So many sources, yet we still haven't got a clue.
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if it was a cherrypick when pac fought him 2 years ago, what is it now?
if Cotto was a cherry pick then what would you call Margarito and Mosley?
only beef I had with the fight was the Catchweight and Clottey not getting immediate rematch for the robbery
for the very same reason u guys shiit on pac. when pac fought mosley because he was more well known and will generate more money like u put it u guys shiit on him. so why is it ok for floyd to do it?? and since u guys always like to bring up the left over, if floyd was to fight cotto he would be going against his own words and what u guys stand by. but since its floyd its ok. LOL.
I don't bring up the leftovers stuff but if floyd fights coto and contradicts himself well that makes him a greedy SOB and a hypocrite if he fought Cotto INSTEAD of Manny. I think we can agree thats not the case. If they fight its because manny refused to.
The Mosley fight wasn't the most lucrative out there, the floyd fight was. Manny refused the floyd fight to take a less lucrative one, same as he is doing now. Manny is pulling a Tim Bradley.
STraight up, I still think Manny will make Bob make fight.
please explain to me how cotto and marg was weight drain?? cotto fought clottet at 146 was he weight drain there too? cause i sure didnt see or hear anyone complain about that. and marg was weight drain in the pac fight?? didnt cotto fought marg at 153? 3lbs from where pac fought him yet he was weight drain in the pac fight but not the cotto fight?? the only 1 i will agree is oscar because oscar was the only one that didnt look "normal" but was that pac's fault???
I gave you names like you asked.
Team pac asked for weight clauses in those fights.
Martinez has March fight but that said, Let me ask you and pacsmash this.
If manny doesn't take fight, if the best fight can't be made, isn't it fai to make the most lucrative fight?
Cotto and Canelo are not as good fights as Martinez obviously, but why would you ask Floyd to not make as much as possible, especially since he's gotta go to the pokey in June.
See I understand how boxing works.
No matter what fight that I want to see, It's a business first.
With that said......
Mayweather and Pacquaio both get 20million guarantees each fight.
So promoters have to match them with guys that can sell tickets and PPV's.
That list is very short.
Cotto
Alvarez (mexicans)
Ortiz
Khan (UK)
Margarito
Mosley
Marquez
And maybe Chavez jr.
Thats why Floyd would never fight guerrero.
So yes Floyd should fight Cotto if no Pac.
Pac and Arum were talking on "On the Ropes Boxing Radio". Pac said that he doesnt want to fight Floyd because it will be embarrassing for him. That the money would be nice, but he doesnt care about his fans or anything else and that they are all stupid ****s with no common sense anyway and they would buy a box of **** if he told them it was good. Arum then pulled his pants down and leaned toward Pac.
The show went silent after that.
Dont ask me for a link, I dont need one. Its true. Just believe me.
So would I, but for some reason Martinez is not on his radar.
If pac would just step up........
Martinez has March fight but that said, Let me ask you and pacsmash this.
If manny doesn't take fight, if the best fight can't be made, isn't it fai to make the most lucrative fight?
Cotto and Canelo are not as good fights as Martinez obviously, but why would you ask Floyd to not make as much as possible, especially since he's gotta go to the pokey in June.
floyd can fight anyone he wants, its not up to me, if it is i would like to see him take on martinez at 154. im not a fan of floyd but anyone besides pac or martinez wont be a threat to floyd, and this is me giving floyd his props.
So would I, but for some reason Martinez is not on his radar.
If pac would just step up........
why wouldnt bradley be a good opponent for pac?? u guys always cry that pac never fight a young prime fighter, so your saying bradley is not young nor is in his prime?? bradley is also undefeated. im suprise now how things changed...... who's those guys that pac weight drain can u name all of them??
Why do you keep saying you guys?
I am not those people.
Go and find them and tell that crap to them.
I am not them.
Fighters Pac weight drained.
1) Cotto
2)Margarito
3) Delahoya
How do you know what fans want?
People that I know don't want the Bradley fight......... because BRADLEY DUCKED KHAN AND DOESN"T DESERVE IT.
A small truth the pac diehards conveinently forget!
the new hype for cotto is.... cotto has improved, he has a new trianer, his movement and footwork looks amazing now, its a new cotto..... based off the marg fight HAHAHA...
No smart guy..........Cotto is better than Guerrero thats why.
Ok so who should Floyd fight.
the new hype for cotto is.... cotto has improved, he has a new trianer, his movement and footwork looks amazing now, its a new cotto..... based off the marg fight HAHAHA...
THere is only one reason why Cotto is even being discussed. What's up with your boy Manny? WHy doesn't he just make Bob sign for the fight like he made Bob pay him extra dough before the Hatton fight?
exactly, i know why floyd fans dont want Manny to fight Bradley. They will say hes not a draw (but who cares, how does that affect the fight), and he ducked Khan (which he did, but again so what).
The reason they dont want him to fight Bradley is so they can hold it over Manny's head that he never beat an undefeated fighter. We all know Bradley is better than Ortiz, stop frontin.
Its so transparent.
How do you know what fans want?
People that I know don't want the Bradley fight......... because BRADLEY DUCKED KHAN AND DOESN"T DESERVE IT.
hes just saying that to save his face.. im also wondering why he would pick ortiz than bradley, a young undefeated fighter that u guys always cry about how pac never fight young guys... but i know why he went with ortiz, so if floyd picks cotto he can use that as an excuse that pac fought ortiz which is a floyd left over so its ok for floyd to fight cotto, a pac left over.
You don't know $hit.........
I am my own man and don't follow people. What I say, I mean.
Bradley ducked Khan and doesn't deserve a fight with either May or Pac.
Beating Alexander and peterson doesn't get you a big fight like that.
If Bradley would have fought and beat khan, then maybe.
And dude i don't get into all that fighting me leftovers $hit.
Was duran a Leonard leftover when he fought hearns?
Was duran a Hearns leftover when he fought Hagler?
Was leonard a duran leftover when hearns fought him?
It's just stupid to me.
Most fighters have losses so why would I call them leftovers?
The only thing I don't like about Pacquiao, is that he weight drains these guys.
lol as a fan of a fighter i would want him to fight the best but thats just me.... everyone has their own opinion just dont let me catch u saying pac always fight old washed up fighters then when u clearly picked ortiz over a young prime undefeated bradley.
BRO!!!!!!!!
Peterson beat Ortiz (you know he did), and Bradley beat Peterson, but since Ortiz is the bigger draw thats the better fight. Logic.
They will use that same logic when Floyd fights Cotto. "Its a good fight because Cotto is the bigger draw" ROFL.
hes just saying that to save his face.. im also wondering why he would pick ortiz than bradley, a young undefeated fighter that u guys always cry about how pac never fight young guys... but i know why he went with ortiz, so if floyd picks cotto he can use that as an excuse that pac fought ortiz which is a floyd left over so its ok for floyd to fight cotto, a pac left over.
exactly, i know why floyd fans dont want Manny to fight Bradley. They will say hes not a draw (but who cares, how does that affect the fight), and he ducked Khan (which he did, but again so what).
The reason they dont want him to fight Bradley is so they can hold it over Manny's head that he never beat an undefeated fighter. We all know Bradley is better than Ortiz, stop frontin.
Its so transparent.
This doesnt even make sense.
As a fan of the sport you rather he fight Ortiz because he is the bigger draw?
Tim Bradley the better fighter isnt a draw, but you would rather Manny fight Ortiz cause hes the bigger draw. Youre a great fan bro.
I don't need you to tell me how to be a fan of a sport I have been watching since I was a kid.
Yes Ortiz would sell PPV's and thats what May and Pac look for in their opponents.
Plus ortiz would be a better fight IMHO than the other 4 names.
I have seen Marquez vs Pac enough.
Don't want to see Pac vs Cotto 2
Bradley ducked khan and I have no respect for him.
Peterson is not a draw and Ortiz beat him. I scored that fight for Ortiz.
quoted for future reference.. watch late 2012 or early 2013 if pac does fight any other guy that floyd has fought i'll see what u have to say, i'll come back and bump this LOL!!
The thing is.........fight them coming off a good win and don't weight drain them.
Thats all i ask.
Dude don't put words in my mouth.
i'm no flomo.
If Pacquiao ducks floyd then he's coward.
As far as if Pacquiao was to fight Ortiz next.......why not.
Ortiz makes sense because the public knows him.
I'd rather Pac fought Ortiz than the other 4 names on his list.
He is a bigger draw.
This doesnt even make sense.
As a fan of the sport you rather he fight Ortiz because he is the bigger draw?
Tim Bradley the better fighter isnt a draw, but you would rather Manny fight Ortiz cause hes the bigger draw. Youre a great fan bro.
Dude don't put words in my mouth.
i'm no flomo.
If Pacquiao ducks floyd then he's coward.
As far as if Pacquiao was to fight Ortiz next.......why not.
Ortiz makes sense because the public knows him.
I'd rather Pac fought Ortiz than the other 4 names on his list.
He is a bigger draw.
The term is getting thrown around to unnecessary people ever since pretty much everybody realised that Bob Arum and Co are holding up the fight.
Now, even people who don't like Mayweather are being called Flomo's for calling out Arum and co on their bullsh*t.
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