Funny how this guy runs his mouth,etc SO if Floyd stops Cotto early can PAC say its becuase he softened him up,etc.
I remember Cotto/Mayweather was talked about when Cotto was still undefeated - but Floyd chose not to fight him.
Anyway, Floyd destroys Cotto - and thats that, but it dont mean sh!t
People are missing the obvious here in regard to a leftover.
You have to consider what happened in between the loss and when the next fighter fought them. Timing is likely more important than the name attached. Just losing doesnt = leftover, Has more to do with not looking good in following fights, coming off losses etc... A damaged fighter at the time.
Floyd said s**t about leftovers, and his hardcore bias fans ran with it. Botton line.....Floyd always talks s**t and people read too far into it at times.
Manny gets more credit for beating Cotto first, but Floyd still gets his due for beating him at 154. Same thing with Ricky Hatton, only vice-versa. Cotto is past his prime-still good, pretty much the same guy he was in 09'.
Cotto at 154 is a B+ fight, been saying it since day one.
Bias Floyd fans will now back track on the leftover talk, while bias Floyd haters and Manny fans will now say that fighting leftovers is bad. It's ridiculous.
Was Frazier leftovers after Foreman beat him??? Was Hearns leftovers after Leonard beat him??? Was Patterson leftovers after Liston beat him???
Get the f**k out of here with the leftover talk, it's bulls**t.
Cotto at 154 is a good fight. Cotto is like where Shane was in 2005. Past his prime-still good. It wasn't even until like 2009-2010 that Shane was past his prime completely, and he still beat Margarito in 09'. Cotto at 154 is better than when Floyd fought Mosley. Yes, Mosley was coming off good wins, but he showed he was past it completely in that fight. And although Floyd gets his due for that fight, he'll get more for beating Cotto at 154.
Also, no matter who Floyd fights, they switch it and spin it into a crappy option after the fight or leading up to the fight.
Against Ortiz, everyone was saying "No way Floyd fights Ortiz, he's way too much of a risk, especially after beating Berto. Floyd will avoid him". It turned out that Manny didn't want to fight Ortiz and chose to fight Marquez at 144, and than Floyd was announced to fight Ortiz. At first, people were surprised and giving Floyd props. Over the course of 2-3 months though, it slowly turned into, Ortiz is a bum, beat a hype-job. Ortiz at 24 is too green, even though he was prime.
Now, before Floyd announced the Cotto, the hardcore Pac fans and even neutral fans were saying "Floyd is going to fight Canelo, a mexican, and Canelo is a joke, too green. Floyd should fight Cotto at 154". Now, it's "Cotto is a leftover, blah, blah, blah". It's ridiculous.
Even when it looked like Floyd would fight Sergio, people were saying "Sergio just gox exposed by Darrek Barker, haha, Floyd cherry picking again". They discredit anything and everything the guy does, it's insane. And it's the same thing with Manny a lot too.
Mayweather-Cotto at 154 and Pac-Bradley are good fights. Cotto is probably alittle bit better than Floyd's choice of Ortiz and his best choice since Hatton in 07' probably. And Bradley is Pac's first legit choice since Cotto in 09' and his best since Marquez in 08'.
This shit is just comedy.
The "pwnage" between you fucking fanboy camps is just funny.
Looks like both have moved on.
I think it's time ya'll did as well.
Why do you all try to switch this around? Its comical. Floyd is the one who said for years that Pacquiao fights his leftovers
THIS RIGHT HERE! Exactamundo!
The point is, FLOYD HIMSELF is the one who kept brinigng up Pac fighting his leftovers to discredit Pac and Flomos always used this as ammunition against Pac! The main Point that's being made right now is that Floyd is a fucking HYPOCRITE! That's all there is to it.
Why are flomos being defensive? Isn't this fact? We're not discussing Pac fighting leftovers or Pac draining opponents (which are both true) but the one and ONLY point that is being made here is that Floyd is a fucking HYPOCRITE. No ifs, ands, or buts.
4 left overs is still more then 1. Besides Floyd really had no choice, who else was he going to fight. Pacquiao doesn't want it, if he fights Canelo he is fighting too green, of he fights Cotto he is fighting a leftover. Floyd is always in a lose lose situation.
I hate all this bullsh!t talk about leftover there is no leftover in boxing may made this up and people jus started to run with it look at boxing back then every one got in the ring with everyone no one said no I dnt want to fight him cuz that's his leftover let's jus stop with this leftover bullsh!t already
I don't have a problem with fighters fighting common opponents. There's only so many boxers on the "elite" level.
However, when you call a fighter out on fighting your "leftovers", then turn around and do the same thing, you NEED to be called out on that sh*t. That's all.
yup.......when you're fighting in the same division(s) that another fighter has fought in then you're bound to fight the same guys. this whole leftover bull**** was started by floyd and flomos. it's just funny now that floyd himself is fighting a pac leftover and everyone is getting sensitive about someone calling him out on his hypocrisy.
Hatton
Oscar
Mosley
Floyd fought all three of those guys before Manny did....So I guess manny is fighting Floyd left overs as well then right?
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Why do you all try to switch this around? Its comical. Floyd is the one who said for years that Pacquiao fights his leftovers.
Funny how this guy runs his mouth,etc SO if Floyd stops Cotto early can PAC say its becuase he softened him up,etc.
I remember Cotto/Mayweather was talked about when Cotto was still undefeated - but Floyd chose not to fight him.
Anyway, Floyd destroys Cotto - and thats that, but it dont mean sh!t
Hatton
Oscar
Mosley
Floyd fought all three of those guys before Manny did....So I guess manny is fighting Floyd left overs as well then right?
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I much dont care about Floyd or Pac, but all this would be irrelevant if Floyd would have taken the 50/50 split what was clearly the fairest and best solution. Both men would have made mega paydays and we would find out who is truly the best. I still think Floyd has never wanted the fight since day 1 and i will be very suprised if it ever happens now.
Ummm did PAC not fought cotto already? Ummm did PAC not win? Ummm in America we call that left over.
So you admit that Marquez just beat Torrecampos leftovers?
The left over part didnt sound so stupid when it was PAC.. Haha now that it's floyd all of a sudden the left over part is stupid? lol... Damm Floyd boiz can't take the heat.
Not a Floyd Boy, or Flomo, or whatever you guys call'em.
I always thought the leftover ***** was stupid.
Funny how this guy runs his mouth,etc SO if Floyd stops Cotto early can PAC say its becuase he softened him up,etc.
I remember Cotto/Mayweather was talked about when Cotto was still undefeated - but Floyd chose not to fight him.
Anyway, Floyd destroys Cotto - and thats that, but it dont mean sh!t
You sound stupid.....
It's funny how Mayweather vs Cotto couldn't happen when Bob was involved.
If you don't see the trend with Bob Arum and his fighters then you are just stupid.
Delahoya vs Mayweather didn't happen until......they both left Bob
Mayweather vs Cotto didn't happen until...they both left Bob
And Mayweather vs Pacquiao isn't gonna happen until.......Pac leaves Bob.
Well Pacquiao, who is Torrecampos leftovers, ducked the fight so Floyd had to fight someone else.
See how stupid this leftover crap sounds?
The biggest fight in boxing history should be Mayweather vs Torrecampo because Torrecampo ko'd Pac I guess.
It's just stupid....
Everbody is a leftover unless they are undefeated. GTFOH
Funny how this guy runs his mouth,etc SO if Floyd stops Cotto early can PAC say its becuase he softened him up,etc.
I remember Cotto/Mayweather was talked about when Cotto was still undefeated - but Floyd chose not to fight him.
Anyway, Floyd destroys Cotto - and thats that, but it dont mean sh!t
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The forum should end all threads about this leftover crap or may vs cotto should have happen in 07-08. Guys we know already STFU already!!! People been fighting common opponents since boxing started so what.
I don't have a problem with fighters fighting common opponents. There's only so many boxers on the "elite" level.
However, when you call a fighter out on fighting your "leftovers", then turn around and do the same thing, you NEED to be called out on that sh*t. That's all.
The forum should end all threads about this leftover crap or may vs cotto should have happen in 07-08. Guys we know already STFU already!!! People been fighting common opponents since boxing started so what.
I found it kind of funny that this is the second common opponent. I just hope we don't hear him mouth off about it in the future about leftovers and shiit.