Why Cotto and Mosley arent worthy of the Hall of Fame!!

its really simple actually. facts for both: Cotto: -only real name win against mosley in a decision that couldve gone etither way -in his prime couldnt ko malignaggi, a C level fighter who he shouldve steamrolled through - in his prime got rocked and staggered by a feather fisted malignaggi who he souldve steamrolled through -took a knee in a fight he was winning against marg which isnt a world class action to take. couldnt go 12 rounds which isnt world class. -got the crap kicked out of him by a smaller man (pacman). a good big man should ALWAYS beat a good small man, so that showed what cotto was. -won a paper 154 lb title against a one legged cripple (foreman) -beat up a faded fighter from the 90s (mayorga) -got touched up by a blind handicapped fighter (marg) and got a shameful technical win that will always have doubt and contreversy due to referee preventing marg, who was good to go, from possibly wearing down and tkoing cotto late and pacquaio assisting by already predamaging margs eye. dont say that could not have happened, remember this is boxing. -Ducked Martinez in a fight that wouldve given him a huge marquee name Mosley: -only name wins were against DLH, in which we found that he was on roids due to his own testimony, therefore those wins dont count -beat up on the real margarito, a shellshocked fighter without wraps who as we now know, is not that good of a fighter to begin with, so thats nothing to be proud of - got beat up by vernon forest twice -got beat up by winky wright twice -origianlly ducked mayweather when mayweather was ready to do it in his prime to go take care of a "toothache" -gassed out and was completely outclassed by mayweather -had a draw against sergio mora in a horrible showing -didnt fight and wanted to quit against pacman -horrible performances in the recent biggest two fights of his career (mayweather, pacman) -is recently now begging taking fights he has no chance of winning to take a beating for paydays -we really dont know when he started and when he was done with the roids so all his wins are asteriks, that pretty much sums it up

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Its the hall of fame, not macarthur grant of boxing or some sh*t. Under that kind uberscrutiny/ticy tacing rhe hall would have about ten guys. Cotto absolutley deserves it. kicked everybodys ass, only lost to Pac and a VERY questionable Margarito. I might not vote for Mosley only because of the steroid issue but otherwise he has the resume.

14y ago

GoogleMe

LOL Mosley definetely deserving to go into the HOF. Cotto isn't.

14y ago

The_Surgeon

cotto cant beat any A level fighters at this point We will see.... If he gets the Pac fight next and at anything above 150lb i bet u 500million pts he wins? EDIT: Just noticed u dont have much points yet, but u get the picture im confident Miguel still has enough to pull out some great victorys

14y ago

percypercy

mosley knowingly took steroids.. thats all that needs to be said absolutely agree. on top of that shane mosley never beat an A level fighter as the DLH wins do not count. the only fight where he is tested properly he looked like dog S&*t.

14y ago

percypercy

cotto cant beat any A level fighters at this point

14y ago

tito_bandito

Lol why would cotto be HOF material? His best win was against a past prime Mosley that kinda troubled him...and he's beaten mediocre competition and that was at 140. He clearly lost to Clottey and low blowed a washed up Judah for a gift stoppage. Saul Alvarez's resume is almost similar to Cotto's at 154 lol

14y ago

percypercy

cottos not worthy of getting in until he beats an A level fighter (see above). even with tommy hearns he got his a%$ kicked by hagler and leonard but at least he got duran on his resume. hell even cottos"win" against margarito is tarnished because of the circumstances, its like if a guy beats the s*&&t out of another guy, busts him makes him quit and then later on down the road they fight again and in the middle of the fight someone steps in and prevents the fight from going to the end even though they can both physically keep going. cotto didnt redeem F#$$ all. margarito will always have that he made cotto quit and cotto couldnt even beat him without an assist. even if i was p.h rican i would say that. mosley cheated. we can never be 100% sure any of his wins were due to his natural ability. the only fight where we know for sure he was natural was the mayweather fight with the OSDT and we all know how that turned out. mosley is not worthy and is not capable of making himself worthy at this point. ASTERIK beside his name

14y ago

PRp4p757

out of this current crop of "stars" who deserve to get into the HOF -Mayweather -Hopkins -Marquez -Klitchsko Brothers -Ward (yeah i said it. hes beating and will continue to beat all the top guys in dominating though boring fashion, snuffing them out) -Pacquaio (if he can beat marquez without a "helping hand" from the judges, takes olympic style drug testing to show what he really is, and beats some quality, unruined A level fighters without catchweights in his favor (did anyone say Martinez at 154? pacquaio won a (paper) title there against an unranked marg didnt he? so why cant he fight there?)) I can agree with that list except for Ward. I like him but we should not even be talking about him yet. With that being said every fighter on that list could be picked apart and discredited with biased hate. Your opinion is not facts and neither is mine.

14y ago

percypercy

pryor beat arguello who was an A level fighter 2x in dominating fashion therefore he belongs in HOF. Solid wins against A level fighters of your era would qualify anyone cotto has to beat either martinez, mayweather or pacquaio who are the A level fighters within reach of his weight class and he cant beat any of them.

14y ago

etlux

the hate is strong in this thread. http://www.vamortgagecenter.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/sidious.jpg

14y ago

PRp4p757

for those that want to bring up moleys dominance as a lightweight...u do realize that he was more likely than not doping during that time as well RIGHT? ??? the story that he was benching around 400 pounds during that time is that normal? no it isnt. his entire careers is one big asterik because as already stated we dont know he started roids, we dont know when (or if) he stopped with the roids. Damn man have you ever even been in a gym before. If you believe a 150 pound Mosley was benching 400+ then I guess you waited up for Santa too. Don't believe everything you hear kid. P.S. I'm still waiting for your reply.

14y ago

visionary247

So neither Cotto nor Mosley belong in a club that has Barry McGuigan and Sylvester Stallone as members? OK, now that REALLY makes sense doesn't it?

14y ago

percypercy

Honestly I have never seen someone quote themselves before on the same page... narcissist much... you are discrediting all of Cottos win and highlighting his losses... i cant think of one fighter who cant be analyzed and picked apart by some biased hater... i just gotta ask though as far as the current crop of superstar fighters out there who do you think deserves to be in the HOF... don't worry..I'll wait(Katt Williams voice) out of this current crop of "stars" who deserve to get into the HOF -Mayweather -Hopkins -Marquez -Klitchsko Brothers -Ward (yeah i said it. hes beating and will continue to beat all the top guys in dominating though boring fashion, snuffing them out) -Pacquaio (if he can beat marquez without a "helping hand" from the judges, takes olympic style drug testing to show what he really is, and beats some quality, unruined A level fighters without catchweights in his favor (did anyone say Martinez at 154? pacquaio won a (paper) title there against an unranked marg didnt he? so why cant he fight there?))

14y ago

PRp4p757

Neither are worthy of HOF. Cotto is overrated and was lucky to not have fought Mexico's Juan "El Pollo" Valenzuela in 2004 (Pac-JMM undercard) cause Valenzuela had to pull out due to medical suspension. Valenzuela wouldve exposed and brutally KO Cotto in 2003. Mosley is steroid cheater that has used EPO for the last 8-10 years. Mosley was "juiced up" with EPO, HGH, Steroid when he fought Fernando Vargas, Antonio Margarito, DelaHoya and against many others. but when Floyd made Mosley get tested for EPO and other PEDs, Mosley was NOTHING. Mosley is a cheater that shouldve been banned from boxing years ago. http://img1-cdn.newser.com/square-image/23934-20110401015106/mosley-knew-he-was-doping-balco-chief.jpeg http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-uACmfbsA56g/TnlXpN-mBfI/AAAAAAAABEw/vHh-ryKnW2A/s400/Erythropoietin+%2528EPO%2529++and+EPO+Test.jpg Man Valenzuela is a bum who never fought above the cab driver level and still had 6 losses. He would brutalize Cotto? Please explain. I like Mosley but I cant condone steroids so he is kinda SOL.

14y ago

percypercy

14y ago

oc9979

14y ago

PRp4p757

anybody who really cared about boxing object to these kinds of frauds getting in the HOF because it cheapens the entire institution. if I were a legitmate HOFer (Hagler, Leonard, Duran,Steward,Pryor,) I would actively speak out against frauds getting in because it cheapens the exclucsive organization that im apart of. Feasting on ( and in some cases, even struggling with) B and C level fighters, doping, and getting your #$%^ kicked by A level fighters DOES NOT legitamize you for the HOF!!!! this means Mosley, Cotto, Gatti too since someone brought his name up !! Honestly I have never seen someone quote themselves before on the same page... narcissist much... you are discrediting all of Cottos win and highlighting his losses... i cant think of one fighter who cant be analyzed and picked apart by some biased hater... i just gotta ask though as far as the current crop of superstar fighters out there who do you think deserves to be in the HOF... don't worry..I'll wait(Katt Williams voice)

14y ago

SCtrojansbaby

Mosley is a surefire Hall of Famer on the strength of his domination at lightweight then wins vs DLH Cotto shouldn't even sniff the Hall of Fame

14y ago

gauze

anybody who really cared about boxing object to these kinds of frauds getting in the HOF because it cheapens the entire institution. if I were a legitmate HOFer (Hagler, Leonard, Duran,Steward,Pryor,) I would actively speak out against frauds getting in because it cheapens the exclucsive organization that im apart of. Feasting on ( and in some cases, even struggling with) B and C level fighters, doping, and getting your #$%^ kicked by A level fighters DOES NOT legitamize you for the HOF!!!! this means Mosley, Cotto, Gatti too since someone brought his name up !! pryor??? who did he beat besides an alexis arguello who probably didnt belong at 140 and an old antonio cervantes who was like 100 fights into his career?

14y ago

percypercy

everything u said bout cotto is true. he doesnt have any dominating wins over A level competition that would showcase his so called greatness..... i dont give a s*#t about his KOs over quintana or zab judah get real i clearly said in the thread about what marg would need to do to get in the hof was for discussion even though he clearly has no way of getting in..that was just to generate conversation and earlier in this thread i talked about how the real margarito was never a good fighter to begin with as far as mosley having a self confessed doper with a big asterik all over his record in the hall of fame wouldnt be a good look at all for them. if they wanna honor a doper guy who couldnt even beat a C level sergio mora thats up to them lol anybody who really cared about boxing object to these kinds of frauds getting in the HOF because it cheapens the entire institution. if I were a legitmate HOFer (Hagler, Leonard, Duran,Steward,Pryor,) I would actively speak out against frauds getting in because it cheapens the exclucsive organization that im apart of. Feasting on ( and in some cases, even struggling with) B and C level fighters, doping, and getting your #$%^ kicked by A level fighters DOES NOT legitamize you for the HOF!!!! this means Mosley, Cotto, Gatti too since someone brought his name up !!

14y ago