Do you agree that Chavez Jr has ducked Martinez?

Pirog is an unproven fringe contender with a gifted title in a prospect fight, while Chavez is a huge payday and a chance to regain the belt that was unrightfully taken from him. wasn't martinez's wbo belt unrightfully taken from him by pirog? so why doesn't he fight him to get it back? dzinziruk, barker, and macklin don't have it. pirog does. dzinziruk, barker, and macklin aren't huge paydays either so why is he fighting them instead of pirog. they have nothing martinez wants(but easy money) while pirog actually has something martinez wants but he's too scared to get it back!

Yeah hbo likes world class fighters like barker and dznriuk for martinez. Martinez can always fight pirog in russia,Like hes willing to fight chavez jr in mexico. They both were undefeated and had more established records than Pirog does. 23-0 and 37-0 look better than 19-0 or whatever Pirog is.

i see were gonna have a bet when chavez and canelo fight As long as no mannyweight is involved we'll have a bet bro!! :drillserg

What should one think of Martinez for wanting to fight JCC Jr so bad while ignoring guys like Pirog? Pirog is an unproven fringe contender with a gifted title in a prospect fight, while Chavez is a huge payday and a chance to regain the belt that was unrightfully taken from him.

This fight is not happening any time soon Bob Arum is going to keep Sergio away from Chavez Jr tell someone else beats him Bob Arum still pissed that Sergio beatdown Pavlik.

Personally I believe that Canelo is more protected & Chavez jr is actually a better fighter than him. But yes, Chavez wants no part of Martinez, just like Martinez cares nothing about any other 160lb champ. If he's not going to fight any of them. Return to 154. I was once high on Martinez, but it's wearing off, he is complaining & taking easy fights just like Floyd & Pacman. The only difference is he's the only 1 dropping down the pfp list while Floyd sucker punches his way to remaining pfp#2 & Pacman is living off a gift win over the smaller, weaker, slower, but more skilled Marquez. i see were gonna have a bet when chavez and canelo fight

What should one think of Martinez for wanting to fight JCC Jr so bad while ignoring guys like Pirog? big&easy http://www.mobileapptesting.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Dollar-Sign.jpg

The so called fearless mexican warrior is def ducking maravilla. That's a fact..Regardless if he ha no amateur career he is still a champ(Gift decision) and should act like one. What bout your Champ Cotto?? He has been hoding his championship at 154 for awhile now.When is he going to fight a legit contender at that weight??Anybody.. like Wolak, Rodriguez, Angulo, Lara, Williams... Hell I would give him credit if he fought y0our other boy Cintron!!! Betterthan watching him fight Mayorga and an injured Margarito.. What Y:cool2:ou think PAPI????

People get too caught up on paper titles. The fact is that Martinez is the real champ, the lineal champ of the division. Not JCC Jr.

The queston is why Martinez has not fought Pirog or Sturn?? But to tell you the truth Chavez jr. has been protected, but havent all cashcows?? De La Hoya fought a bunch of smaller and older fighters in his career. Paquiao has been fighting washed up and old fighters at catch weights, Cotto has not fought an elite fighter since Pacquio almost killed him.. Chavz jr. gets a lot of crap but he is getting better ad will surprise a lot of people soon.. Kid didnt have an amateur career by the way... every good fighter has easy fights to begin with. If not they would be destroyed before their careers even began. DLH fought the best in his division in the late 90's and early 2000's.

The so called fearless mexican warrior is def ducking maravilla. That's a fact..Regardless if he ha no amateur career he is still a champ(Gift decision) and should act like one.

I think chavez jr genuinely wants to fight martinez, but probably some of the people around him are not so willing to put him in with martinez so soon. However, i think if chavez jr beats rubio convincingly (UD or even impressive stoppage) then we will most likely see chavez jr vs martinez by later next year.

Chavez won't get past Rubio. He's avoiding one beast in Martinez and puts himself into the path of a much hungrier one.

no one is ducking anyone, it's all about their promoters holding them back. arum sees big risk/little reward in martinez, as dibella sees the same in pirog. arum is trying to make chavez a bigger name than he already is, being the best in the division is obviously not his goal with chavez. dibella sees pirog as a good fighter but with no real reward. if martinez/pirog happened, what would martinez get out of it by beating him? he'd have the same hbo paycheck and the same no. 3 p4p ranking and no. 1 MW ranking he has right now. he obviously is wasting his time fighting barker and now macklin but there really isn't any big money in his division to begin with, aside from a chavez fight. he should try and move down or challenge some of the bigger names at 154. i think guys like angulo, kirkland, alvarez, and lara have no problem making 155-158.

So you are ok with Chavez being allowed take easy fights??? Because if you are saying that that, and if you put it that way, that makes it look even worse on Chavez...who ducks a smaller guy that they can beat and become No.3 P4P in the mist of it?? One guy is an OK fighter at best. The other guy is an elite P4P level fighter and the best fighter in that division. So you're OK with the elite P4P level fighter, best guy in the division taking on easy fights? Because, that's what Martinez-JCC Jr is, an easy fight. JCC jr-Rubio is not an easy fight. So to answer your question, looking at these two fights. I'm OK with the latter. Which one are you OK with?

How hard is it to understand that this kid never had and amature carrier this kid is just fighting on pure talent alone ......He didnt train hard acouple of fights ago but now that freddie has him hes a more focus and condition boxer and also is learning how to boxes I meen hes a working progress is that hard to understand ....i guess so cause people just want him to jump in there with the big boys without being ready I meen did u guys see what happen to fernando vargas carrier? I meen come on guys this kid is gonna be the future of boxing hes already popular hes working very hard to stay in shape hes learning to do diffrent things in the ring not just what he learned looking at his father train sines he was just a kid.... I truelly think chavez jr has the tool to beat martinez I think he should fight the likes of manfredo,rubio,strum,then take fight with maravilla then we will know and everyone will see how good this kid junior really is....thank you

I think that deep down Chavez does not want to fight Martinez but on the outside he makes it seem like he is willing. He presents it that way knowing Arum is not going to let that fight happen. All in all, YES I think Chavez is ducking Martinez. And I believe that Martinez whoops Chavez like nobody's business.

Chavez should get in there and SHOW Martinez how a TRUE Mexican does it, Chavez is the son of a Mexican HOFamer. I agree with Martinez, he has no heart that all the current and Mexicans of the past had, even Margarito with Plaster has more.

Yeah hbo likes world class fighters like barker and dznriuk for martinez. Martinez can always fight pirog in russia,Like hes willing to fight chavez jr in mexico. HBO would air Martinez vs Chavez from Mexico. It would not air Martinez vs Pirog from Russia.

Because Sturm is ducking Martinez. They tried making the fight multiple times. Can't duck someone HBO won't approve. http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=528759 Yeah hbo likes world class fighters like barker and dznriuk for martinez. Martinez can always fight pirog in russia,Like hes willing to fight chavez jr in mexico.