Cotto has a good chance of beating mayweather!

Cinco De Mayweather is gonna be interesting this time around. He is probably gonna bring Macheato with him as well.

Obviously nobody is gonna outskill mayweather, but i believe he can be outwilled. I dont see mayweather having what it takes to take cotto out of the fight, i.e. cotto is gonna keep coming. Cotto would do a huge disservice to himself to not focus on mayweathers body, especially when mayweather is against the ropes. When he is on the ropes, he is usually more focused on rolling from head shots, and his body is pretty open. Focus on the body, and the head will open up. Cottos jab will also cause problems for mayweather. Cotto would be mayweathers toughest/most credible opponent to date. In no way should we accept 'he is pacs leftovers' bit. This is a sport, in which the best fight the best. If mayweather doesnt fight him, he's scurred. I see this fight playing out like the judah-cotto fight, with cotto slowly waring out mayweather, and still coming. I have a lot of respect for Cotto but to beat Mayweather? Nah, never.

3 years ago most people said cotto said would beat mayweather and that may was ducking him now since then he gets his ass whooped and all the hype fades same thing will happen to pacquiao

O.K. now we're on the same page. In principle, I agree with the above statement, particularly that Cotto has a better shot than Floyd's previous recent opponents. I thought De La Hoya did well with the amount of pressure he attempted to apply (although ultimately much of it wasn't very successful), and I expected more from Mosley coming off the back of the Margarito win. In hindsight considering what happened in the Marquez fight, Hatton did well considering his lack of technique. I don't agree with the specifics. I don't see the evidence that he can be outwilled (if you point me to it I'll gladly reconsider) but of course the problem is that we know he isn't going to be outskilled. So this is what led to my original post/rant. I'll apologise for it 'cause reading it back it comes across as a personal insult aimed at your thread. It was born out of frustration. The frustration comes from this. There is such a gulf in class between Floyd and his opponents that we're tuning in to watch a fight and we end up witnessing an exhibition. I've come to the point personally where I feel that pre fight analysis is almost redundant. The best I can hope for if Cotto does face him is that he'll give a better account of himself than either Marquez or Mosley did. Because watching those fights was a painful experience. Hmmm, im not so much as stating that he will be outwilled, but his will will be tested like never before. Mayweather is a great fighter, and it wouldnt surprise me for him to rise to the occasion. Ultimately, the argument i am trying to make is cotto has the tools to beat mayweather. It will take a perfect gameplan, and mindset, but he can do it. I also think pre fight analysis is redundant in the sense of determining a winner, but mayweather really needs to fight cotto. The fight shoulda taken place in 08. But now, for floyd to just choose canelo is inexcusable imo, the fight needs to happen.

Clottey broke Cotto's will and how will Cotto behave when he's being schooled and embarassed?Low blows like he did Judah will not work because Mayweather's too smart Lol, no he didnt. Only margarito and pac have broken cotto's will. One was likely cheating with bricks in his gloves, and the other one of the greatest offensive fighters that has ever boxed. Yet, cotto is shot and overrated huh?

Obviously nobody is gonna outskill mayweather, but i believe he can be outwilled. I dont see mayweather having what it takes to take cotto out of the fight, i.e. cotto is gonna keep coming. Cotto would do a huge disservice to himself to not focus on mayweathers body, especially when mayweather is against the ropes. When he is on the ropes, he is usually more focused on rolling from head shots, and his body is pretty open. Focus on the body, and the head will open up. Cottos jab will also cause problems for mayweather. Cotto would be mayweathers toughest/most credible opponent to date. In no way should we accept 'he is pacs leftovers' bit. This is a sport, in which the best fight the best. If mayweather doesnt fight him, he's scurred. I see this fight playing out like the judah-cotto fight, with cotto slowly waring out mayweather, and still coming. Clottey broke Cotto's will and how will Cotto behave when he's being schooled and embarassed?Low blows like he did Judah will not work because Mayweather's too smart

Its more a hypothetical question, more or less addresing your previous post (#130 i think). Obviously floyd is the favorite to win, but cotto most certainly has a legitimate shot at beating floyd. A better shot than floyds pervious opponents in recent years. O.K. now we're on the same page. In principle, I agree with the above statement, particularly that Cotto has a better shot than Floyd's previous recent opponents. I thought De La Hoya did well with the amount of pressure he attempted to apply (although ultimately much of it wasn't very successful), and I expected more from Mosley coming off the back of the Margarito win. In hindsight considering what happened in the Marquez fight, Hatton did well considering his lack of technique. I don't agree with the specifics. I don't see the evidence that he can be outwilled (if you point me to it I'll gladly reconsider) but of course the problem is that we know he isn't going to be outskilled. So this is what led to my original post/rant. I'll apologise for it 'cause reading it back it comes across as a personal insult aimed at your thread. It was born out of frustration. The frustration comes from this. There is such a gulf in class between Floyd and his opponents that we're tuning in to watch a fight and we end up witnessing an exhibition. I've come to the point personally where I feel that pre fight analysis is almost redundant. The best I can hope for if Cotto does face him is that he'll give a better account of himself than either Marquez or Mosley did. Because watching those fights was a painful experience.

just so we can keep it real.... Cotto is the obvious underdog here that said he does have some tools that could lead to an upset and before I go there remember these upsets? http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news;_ylt=AhyfnhZBlLL5Gsb5nbXBU0iUxLYF?slug=ycn-8268235 These are simply the high profile upsets in the sport there are many more and Im sure a lot of boxing historians on here who could provide lots of details on those less well known upsets Cotto has the potential equalizer in a great and punishing jab. If he is able to find success with the jab he can build offense off of that in ways that Floyd's other opponents have pretty much been unable to do. Again look at the limited success Oscar had with his jab. When he used it he not only scored well but also dictated the fight and blunted Floyd's offense. Interesting fight and I think a strong possibility to happen.

why are you bringing up your menstrual cycles? I thought you were bringing up points, and I'm shooting them down. What so unique about Cotto that Mayweather hasn't ever seen before? I'll answer that, NOTHING!

Cotto actually stand a fair chance agains Floyd.. In fact, this is a better fight than the fight with Ortiz, which is more like a tune-up.. Floyd is fighting a legitimately bigger opponent... Its not close to the even odds compared to his fight with Mosley, but its still acceptable simply because Cotto is a bigger fighter, and is a pressure fighter with decent boxing skills... When will you guys get it, Pressure fighters are taylor made for Mayweather, he is a counter puncher. Counter punchers love come forward pressure guys, it makes the fight easy. Most Pressure fighters can not fight backing up, usually once you have a pressure fighter backing up,that means hes starting to submit. Cotto will be Ko'ed if he follows Mayweather around that sqared circle.

This version of cotto stands zero chance sorry, I dont even see him having the luck to land anything that might even KO Mayweather, The Cotto of 2007 would have stand a better chance at this version of Mayweather but i would still even pick this version of Mayweather over the 2007 Cotto, He is too slow for Mayweather, Lacks stamina to compete with the top guys, doesnt have the KO power at this stage of his career that might KO the top guys, his jab is too late for the top guys, there is just too many holes in what Cotto does in the ring at the moment, And he doesnt fight well off the ropes, Struggles when or if backed up, Doesnt clinch when in trouble, all the general ring technics are missing with Cotto.

Well let's not forget that you said this. I hope I don't find you flip-flopping after Cotto gets spanked. No brah, i for one will give floyd all the credit in the world for it. I gave him alot of credit for fighting ortiz. But dont get it twisted, cotto is alot better than ortiz. IMo, cotto will be in the fight the whole fight, as floyd doesnt have the power to put his lights out. Yes he has power, but he doesnt throw it in volume, which is what puts cotto in trouble. Cotto will still be in the fight, throwing hard shots, which does not bode well for floyd.

If this fight ever got made, I would go for Cotto. But he would probably lose. IMHO, in Floyd/Ortiz Floyd's defense was not as fluid as before. Cotto's experience may be enough to expose it but not so much to win the fight.

Four words: No he can not.

Floyd has already fought people with better chins, power, and more experience against elite world class opposition. Oscar and Mosley Before you go through another menstrual cycle, why dont you go look at my first post, and see if I dissed any of those fights (Mosley, and Oscar)... You're argument is all over the place.. You cant stick to one subject..lol..

Ortiz was already bigger than Mayweather by 14 pounds on fight night. Size doesn't mean much unless its ridiculous and tough to overcome. Mayweather has beat down bigger men than Cotto. Mayweather has legendary boxing skills and is good at applying pressure if he wants to. Its not just the size, its his chin, its WW power, experience that Cotto has. And the fact that Cotto had been involved in great fights against the top WW's (but not much at JMW).. In other words he is a legitimate bigger opponent not just in terms of size, but in everything else. What did Ortiz do in WW other than fighting a paper champ to earn a shot against Floyd.. Heck, what did he do in LWW...nothing...

Cotto's last two fights were against Mayorga and Margarito. Which means Cotto is past it? All the slightly credible opponents for Cotto to fight at JMW and they landed on Mayorga and Margarito. Damn, Cotto was past it against Manny. Remember Clottey was peppering Cotto before the Pacquaio fight. The simple question is, Do you believe Miguel can compete with Floyd? No, no and hell no. But if the fight does happen, it is a farce and Cotto will get stopped. Cotto actually stand a fair chance agains Floyd.. In fact, this is a better fight than the fight with Ortiz, which is more like a tune-up.. Floyd is fighting a legitimately bigger opponent... Its not close to the even odds compared to his fight with Mosley, but its still acceptable simply because Cotto is a bigger fighter, and is a pressure fighter with decent boxing skills...

Cotto's last two fights were against Mayorga and Margarito. Which means Cotto is past it? All the slightly credible opponents for Cotto to fight at JMW and they landed on Mayorga and Margarito. Damn, Cotto was past it against Manny. Remember Clottey was peppering Cotto before the Pacquaio fight. The simple question is, Do you believe Miguel can compete with Floyd? No, no and hell no. But if the fight does happen, it is a farce and Cotto will get stopped.

Obviously nobody is gonna outskill mayweather, but i believe he can be outwilled. I dont see mayweather having what it takes to take cotto out of the fight, i.e. cotto is gonna keep coming. Cotto would do a huge disservice to himself to not focus on mayweathers body, especially when mayweather is against the ropes. When he is on the ropes, he is usually more focused on rolling from head shots, and his body is pretty open. Focus on the body, and the head will open up. Cottos jab will also cause problems for mayweather. Cotto would be mayweathers toughest/most credible opponent to date. In no way should we accept 'he is pacs leftovers' bit. This is a sport, in which the best fight the best. If mayweather doesnt fight him, he's scurred. I see this fight playing out like the judah-cotto fight, with cotto slowly waring out mayweather, and still coming. Well let's not forget that you said this. I hope I don't find you flip-flopping after Cotto gets spanked.

Wow you talk as if May had knock out power Similar to Mike Tyson GTHO!! If it was just one punch ko power it would not be as bad for Cotto, but to get hit over and over again is whats dangerous. Mayweather can hit hard if he wants to, just ask Gotti,Hatton,Diego,Ortiz,Moesly, and Judah. They were all beat into submission by Mayweather. Some one with out power is not capable of doing that. Mayweather is very acurate, and he throws punches that snap the brain back. Very jolting shots, Cotto will be beat into submission again against Mayweather. Margarita had Cotto ready to quit again in the rematch, had they not stopped the fight.