id rather watch canelo too but that doesnt change the fact that bradley is the better fighter and the harder fight for either pac or floyd rather than canelo.
What's happening here is delusional floyd fans trying to somehow justify and sell themselves and the public that canelo > bradley by using terms like who is harder "stylistically" because pac might be fighting bradley and we must win the message board battle by trying to somehow spin canelo > bradley.
Try using some reading comprehension before you make yourself look like a damb fool. I said who is more dangerous stylistically not who is the better fighter, of course Bradley is at the prime of his career right now with his skill set nearly polished.
yeah but all 40 of those fights with the exception of maybe cintron depending on how you view him, all easy work... needless effort. certainly not the type of fights which would require "doing whatever it takes" to win....
he started out boxing as a pro when he was literally a child
they werent easy work, i can assure you
and in the gym, he's not getting in easy work
I'll give you that coz eversince you spoke highly of Alvarez, even though to me he is highly unproven.
What is funny are the others who have Canelo suddenly as a dangerous threat to Floyd.
Yeah thats the difference. Canelo is no threat to Floyd at all. Hes just can cause Mayweather more problems than Bradley will cause Pacman.
Bradley is not JMM. Bradley is no threat to Pacman no matter what the fanboys tell you.
lol he's had 40 fights and has not lost
he's done whatever it took to win in those fights.
yeah but all 40 of those fights with the exception of maybe cintron depending on how you view him, all easy work... needless effort. certainly not the type of fights which would require "doing whatever it takes" to win....
Bradley... dude does whatever it takes to win... cant say the same for canelo
lol he's had 40 fights and has not lost
he's done whatever it took to win in those fights.
don't get me wrong, i'm a huge bradley fan
but to say that a light punching jr WW is as dangerous as an all out jr MW with punching power is pretty nuts
now, if you are talking "danger" in terms of losing then bradley will pose a different set of problems
but one guy is outright more "Dangerous" by my definition
and it's canelo
dangerous?>
are you kidding? maybe it's just the nature of the question, but this should be a no brainer to you guys.
canelo is a hard punching jr MW. he's basically all offense.
bradley is a better boxer
and against pacquiao he's got a better chance to win
i'd say canelo has a better chance against mayweather
floyd would pick timothy apart
he doesnt ahve enough offense coming back
he's goin got pick canelo off as well (floyd UD,) dont get me wrong, but you guys are going to get a slice of humble pie when you see how big canelo is next to floyd
Bradley for a number of reasons;
1. Bradley is in his prime
2. Alvarez is green
3. Bradley has beaten world class opoonents
4. Alvarez has only fought bums
5. Bradley can box a number of different ways
6. Alvarez is pretty basic.
7. Bradley would be strong at the weight whether he fights Pac or Floyd
8. Alvarez would probably be weight drained if forced to meet a catchweight.
yup pretty much...
Bradley!
Because Bradley would beat Canelo...and he would do it easily!
lets be honest, we all know that Canelo is very overrated and he really don't have much skills...RIGHT NOW, only reason why he is being hyped up is because he is Mexican and he has a huge fan base in Mexico...but with hardcore boxing fans, most would consider him AVERAGE in the ring
Canelo has never impressed me and I think he would lose to most of the top fighters at 154...even old Mosley would probably give him problems
Bradley although he is rated #1 at 140 by most, I think he is still extremely UNDERRATED because people only focus on his "Lack Power" and they are so quick to write him off because he doesn't have "GREAT POWER"
I don't need to ask moorer.
Mosley definitely does not hit harder than Canelo. I'm sorry but a huge Ryan Rhodes couldn't take his power. You're underestimating his power.
Ortiz isn't stronger or a harder puncher either. Just look at the mere frame size.
You don't need frame to be a power puncher though. And, power doesn't mean strength or vice versa.
A smaller Ndou took his power. He couldn't get a smaller Hatton out of there. And, these guys are not World beater mind you.
hes made some step ups. Baldomir KOd...Gomez,KOd...Cintron,KOd. They maynot be high up on the food chain but gor steping up theyre solid guys. And the good thing about it is, he didnt go the distance..he got them outa there, KOd them.
The Gomez KO'd didn't show power. The only fight he showed power was against a shot to pieces Baldomir. Smaller fighters like Hatton didn't show any power, nor against Ndou. But, to be fair to Canelo who KO's Ndou right? But, then again he was much bigger than Ndou and fresher.
At the end of the day he hasn't shown power against the level of comp that Mosley or Ortiz had prior to fighting Floyd.
Lol you think old ww mosley hits harder than big jmw Cinnamon?
Lol
Power is the last thing that goes, ask Michael Moorer.
You can be big all you want, doesn't mean that you got power though.
Yes I do believe that not only Mosley hits harder than Canelo but so does Victor Ortiz. Because, they have proved their power against good solid comp. Canelo has yet to do that.
Now while I agree with damn near everything in this post, I believe that Bradley is a better fight for Manny than Hatton was for Floyd. Bradley looked superb in his 1st fight at 147. Not that Abregu is any Collazo, however he dominated that guy. Hatton got a gift IMO. It clearly showed he didn't belong.
And, that's why they cancel each other out IMO. Who knows how Bradley would look against a Collazo level opponent or how Hatton would look against an Abregu level opponent.
So its a wash, which makes both quite similar IMO.
Hattons resume at 140 was a lot better than Bradley's and to me that shouldn't even be up for debate. Hatton had a buzz around him at the time people where calling for Hatton vs Floyd no one is calling for Pac vs Bradley that's a weak comparison on your part imo.
I also don't understand why you are bringing up the Mosley vs Pac fight he didn't come to win he didn't want to engage he went there with the soul purpose of survival. It is next to impossible to look good against a guy with that mindset.
However shot to **** Mosley as you described him did wobble Floyd which leads me to think Alvarez at least has a slight punchers chance all be it tiny somthing Bradley doesn't have.
Now here's an idea why don't boxing fans stop splitting hairs and voice feelings of rejection towards these two crappy fights then maybe we could get to see the fight that people actually want.
Just because Hatton has one stand out win at 140 while Bradley has none. Doesn't mean that his resume is "a lot" better than Bradley resume. Hatton has the better single win against an aging, inactive, injury prone Kostya. Yes, but overall resume they're not that far part at 140. Hatton had a buzz cuz' of his fan base which Bradley doesn't posses. Doesn't mean that's it's not just as intriguing of a fight.
My reasoning to bring up a shot to pieces Mosley is because it showed what movement can make Pac look. Even frustrate him. The 2nd half of the Cotto fight showed that as well. Where Pac just doesn't like movement. Bradley not only can move but can counter punch better than what Mosley or even Cotto can. Bradley IMO is a more versatile and intelligent fighter than Mosley and Cotto are. But, I agree that Bradley counter punching nor IQ is nowhere near the level of a JMM.
Yes a shot to pieces Mosley wobbled Floyd. The problem is that Canelo doesn't hit as hard a shot to pieces Mosley does. Nor does Canelo hits as hard as Ortiz does. Who's power didn't seem to bother Floyd at all.
You have a great idea. And, I would agree with that idea. But, the problem here is that Pac-Bradley is not a shitty fight at all. It's actually a good fight. Now Floyd-Canelo is a shitty fight. Once again for the first time since 09' Pac out did Floyd in picking the tougher opponent.
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