If Andre Berto avenges his only career defeat against Victor Ortiz on February 11th, could he be the one person no one is talking about as an opponent for Floyd Mayweather???
Yes, Berto lost to Ortiz, but he didn't look terrible. It was a tough fight, showed us Ortiz was no joke, and was a FOTY winner. Andre Berto is 28-1 (22 KO's), former WBC and IBF Wleterweight champ. Even in the Fall of 2010, Arum put false hope out there that Andre Berto could fight Manny Pacquiao, but instead Manny chose to fight Shane Mosley, who'd just been dominated by Floyd. That left the door open for Berto to give Ortiz a title shot at 147. Ortiz was a decent underdog and most picked Berto to win, though Ortiz pulled off a stunning win, which launched him into the spot as the nest best WW besides Floyd and Manny, and into a highly anticipated Mayweather showdown.
Berto came back and beat a decent guy in Zaveck to win the IBF title and is now on amission to avenge his only loss against Ortiz.
Given that Lou Dibella already said Berto could be ready for May or June if he beats Ortiz, could Andre Berto be a dark horse to fight Mayweather on May 5th???
Also, Floyd was apparently at Berto-Ortiz I scouting Andre Berto and was rumored to want Andre Berto as his first fight back.
i seriously doubt berto can beat ortiz. he looked pretty regular against zaveck. easy to hit, and grasping for air between rounds. it will be tough to outwork ortiz if he brings the same pressure into the ring. berto will have his 6 usual rounds of TKO chance, but if it goes full 12 i expect ortiz win by decision.
and i don't think berto would pose a serious threat to mayweather considering zaveck had 41% hit rate on him, and floyd's accuracy & defense are way superior.
i don't know why people want to see that fight at all. plus berto is with dibella, and is not a ppv draw either.
canelo, guerrero, berto are all crap fights for floyd at this point. pac @ 147 , or cotto/martinez @154.
What's so bad about Ortiz vs. Mayweather if he beats Berto again? Who knows what would have happened, that fight ended in stupidity.
I just don't see it being made again after Mayweather was clearly beating Ortiz, and after Victor tried to break Floyd's nose, than went to sleep staring at Cortez when they were motioned together.
If Ortiz beats Berto and someone like Khan, Maidana-Alexander winner, than I wouldn't mind a rematch or a fight with Manny for Victor.
Besides round 6 or w/e round that was he looked absolutely terrible. Heck he looked terrible in that round when he tried to go for the kill leaving himself so open and getting hit by the same punch twice lol.
Yes, but it's no tlike Ortiz out classed him or anything, or looked far superior.
I really do hope Andre Berto beats Ortiz, even though I have absolutely no emotion invested in the fight. If Ortiz wins, he won't be fighting Floyd again no matter what, unless he were to go out and beat Khan, Maidana, Alexander, etc. And I don't see that happening.
If Berto beats Ortiz convincingly in the rematch, how can anyone say he's not a legit fight for Mayweather or Pacquiao???????
And if Ortiz beats Berto again, than he is legit too for either of them.
But, I was just saying that Berto didn't look god awful or anything. Yes, Berto gassed, hopefully he's got that fixed, or it will be another long 2nd half of the fight against Ortiz once again. If Berto gasses after the first few rounds again, he needs to KO him early or he will lose. If he has his conditioning in tip top shape, hopefully he does, than I think he'll beat him. I'd like to see him box more, because when he was just boxing Ortiz, he was winning. But, he started trading and Ortiz took over, and won the fight.
If Andre Berto avenges his only career defeat against Victor Ortiz on February 11th, could he be the one person no one is talking about as an opponent for Floyd Mayweather???
Yes, Berto lost to Ortiz, but he didn't look terrible. It was a tough fight, showed us Ortiz was no joke, and was a FOTY winner. Andre Berto is 28-1 (22 KO's), former WBC and IBF Wleterweight champ. Even in the Fall of 2010, Arum put false hope out there that Andre Berto could fight Manny Pacquiao, but instead Manny chose to fight Shane Mosley, who'd just been dominated by Floyd. That left the door open for Berto to give Ortiz a title shot at 147. Ortiz was a decent underdog and most picked Berto to win, though Ortiz pulled off a stunning win, which launched him into the spot as the nest best WW besides Floyd and Manny, and into a highly anticipated Mayweather showdown.
Berto came back and beat a decent guy in Zaveck to win the IBF title and is now on amission to avenge his only loss against Ortiz.
Given that Lou Dibella already said Berto could be ready for May or June if he beats Ortiz, could Andre Berto be a dark horse to fight Mayweather on May 5th???
Also, Floyd was apparently at Berto-Ortiz I scouting Andre Berto and was rumored to want Andre Berto as his first fight back.
Besides round 6 or w/e round that was he looked absolutely terrible. Heck he looked terrible in that round when he tried to go for the kill leaving himself so open and getting hit by the same punch twice lol.
How do you know 154 is fair enough to be a A fight??
Manny is supposed to be a vampire cuz he made Oscar go down to from 154 to 147??
Oscar had been above WW for a hundred years and even had fights at MW. Even in his prime he was huge at WW. Meanwhile Sergio hasn't been at MW that long an weighs in at 158 or even 157 for every single fight. He can definetly make 154 without problem. He didn't move up because of weight issues, he moved up for bigger fights. Oscar also looked horrible the fight before at 150 where many said he got hit by Forbes more than anyone in his whole career. It's night & day if you're being fair.
Mayweather will be hoping Berto wins
No ****...I do too...I dont mind cotto so Floyd can at least erase those cotto demons, and get his name on his resume where ten yrs from now, we can say he fought em...but if not that fight, Berto is the best Option...Ortiz can beat a handful of guys, and a rematch with Floyd already promotes itself, so they can fight down the line in 2013 when he is more mature...that fight will be war for Floyd
Mayweather vs. Martinez at 154: AMayweather vs. Martinez at 152: B
Mayweather vs. Martinez at 150: C+/B-
Mayweather vs. Alvarez at 154: C+/B-
Mayweather vs. Cotto at 154: B+
Mayweather vs. Cotto at 150: C
Mayweather vs. Cotto at 147: C-
Mayweather vs. Berto at 147 (if Berto beats Ortiz): B/B+
Same goes for Pacquiao
Pacquiao vs. Peterson at 144-147: C
Pacquiao vs. Marquez at 144: C
Pacquiao vs. Bradley at 144-147: A-
Besides Floyd, Pacquiao-Bradley is Pac's best option, but god knows he won't take that fight yet.
How do you know 154 is fair enough to be a A fight??
Manny is supposed to be a vampire cuz he made Oscar go down to from 154 to 147??
Mayweather vs. Martinez at 154: A
Mayweather vs. Martinez at 152: B
Mayweather vs. Martinez at 150: C+/B-
Mayweather vs. Alvarez at 154: C+/B-
Mayweather vs. Cotto at 154: B+
Mayweather vs. Cotto at 150: C
Mayweather vs. Cotto at 147: C-
Mayweather vs. Berto at 147 (if Berto beats Ortiz): B/B+
Same goes for Pacquiao
Pacquiao vs. Peterson at 144-147: C
Pacquiao vs. Marquez at 144: C
Pacquiao vs. Bradley at 144-147: A-
Besides Floyd, Pacquiao-Bradley is Pac's best option, but god knows he won't take that fight yet.
i wouldnt say floyd vs martinez at 150, is equal to Floyd vs Canelo at 154...no no no bro..LMAO...Martinez said he can make 150, so that fight is the best option to me...just to see them in the ring together...and alvaraz is a short tubby guy...Martinez arms are longer than Mosley and he big and fast too...thats the best fight no matter WHAT weight in my oppinion...I dont care...I just wanna see them in the ring together period
Mayweather vs. Martinez at 154: A
Mayweather vs. Martinez at 152: B
Mayweather vs. Martinez at 150: C+/B-
Mayweather vs. Alvarez at 154: C+/B-
Mayweather vs. Cotto at 154: B+
Mayweather vs. Cotto at 150: C
Mayweather vs. Cotto at 147: C-
Mayweather vs. Berto at 147 (if Berto beats Ortiz): B/B+
Same goes for Pacquiao
Pacquiao vs. Peterson at 144-147: C
Pacquiao vs. Marquez at 144: C
Pacquiao vs. Bradley at 144-147: A-
Besides Floyd, Pacquiao-Bradley is Pac's best option, but god knows he won't take that fight yet.
I was thinking this but I think may 5th comes to soon for him. that said I wouldn't mind Berto or Ortiz against Mayweather on may 5th at all.
I don't Mayweather-Ortiz II would EVER happen, unless Ortiz goes on a tear and beats Berto and than Khan or something.
I actually am picking Berto to beat Ortiz in the 2nd fight, and convincingly. I just think Andre is on a mission.
May 5th would be about 3 months, so he'd have to get right back into training a month after the Ortiz fight, which will probably be a tough fight, unless he KO'd Ortiz early or something. People seem to forget that Andre was a second or two away from the ref stopping the fight in the 6th when he had Ortiz badly hurt. Than, of course, Victor came out of nowhere and floored Andre. But, he was this close to a TKO6 win over Ortiz and a showdown with Mayweather.
If Berto beats Ortiz and without controversy, I'd have no problem with Mayweather-Berto as a back up plan. It's a solid B/B+ fight to me. Better than Alvarez RIGHT NOW, because Alvarez hasn't earned a Floyd fight at all. Canelo should beat Cotto or Kirkland first.
Mayweather-Berto beats the s**t out of Pac-Cotto II at 147, Pac-Peterson, and Pac-Marquez IV.
It would also be another young and prime fighter, coming off wins, which is something Pacquiao still has yet to do in the last 6-7 years.