i mean why is he so hesitant to just tell arum that he calls the shots, after all he is the cash cow and the one who puts asses in the seats? is it cause arum created him (in the terms of building his career) and probably thinks arum has enough power to destroy it if he steps out of line? why?
every pacquiao supporter is telling floyd to make it happen, that manny has already said he is willing to. what you guys seem to ignore is that bob arum is holding this fight back w/ ridiculous excuses like a plastic surgeon said manny's cut is too delicate it won't be able to properly heal until april. or that a 40,000 seat stadium needs to be build for this fight.
both manny and floyd are down to fight. they're fighters, that's what they do. but it's on manny's side that is holding this fight up, his promoter is the one that doesn't want this fight.
so why is it that manny is being quiet when arum talks? out of respect? does manny just care about getting the paychecks arum keeps making for him? or is he really not that interested in floyd because he knows there is a great chance of him losing?
just saw this article btw, not trying to bash, just thought i'd plug it in since i'm already making a post:
http://www.askmen.com/sports/fanatic_250/294_manny-pacquiao-is-he-a-puppet-in-boxing-politics.html
Manny is reluctant to step up because of what Marquez did to him. People have to understand that they chose Marquez at 147 for the sole purpose of koing him quick & easy & trying to do it better than Floyd did.
Instead what transpired was the smaller, weaker, slower Marquez boxing Pacman's ears of & viewed as the victor of the fight by 80% of boxing with the other 10% being Pactards & 10% stupid people in general.
Now since his team just figured that he really can't box that well & should only be matched with stationary fighters that employ no movement, Floyd is a no go. That's why they'll keep Pacman far away from Floyd, he's bigger, faster & stronger than Marquez. Also he's the superb counter puncher.
But team Pacman isn't too worried. There are still some that are going to blame Floyd for his teams cowardice no matter what.
1) Pac just told Arum (and the world) thru the media less than 24 hours ago that he unequivocally wants floyd next.
2) After the Marquez fight he held a press conference in the Philippines saying he wanted floyd next.
3) He sent Koncz all the way to mayweathers fukkin gym to set up a fight.
What more do you possibly want?
Al haymon is infinitely more to blame than Bob Arum. Al haymon is the one who controls all his fighters like puppets and refuses to talk to the media. How come everyone on Team Pac's side is saying we want floyd but everyone on floyd's side is saying Guerrerro, Cotto, Alvarez etc?
Pac already made his thoughts clearly known on this issue.
Floyd himself hasn't said sh*t and hes letting ellerbe and oscar and schaefer to do his talking for him.
TS just got hattoned
floyd isnt anybodys puppet, say what you want about him but hes his own man. unlike manny, we all know arum has complete control over him. im acctually starting to think arum has one of his kids chained up in a basement somewhere bcuz its just ridiculous how manny is incapabale of making a single decision for himself.
manny says he will tell arum, thats good. but until he convinces arum it doesnt mean ****. neither does press conferences or sending ppl who dont have the influence to make the fight in the first place. he has to tell arum "make this god damn fight you dirty, corrupt old man". he could easily force arums hand if he just tried, but he hasnt, thats what we want and i dont think its out of line for him to do something that will acctually get the fight made instead of just posturing for the media.
mayweather is mentioning other names bcuz arum has made it clear he wont let pacquiao fight floyd. the ball was in team pacquiaos court and well.. they dropped the ball. its funny how in another post you say pacquiao shouldnt have to fight in may "to adjust to some convivts schedule", blatantly ducking a fight with floyd, but when floyd then moves on and looks for other oponents bcuz pac refused to fight him hes doing something wrong.
floyd also made it clear several times he wants pacquiao, and unlike pacquiao hes acctually shown it through action as well. the al haymon excuse is lame. theres no reason to think haymon is stopping the fight. give me a single thing that proves haymon is involved in sabotaging the fight, you cant bcuz its not there. you are just going arum style and looking for any excuse you can find, haymons name took some abuse in recent months so you just throw it out there.. pathetic man.. pathetic..
i mean why is he so hesitant to just tell arum that he calls the shots, after all he is the cash cow and the one who puts asses in the seats? is it cause arum created him (in the terms of building his career) and probably thinks arum has enough power to destroy it if he steps out of line? why?
every pacquiao supporter is telling floyd to make it happen, that manny has already said he is willing to. what you guys seem to ignore is that bob arum is holding this fight back w/ ridiculous excuses like a plastic surgeon said manny's cut is too delicate it won't be able to properly heal until april. or that a 40,000 seat stadium needs to be build for this fight.
both manny and floyd are down to fight. they're fighters, that's what they do. but it's on manny's side that is holding this fight up, his promoter is the one that doesn't want this fight.
so why is it that manny is being quiet when arum talks? out of respect? does manny just care about getting the paychecks arum keeps making for him? or is he really not that interested in floyd because he knows there is a great chance of him losing?
just saw this article btw, not trying to bash, just thought i'd plug it in since i'm already making a post:
http://www.askmen.com/sports/fanatic_250/294_manny-pacquiao-is-he-a-puppet-in-boxing-politics.html
Can't you see? Pac is protecting his 42 wins with zero loss record. He was so scared of Mayweathers one punch power. No wonder he faked his retirement and vacations. He avoided Cotto and Margarito and many fighters not to mention Floyd did much better when he beat the hell out of Oscar, Hatton, Mosley and retired them.
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:rofl: :rofl: this is not about the 2 future hof'ers mayweather and guerrero going at it, it's about why pacquiao doesn't tell arum to cut the bs and get the fight done. the only thing happening right now is arum is making excuses (manny's cut and a new stadium not built) for not making the fight. all gbp is doing is tossing out possible names (guerrero, canelo, etc). nothing is official right now.
Did Pac said he want floyd? he even said it infront of the crowd after mosely fight... He do press release that his first options is Floyd one week after the Pac vs Marquez III ... at the latest, he release again press release that he will ask Arum that Floyd is the priority?
and what did floyd do about this fight? PAc, your next... oops! sorry, I lied... he rant infront of web cam with some racist remarks, do some vacations with no negotiations attached and do his press release infront some b1tches interviewed by floydhype? ow, its not interview, its another rant and this time someone holding camera and mic for him. lol!
Pacquiao fought a 40 year old blown up lightweight... who had a 0-1 losing record @ welterweight.
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lol! do guerreo ever fight above lightweight? now, did Pac ever fought a lightweight who have not fought at welterweight? try again new thread. I see your avatar trying to justify why Floyd will choose your guy. Ok, I admit, your not flomo. :banana:
Pacquiao fought a 40 year old blown up lightweight... who had a 0-1 losing record @ welterweight.
lol! do guerreo ever fight above lightweight? now, did Pac ever fought a lightweight who have not fought at welterweight? try again new thread. I see your avatar trying to justify why Floyd will choose your guy. Ok, I admit, your not flomo. :banana:
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:rofl: :rofl: this is not about the 2 future hof'ers mayweather and guerrero going at it, it's about why pacquiao doesn't tell arum to cut the bs and get the fight done. the only thing happening right now is arum is making excuses (manny's cut and a new stadium not built) for not making the fight. all gbp is doing is tossing out possible names (guerrero, canelo, etc). nothing is official right now.
:rofl: you think i'm a flomo? wow. and don't even be talking about a welterweight fighting a lightweight man!
lol! do guerreo ever fight above lightweight? now, did Pac ever fought a lightweight who have not fought at welterweight? try again new thread. I see your avatar trying to justify why Floyd will choose your guy. Ok, I admit, your not flomo. :banana:
flomos on the defensive thread again! lol! they know that their fighter is campaigning again in lightweight division! lol! ooops! welterweight. Expect more thread like this from flomos, blaming Pac to defend their BF choice of opponents! :bottle:
:rofl: you think i'm a flomo? wow. and don't even be talking about a welterweight fighting a lightweight man!
flomos on the defensive thread again! lol! they know that their fighter is campaigning again in lightweight division! lol! ooops! welterweight. Expect more thread like this from flomos, blaming Pac to defend their BF choice of opponents! :bottle:
And that ladies and gentlemen is how someone responds when they get owned and embarrassed in a public forum in front of thousands. :lol1: :lol1:
:haha: what? how was that being owned. it's true, it's in the past. just like manny saying he is afraid of getting blood drawn close to the fight.
fighthype, espn, and most likely maxboxing along with other sites have similar articles, this is just the first one i saw. google it, it's not only examiner.
and when was this article you're talking about released? got a link?
Arum had a comment within hours of the judge postponing floyds sentence and I read it here on this website
Boxingscene doesn't let you copy and paste so you'll have to read it yourself.
http://www.boxingscene.com/arum-comments-on-mayweather-ruling-possible-megafight--48204
:lol1: dude that's in the past
And that ladies and gentlemen is how someone responds when they get owned and embarrassed in a public forum in front of thousands. :lol1: :lol1:
You can't be serious about that quote. Examiner, really?
And Arum was saying that he was gonna bring up floyd to Pac when he visits him later this week. That sounds like hes saying floyd is a possible opponent.
fighthype, espn, and most likely maxboxing along with other sites have similar articles, this is just the first one i saw. google it, it's not only examiner.
and when was this article you're talking about released? got a link?
whether haymon picks up his phone or not, arum is the one out in public telling the media they're not looking at him as a possible opponent. do you understand that? i know manny wants the fight, but arum is saying they don't. forget what team mayweather and gbp are saying, look at what arum is saying:
http://www.examiner.com/boxing-in-boston/bob-arum-is-afraid-to-let-manny-pacquiao-fight-floyd-mayweather
You can't be serious about that quote. Examiner, really?
And Arum was saying that he was gonna bring up floyd to Pac when he visits him later this week. That sounds like hes saying floyd is a possible opponent.
Your kidding yourself.. Floyd and his team cant even say who the opponent for May 5th is or if they are even trying to negotiate a fight with Pac for May.. Instead they say the little fella and names like Guererro, Morales, and Canelo are possibilites..
If Floyd wanted Pac he would down right say IM GONNA MAKE THAT FIGHT WITH PAC IF HE ACCEPTS FOR MAY 5th. BUT HE HASNT.. Oh wait he didnt be he took it back.. hahha
Wait I thought it was Pacquiao? What happened to Pacquiao YOUR NEXT..
:lol1: dude that's in the past, just like manny complaining about drug tests or the wrong pair of socks. provide the latest news or you won't be taken seriously. floyd is not saying anything, but schaefer and de la hoya are saying arum doesn't want the fight. so is arum, he is saying that they're not looking at him as a possible opponent for manny's next fight. what does that mean? team pac isn't trying to make this fight. i won't provide links, just google it and you'll find a million different articles. you should already know this though...
:haha: idk, but the only known fact and thing that is ACTUALLY happening is arum saying "absolutely not. nope"
just check out de la hoya's twitter, he's saying team mayweather and gbp are open to negotiating.
https://twitter.com/#!/OscarDeLaHoya
(great avi btw)
Your kidding yourself.. Floyd and his team cant even say who the opponent for May 5th is or if they are even trying to negotiate a fight with Pac for May.. Instead they say the little fella and names like Guererro, Morales, and Canelo are possibilites..
If Floyd wanted Pac he would down right say IM GONNA MAKE THAT FIGHT WITH PAC IF HE ACCEPTS FOR MAY 5th. BUT HE HASNT.. Oh wait he didnt be he took it back.. hahha
Wait I thought it was Pacquiao? What happened to Pacquiao YOUR NEXT..
whether haymon picks up his phone or not, arum is the one out in public telling the media they're not looking at him as a possible opponent. do you understand that? i know manny wants the fight, but arum is saying they don't. forget what team mayweather and gbp are saying, look at what arum is saying:
http://www.examiner.com/boxing-in-boston/bob-arum-is-afraid-to-let-manny-pacquiao-fight-floyd-mayweather
good post
there pac fans need to understand Actions>words. I really don't care what manny says to the reporters. lets see if he forces Arum negotiate with mayweather.
Pac reluctant.. ? Youve got to be kidding..
Why cant Floyd Mayweather or anyone from his team just say WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO MAKE A FIGHT WITH PACQUIAO FOR MAY 5TH MGM GRAND? WHY THEY GOTTA SAY THE LITTLE FELLA.
:haha: idk, but the only known fact and thing that is ACTUALLY happening is arum saying "absolutely not. nope"
just check out de la hoya's twitter, he's saying team mayweather and gbp are open to negotiating.
https://twitter.com/#!/OscarDeLaHoya
(great avi btw)
Pac reluctant.. ? Youve got to be kidding..
Why cant Floyd Mayweather or anyone from his team just say WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO MAKE A FIGHT WITH PACQUIAO FOR MAY 5TH MGM GRAND? WHY THEY GOTTA SAY THE LITTLE FELLA.
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