Grade Roy Jones' resume

the more i read this, the more i can tell the white suits people hated roy jones because he had a brain...lol Roy was one of the best managers in the history of boxing. He drove HBO nuts...then they gave him a raise. Can't hate the player on that. He offered the date to both Nunn and Rochigianni, and both of them turned it down. Nunn didn't fight again for like two years. Not in 1997. The reporting at the time then was all that he refused to fight Nunn. One report I found had it over network issues: http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_action=doc&p_docid=0F51B4A334930E05&p_docnum=1 Roy Jones vacates title over contract PENSACOLA, Fla. - Roy Jones Jr. says keeping his WBC light heavyweight title is not worth breaking a television contract and vacated the 175-pound title Wednesday rather than agree to fight No. 1 contender Michael Nunn for $1.8 million. He has one fight remaining on a three-year contract with Home Box Office and its pay-per-view network, TVKO. However, Nunn's promoter, America Presents, won the purse bid for the proposed title fight and wanted to stage it Jan. 17 on a competing pay-per-view system, Request TV. One of these days, I'll dig up the why should I have had to fight a Michael Nunn who shows up interview he did later on. Interesting and one of those things I read that always stuck with me on how smart he was management wise. It's just one of those oddball things. As to Rocky, given what Roy probably offered, it was surely more profitable to stay in Germany and sue the WBC. Roy wasn't going to travel for it. Given that Rocky got a healthy settlement, that's proven true. jones vs. nunn would have been a horrible fight...honestly if jones did legitly duck him, in hindsight who cares...james toney trumped all of those dudes back then... Pretty much. That's kind of my point...it's hard to conclude he didn't, but of all the guys to duck (if that's the right word...manuevered around might be as fair; just didn't care to fight might be another) it ends up an oddity that history couldn't care less about.

I am sorry but Nunn post Liles and Little losses was a shell of himself and really far less of a challenge than guys like Merqui Sosa and Eric Lucas jones vs. nunn would have been a horrible fight...honestly if jones did legitly duck him, in hindsight who cares...james toney trumped all of those dudes back then...

I'm sorry but Nunn post Liles and Little losses was a shell of himself and really far less of a challenge than guys like Merqui Sosa and Eric Lucas.

I am sorry but Nunn post Liles and Little losses was a shell of himself and really far less of a challenge than guys like Merqui Sosa and Eric Lucas

He offered the date to both Nunn and Rochigianni, and both of them turned it down. Nunn didn't fight again for like two years.

Nunn rose briefly to the mandatory slot when Roy vacated to fight Douglas. Rochigianni won a debatable split over Nunn in Germany for the title, then Roy changed his mind. The WBC gave him back the belt, said it was all basically a typo and eventually lost a 30 or so million dollar lawsuit to Rocky because of it (later settled for less to keep the WBC solvent). Roy then met super mando Ricky Frazier when Nunn wouldn't fight Frazier first which was tied in with King, Sulaiman and WBC politics - Frazier was with King and Nunn wasn't anymore (and who wanted to see FRAZIER? Or Grant? or Telesco...get back to that). Nunn again rose to WBC #1 after he KO'd Guthrie in 1999. Jones allegedly offered the Telesco date to Nunn at a rate worth about 3% of the HBO license fee for the fight. Not surprising, it didn't happen. Pure conjecture...Nunn may have wanted to force a bid. Not sure. Wasn't writing then and fishing for old press online to try to be most accurate. The WBC offered Rocky a mando around the same time to make up for stealing his belt. He stuck with the lawyers. That never came off either. Nunn officially stayed in the slot until around March 2001 when Clinton Woods surpassed him after a fight between the two fell apart multiple times due to injuries etc. Nunn was pretty much done by then and arrested the following year. There have been stories that like he would do with Tarver and the IBF prior to Tarver-Harding I, Jones had requested in writing Nunn have to fight an eliminator to get to him. The WBC agreed. Nunn was inactive for a long stretch between 1999 and 2001 as the title shot carrot got bandied about. It was a long stick. Roy was very good at navigating the sanc bodies and getting what he wanted. Coupled with some of the things Roy has said in retrospect about Nunn, it's safe to argue there was something about that fight he didn't like. Fair enough. It's not a real mark on his ledger. However, as said, of all the charges made against Roy of ducking, many of them silly, Nunn's has more weight than most even without much public demand for the fight. To be fair, there wasn't much public demand for most of Roy's fights in his prime. That's why he fought in some of the odd places he did and survived on an HBO subsidy worth much more than any revenue he could actually draw. the more i read this, the more i can tell the white suits people hated roy jones because he had a brain...lol

Nunn rose briefly to the mandatory slot when Roy vacated to fight Douglas. Rochigianni won a debatable split over Nunn in Germany for the title, then Roy changed his mind. The WBC gave him back the belt, said it was all basically a typo and eventually lost a 30 or so million dollar lawsuit to Rocky because of it (later settled for less to keep the WBC solvent). Roy then met super mando Ricky Frazier when Nunn wouldn't fight Frazier first which was tied in with King, Sulaiman and WBC politics - Frazier was with King and Nunn wasn't anymore (and who wanted to see FRAZIER? Or Grant? or Telesco...get back to that). Nunn again rose to WBC #1 after he KO'd Guthrie in 1999. Jones allegedly offered the Telesco date to Nunn at a rate worth about 3% of the HBO license fee for the fight. Not surprising, it didn't happen. Pure conjecture...Nunn may have wanted to force a bid. Not sure. Wasn't writing then and fishing for old press online to try to be most accurate. The WBC offered Rocky a mando around the same time to make up for stealing his belt. He stuck with the lawyers. That never came off either. Nunn officially stayed in the slot until around March 2001 when Clinton Woods surpassed him after a fight between the two fell apart multiple times due to injuries etc. Nunn was pretty much done by then and arrested the following year. There have been stories that like he would do with Tarver and the IBF prior to Tarver-Harding I, Jones had requested in writing Nunn have to fight an eliminator to get to him. The WBC agreed. Nunn was inactive for a long stretch between 1999 and 2001 as the title shot carrot got bandied about. It was a long stick. Roy was very good at navigating the sanc bodies and getting what he wanted. Coupled with some of the things Roy has said in retrospect about Nunn, it's safe to argue there was something about that fight he didn't like. Fair enough. It's not a real mark on his ledger. However, as said, of all the charges made against Roy of ducking, many of them silly, Nunn's has more weight than most even without much public demand for the fight. To be fair, there wasn't much public demand for most of Roy's fights in his prime. That's why he fought in some of the odd places he did and survived on an HBO subsidy worth much more than any revenue he could actually draw.

Jones Jr is a legend....he fought who was there to fight no doubt...his resume..A- at least if not lil better...fact that he won a middleweight title and a Heavyweight title alone builds a gr8 resume

for the life of me, i don't know why all these foreign dudes think roy jones, when he was the top dog, had to kiss they a** and come to some foreign country to get a** raped by biased referrees and judges...now, all of a sudden, you got benn, eubank, collins, and all these other fools running around saying jones ducked them, but in the 90's and early 00's, when rj was superman flooring cats with bodyshots, when his name came up, they were doing the scooby doo...(word)....much respect to ricky hatton, who wanted to make the fight with mayweather when both were in their prime...he came to the top dog's soil, established his name, and got the fight....yeah he got check-hooked into retirement, but at least he didn't go out like benn, eubank, collins, etc., saying mayweather ducked him after the fact, because thats all he can hold onto...

Solid resume, good accomplishments. However it's his talent and H2H ability where he really shines.

Dariusz ducked Roy. Plain and simple. Roy was P4P #1. Mayweather don't need belts, Pacquiao don't need belts. JONES didn't need belts. You know it, I know it, everyone knows this. Stop making up fantasies to degrade Roy now that his ship has sailed. Well said man..these guys dont know the score.

When was Nunn ever Roy's mandatory? Honestly who the phuk wanted to see ROy fight Nunn after he took back to back losses to Liles and Little?

Roy said he wouldnt fight Darius in germany many times..so what he was willing to fight him in america but Darius didnt want to fight in america so who's ducking who? everybody says jones ducked him but why didnt dariusz travel to usa and fight the best fighter on the planet at the time? come on man Michalczewski WBA WBO IBF Ring Magazine Linear Lt Heavyweight Champion and the man at the time ...so why should of he traveled ? After Mcclellan Jones dint want do part of going and getting beat up abroad . Who held the belts? Darius :boxing::boxing:

Roy said he wouldnt fight Dariusz in germany many times..so what he was willing to fight him in america but dariusz didnt want to fight in america so who's ducking who? everybody says jones ducked him but why didnt dariusz travel to usa and fight the best fighter on the planet at the time? come on man Who held the belts?

Jones was never the Linear champ at 175 ...that was Dariusz not jones thats a fact... jones ducked Dariusz the linear champ at 175 and even went of the record on uk tv saying he wouldn't fight the Tiger in Germany for 3 million pounds sterling . What i am saying is there was some great match up and even better opponents at 168 and 175 that Jones faced . There was Nunn he ducked . 168 WBC CHAMP Nigel Benn beat Mclellan his mate yet jones never fought Benn,Collins was 168 WBO CHAMP that went out of his way to call out jones yet he dint want no part of the hard Irishman . When Dariusz Michalczewski was unbeaten and in his prime and the Linear 175 champ ..jones refused to make these matches when all the said named guys was the main guys in these weight classes he fought in. Roy said he wouldnt fight Dariusz in germany many times..so what he was willing to fight him in america but dariusz didnt want to fight in america so who's ducking who? everybody says jones ducked him but why didnt dariusz travel to usa and fight the best fighter on the planet at the time? come on man

Jones was never the Linear champ at 175 ...that was Dariusz not jones thats a fact... jones ducked Dariusz the linear champ at 175 and even went of the record on uk tv saying he wouldn't fight the Tiger in Germany for 3 million pounds sterling . What i am saying is there was some great match up and even better opponents at 168 and 175 that Jones faced . There was Nunn he ducked . 168 WBC CHAMP Nigel Benn beat Mclellan his mate yet jones never fought Benn,Collins was 168 WBO CHAMP that went out of his way to call out jones yet he dint want no part of the hard Irishman . When Dariusz Michalczewski was unbeaten and in his prime and the Linear 175 champ ..jones refused to make these matches when all the said named guys was the main guys in these weight classes he fought in. Nunn was just a weird case. He was the mando twice for close to three years total. Roy way underbid him once (I believe Nunn tried waiting for a purse bid which was smart) and I read an interview once where he said, paraphrasing, that Nunn would get up for him, hand't gotten up much for years, and why should Roy have to be the only one to face a good Nunn. Of all the ducks Roy is accused of, mostly unfairly, Nunn is probably the one with the most substance and one of the least consequential. Odd.

Dariusz Collins and Benn were viable opponents and those fights never happened, you can keep pretending that was all Roy's fault I don't care. Give Roy the credit he deserves for beating Gonzalez, Johnson and Malinga. Also Eubank, McClellan and Nunn were NEVER realistic opponents for Roy stop pretending they were

Jones was never the Linear champ at 175 ...that was Dariusz not jones thats a fact... jones ducked Dariusz the linear champ at 175 and even went of the record on uk tv saying he wouldn't fight the Tiger in Germany for 3 million pounds sterling . What i am saying is there was some great match up and even better opponents at 168 and 175 that Jones faced . There was Nunn he ducked . 168 WBC CHAMP Nigel Benn beat Mclellan his mate yet jones never fought Benn,Collins was 168 WBO CHAMP that went out of his way to call out jones yet he dint want no part of the hard Irishman . When Dariusz Michalczewski was unbeaten and in his prime and the Linear 175 champ ..jones refused to make these matches when all the said named guys was the main guys in these weight classes he fought in.

I gave Jone a B- because as much as i love his style his list of opposition that he ducked is stellar to say the least . He ducked . Michalczewski WBA WBO IBF Ring Magazine Linear Lt Heavyweight Champion. Graciano Rochigiani WBC Lt Heavyweight Champion Michael Nunn Gerald McClellan Nigel Benn Chris Eubank Steve Collins Michalczewski should never be same sentence as Jones yet it was Dariusz Michalczewski who was the actually Linear and Ring Magazine Champion from 1997-2003. All those belts Jones at Lt Heavy were paper belts that were stripped from Rochigiani and Michalczewsk. Fact is Jones was never the true linear champion in any weight class because he ducked so many . What a dumbazz post When was Roy supposed to fight Eubank Nunn or McClellan? By the time Roy was established those guys were past their prime. LOL and you as you bytch about him "ducking" Benn Collins and Dariusz you are probable the idiot yelling the loudest calling Julio Cesar Gonzalez(beat Dariusz), Reggie Johnson(beat Collins) and Thulani Malinga(beat Benn) bums.

I gave Jone a B- because as much as i love his style his list of opposition that he ducked is stellar to say the least . He ducked . Michalczewski WBA WBO IBF Ring Magazine Linear Lt Heavyweight Champion. Graciano Rochigiani WBC Lt Heavyweight Champion Michael Nunn Gerald McClellan Nigel Benn Chris Eubank Steve Collins Michalczewski should never be same sentence as Jones yet it was Dariusz Michalczewski who was the actually Linear and Ring Magazine Champion from 1997-2003. All those belts Jones at Lt Heavy were paper belts that were stripped from Rochigiani and Michalczewsk. Fact is Jones was never the true linear champion in any weight class because he ducked so many .