donaire at least was clearly beating Vazquez at the card. He didn't get lucky he was applying pressure all night and it paid dividends in the last round.

Rios fights the way he does and I don't think any trainer can change him and give him head movement. The problem is donaire doesn't listen to his corner's advice. Garcia told Donaire in the Vazquez fight to keep his hands up but Donaire proceeded to do a monkey imitation. In Donaire's fight with Montiel before round 2, Garcia repeatedly tells Donaire not to throw punches from far away. The first thing that Donaire does in Round 2 is throw a reaching combination. Rios and Donaire don't seem to listen. I noticed Brian Viloria improved under Robert Garcia when he was trained by him. Robert Garcia may not be the best trainer but I think he's still a good trainer that communicates well in the corner and does well in the gym. As unskilled as Margarito was, I noticed improvement in his boxing skills under Garcia.

Am I the only person who remember that arce was losing against Vazquez before he got stopped. Yet people said arce beat Vazquez better. **** arce also got dropped once in round 4 but yet arce had the better performance against Vazquez Jr. Really watch the arce fight again and tell me arce fought better against Vazquez than donaire. How you get dropped and then was in verge on losing or getting a draw but got lucky in the final round for the stoppage. Donaire at least was clearly beating Vazquez at the card. Arce didn't have a better performance than Donaire but by no means was he losing to Vazquez at time of the stoppage. Not a chance.

Do people even know what exposed means? Exposed, v. - when you don't win by a KO.

Thread starter has taken his hate for margaritos' initial beat down of Cotto to a new level with criticizing his trainer. It's OK buddy. Cotto already got his vengeance. Let it go little man.

Am I the only person who remember that arce was losing against Vazquez before he got stopped. Yet people said arce beat Vazquez better. **** arce also got dropped once in round 4 but yet arce had the better performance against Vazquez Jr. Really watch the arce fight again and tell me arce fought better against Vazquez than donaire. How you get dropped and then was in verge on losing or getting a draw but got lucky in the final round for the stoppage. Donaire at least was clearly beating Vazquez at the card.

He's an average trainer when it comes to instructions during fights but he seems to be a good trainer in the gym. Kinda like Roach. i think that's the problem- neither create thinking fighters, although they certainly have a high level of success.

He's an average trainer when it comes to instructions during fights but he seems to be a good trainer in the gym. Kinda like Roach.

I dont see why there was such a fuss over Robert Garcia anyway? Cos hes on Ellie Sechback all the time?

WTF is people been on lately. Thinking Vasquez is an easy opponent. The dude had 85%+ KO until Arce. And that fight was no one sided, either fighters would have won.

Well Rios and Nonito keep winning. He must be doing something right

He should have told Donaire he was head hunting to much cuz the body was there 4 the taking. yeah donaire landed some strong shots to the body..but yah there just wasn't enough of it.

Crazy. Very rarely do you see such good communication in a corner. Garcia is GREAT. I would want him training me.

He should have told Donaire he was head hunting to much cuz the body was there 4 the taking.

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