Pac wants 50/50 revenue from what I can gather , and Arum takes the most of his share , Floyd will not give Pac 1/2 of his business dealings on the back end , Floyd makes more money because he is in a much better business situation because of his ingenuity starting with leaving Arum and promoting himself , Pac has made his own choices in business and he should get paid for that , not what Floyd has done .
If its revenue it cannot happen !
If its just the purse , then Floyd should accept 50/50 !
Remember, Mayweather is a promoter as well as a fighter, Mayweather is putting in own money up front to help pay for the promotion-Manny isn't. If Mayweather puts up 10 million into the pot to get this running what is Manny going to do. Nothing. Manny's trying to get paid like he's a promoter without the risk his own money. Actually, when you look at, It's really ballsy of Manny to even suggest,50/50 revenue. GBP isn't a charity, Mayweather pays them well. Mayweather is the one who's going to be paying for them commercials you'll be seeing during halftime. Understand.
Stupidist post i ever read.....lol
Floyd and Arum may have struck some sort of deal where Arum pays him to take the fall for the fight not happening.
LMAO, crazy thought but hell i wouldnt be surprised!
give it up Flomos
why would a guy who had 3000 unsold tickets get more? because of his ability to keep people away from the fight?
Don't get it twisted around...Floyd fight ticket come with a free room, a free buffet for two, and a free limo ride. PAC ticket come with nothing.
70/30 for Floyd.
No matter how you flomos twist things up, there's no denying fraud does not really want to fight at all!
i've given up on this happening long time ago...just want to spite you flomos by commenting here...:lol1:
You guys dont know what your talking about concerning revenue , Pac is in a bad position because of his own business decisions prior to this fight , Floyds are much better because of his decisions , that precursor is irrelevant to the fight now , its always like that in big fights , like , you get the UK TV rights I get the Nth American etc etc , its never been any different , you guys dont understand exactly what Pac is asking for , its actually equivalent to ask 70/30 for the purse !
Let's get this straight. Floyd is locked into May 5th and must fight at the MGM. Meaning, Floyd can't change his date nor where he is fighting while Manny has the flexibility to fight later on that month or the next. This giving the option to fight in this bigger stadium and therefore able to generate more money for the event. Again, Floyd is not in a good position to do so ... meaning because of Floyd, if they have to fight on May 5th, they will lose the opportunity to make more money .... Floyd is the reason why they will lose that money!
So it really depends on how you look at it, right?
All I know is that Floyd fans were Biatching and didn't care if more money was going to be generated if the fight took place later. Meaning they just wanted to see the fight. I say no problem to that BUT now don't come back and start this Floyd deserves more money BS!!!
Remember, Mayweather is a promoter as well as a fighter, Mayweather is putting in own money up front to help pay for the promotion-Manny isn't. If Mayweather puts up 10 million into the pot to get this running what is Manny going to do. Nothing. Manny's trying to get paid like he's a promoter without the risk his own money. Actually, when you look at, It's really ballsy of Manny to even suggest,50/50 revenue. GBP isn't a charity, Mayweather pays them well. Mayweather is the one who's going to be paying for them commercials you'll be seeing during halftime. Understand.
Think of the 50/50 as the split between Floyd and Arum... Out of Arum's 50%, he will pay Manny his guaranteed purse plus whatever % on the PPV upside.
Floyd will pay GBP their cut and he'll keep everything else.
Stop saying Manny isn't putting up anything, he has a promoter which will put up their share of the promotional expense.
Whether Pacquaio said he will take less or not. It doesn't matter.
It's 50-50. Just accept 50-50, it's the logical thing.
Both fighters are the cash cows of the sport and head and sholders above everyone else.
50-50 on everything is fair and logical.
What happened to Manny accepting less than Floyd like he said he would?
At the end of the day i'm sure Floyd's guarantee is higher than Pac's. Therefore even with a 50/50 split on revenue, Floyd will be making more money than Pac.
Do u want to see this fight or are you only concerned with Floyd getting his way?
The revenue is being guaranteed by both fighters promoters. The revenue should be split down the middle. Anyone requesting more than 50% doesnt want to fight. Before you claim that Pac never wanted the fight, dont forget that Floyd himself stated in his email that Pac said "50/50 and I'll fight you anytime"
What happened to Manny accepting less than Floyd like he said he would?
1.There is no purse in a fight like this, it's a revenue based fight. Arums cut wil come from mannys half, that doesn't effect Floyd.
2.may is not putting up mannys money like he does with his other opponents. So don't carry on like floyd is taking all the rîsk, he is not financing the whole fight. Arum will pay for half of any up front costs as he pays it for mannys fights.
This isn't a standard find an opponent, pay them and keep the rest fight for either guy. Until both guys except that it won't get done.
Excellent points.
:thinking: I wasn't aware that there was anything wrong with the NY Times.
And, even if there is or the NY Times knows their boxing or not is irrelevant. As long as the writer/journalist who's writing the piece knows about the sport. Like ESPN I wouldn't say ESPN knows their boxing, and ESPN has a couple of employees who give their opinion about the sport and don't really follow the sport. But, ESPN also has a few employees who do follow the sport. Is all about who's doing the reporting basically. But, anyways all this is irrelevant to the subject in hand.
I apologize, i misunderstood your response. the article is sort of related to the thread topic. It represents the financial aspect of a Floyd fight. I doubt this fight would be structured this way though.
1.There is no purse in a fight like this, it's a revenue based fight. Arums cut wil come from mannys half, that doesn't effect Floyd.
2.may is not putting up mannys money like he does with his other opponents. So don't carry on like floyd is taking all the rîsk, he is not financing the whole fight. Arum will pay for half of any up front costs as he pays it for mannys fights.
This isn't a standard find an opponent, pay them and keep the rest fight for either guy. Until both guys except that it won't get done.
Pac wants 50/50 revenue from what I can gather , and Arum takes the most of his share , Floyd will not give Pac 1/2 of his business dealings on the back end , Floyd makes more money because he is in a much better business situation because of his ingenuity starting with leaving Arum and promoting himself , Pac has made his own choices in business and he should get paid for that , not what Floyd has done .
If its revenue it cannot happen !
If its just the purse , then Floyd should accept 50/50 !
It's too late...the real boxing fans out here are going to start a national movement to have their next fights boycotted...they'll be broke unless they fight each other....let's do this thing!!!! :fing02:
But, but, but it is the NY Times, I mean they gotta know their boxing right? Hahahaha
:thinking: I wasn't aware that there was anything wrong with the NY Times.
And, even if there is or the NY Times knows their boxing or not is irrelevant. As long as the writer/journalist who's writing the piece knows about the sport. Like ESPN I wouldn't say ESPN knows their boxing, and ESPN has a couple of employees who give their opinion about the sport and don't really follow the sport. But, ESPN also has a few employees who do follow the sport. Is all about who's doing the reporting basically. But, anyways all this is irrelevant to the subject in hand.
I'm not saying I agree with the TS but it kind of reminds me of this article I read a while back.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/17/sports/floyd-mayweather-jr-welterweight-with-heavyweight-financial-clout.html?_r=2&hp
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I'm not saying I agree with the TS but it kind of reminds me of this article I read a while back.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/17/sports/floyd-mayweather-jr-welterweight-with-heavyweight-financial-clout.html?_r=2&hp
Thank you , because that explains exactly why Floyd cannot agree to 50/50 revenue split , its like his business model is a sack of gold before the fight starts and Pac has a sack of spuds , and wants half of his gold ,,,,
IT CANT HAPPEN .
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I'm not saying I agree with the TS but it kind of reminds me of this article I read a while back.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/17/sports/floyd-mayweather-jr-welterweight-with-heavyweight-financial-clout.html?_r=2&hp